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Toyota Camry Real World MPG

Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,018
This topic is for Camry owners to post their actual MPG. Please be sure to include if it's automatic/manual, 2.4/4cyl, 3.0/6cyl, or 3.33/6cyl.

"Real World" Fuel Economy vs. EPA Estimates

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  • andrelaplumeandrelaplume Posts: 934
    2002 4Cyl automatic Camry, 30K miles, all required service has been performed by Toyota. Pure City (this means average speeds of 25 - 40 mph with many stops over a 10 mile or so trip to work with me alone in the car and no a/c on), I get 17.5mpg. I used to get better!

    Pure Highway, 55 -65 mph w/air on, wife and kids, 26 mph.

    ** I used to get 19mpg or so city, it seems that since my 30k service it has degraded (or my driving habits have).

    ***The lower the fuel level before I fill up the worse the mileage....this never made sense to me because you are dividing miles by gallons...I got into a routine of filling up at or just below a quarter tank when I switched jobs, coincidently (?) around the time I had my 30K service done as well. I consistently got/get 17.5 mpg. Interestingly, at a little under 1/2 half tank I filled up yesterday and it came out to 20 mpg!

    If someone can explain a mechanical reason why filling up before the tank gets to less than 1/4 full yields better mileage, I'd love to hear it!
  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,756
    3.3 liter. Only one highway tank so far which was 27.5 mpg. That was at only 1000 miles on the odo and included 40 min of stop & go so I expect better. Around town 19-20 so far.

    I think one needs about 3 consecutive tanks of highway driving to get a true mileage number. Will post again when I have that data.
  • westsidewestside Posts: 7
    I purchased the car with 28k miles on it, and have put 2k on it. Over 1600 miles of measurement the average mpg was 19.5. The pure highway mpg was about 34, pure city about 14. I drive about 75% city miles, many short trips.

    Overall this car is very good: no mechanical failures, roomy, loaded with features, smooth, fairly quiet, and adequately powerful.
  • leob1leob1 Posts: 153
    I drive the car about 19 miles each way to and from work. About 6 miles of it is city driving. I park in a large parking garage about 2-4 stories underground. The frwy part does include some bumper to bumper traffic congestion enroute to work, but not the entire way.

    I have measured 30 mpg on the first 2 tanks with no occupants and some ac and defroster use on reg unleaded. Those tanks were with an odometer reading below 1000 miles during breakin. I do not top off my tank. A few times I drove at a higher rate on the way home of course.

    My guess is 34-35 mpg in strictly hwy driving, similar to the EPA estimate. Oh, on one tank I refueled after the fuel light had just come on and it took about 15.5 gallons to fill it back up. I am very happy with this car.
  • lunarmistlunarmist Posts: 41
    I've been averaging about 33 mpg. That's approximately 85 % highway and 15% city. Also very happy with the fuel economy. It has 4000 miles.
  • ezshift5ezshift5 West coastPosts: 854
    ..new 5/2000: 76k odo: 25-28 town; 30-33 HWY....

    ..would do it again (but V-6 Toyota's require an AT)

    .....guess I'm stuck in a time warp........... :confuse: best, ez......
  • motownusamotownusa Posts: 836
    I commute about 15 miles each way to and from work which involves about 65/35 highway/city driving. City average is typically between 20 to 23 mpg depending on traffic situation. On the highway I get anywhere from 27 to 30 mpg, again depending on traffic, if the AC is on or not etc. EPA states 21/29 so I am quite pleased with the numbers.
  • geezer55geezer55 Posts: 1
    2002 automatic/2.4/4cyl, 31,000 miles; Castrol SynthBlend 5W30 (change myself), upper range tire inflation pressure. I have generally gotten roughly 24-26 city 32-34 highway driving more-or-less like a maniac - like everyone else. For this most recent business trip, I decided to drive just under the speed limit (65 in KY and OH) to see what would happen (No AC, mid-range 89 octane gas): 46.3 going, 44.1 return! The second number is probably closer to being accurate as the tank was probably a bit over-filled initially. I tried to be careful to get a comparable refill on the return trip.

    It's well-known that gas engines operate most efficiently in the 30-50 MPH range (probably maxed in the low 40's just as it slips into overdrive) and that gas consumption starts to increase markedly at higher speeds. Another factor which might affect this would be frequent lane and speed changes for passing - I was in the right lane at a constant speed for almost the entire trip (did pass a few other vehicles, though). Took 30 minutes longer to get to my destination. I don't expect anyone else to do this - but if more people did, what might happen to our fuel import/trade imbalance problems?

    Regardless, I don't think I'll be needing that Prius after all...
  • andrelaplumeandrelaplume Posts: 934
    your right I don't!
  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,756
    The link doesn't work.
  • westsidewestside Posts: 7
    The link may have expired, here is an alternative.
  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,756
    That one works. The Toyota V6 doesn't fare too well compared to the competition. I'm really surprised the Nissan V6 got better mileage.
  • hank2hank2 Posts: 75
    I have a 2004 4Cyl SE Auto with about 15K mi. I drive about 300 miles per week, roughly 30 miles each way at ~ 65 MPH on cruise control. I was getting about 24 MPG when I bought the car new last year, and it has been inching upward to the current 30 MPG.

    Based on other postings, I may be able to get 33 - 35 MPG by next year .... However, I don't think I'll get 40 MPG :-)

    I have an unproven hypothesis that starting the car has a noticeable effect on mileage. It is not logical or provable. In other words, if I drive 15 miles, pick up some coffee, then drive the other 15 miles ... and I do this everyday. I feel like I get hit for 2 MPG, which seems like a lot ... but, again I can't prove it and don't intend to try to reproduce it. Otherwise, I'm sticking with 30 MPG.

    - hank2
  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,756
    "I have an unproven hypothesis that starting the car has a noticeable effect on mileage."

    You'll get your best mileage in steady state cruising. It's not the starting per se, it's the slowing down, stopping, speeding up again in the middle of your 30 mile trip that will reduce your mileage vs the 30 mile straight shot. Probably not 2 mpg though.
  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,756
    My son just returned from a 900 mile round trip which was mostly highway driving. I was a little disappointed that the car only averaged 26 mpg. I suspect he drives around 75 mph if traffic permits.

    Overall mileage for 3200 miles is now at 23.2. Best guess is that's about 40% highway/60% city.
  • chevymalibuchevymalibu Posts: 129
    I drove my 2004 exl 4 cyl accord on all highway for about 600 miles and got 40-41MPG with two occupants and luggage. Once at my destination, I drove a little city and then back highway home. Overall got 36MPG which is awesome. The tach was slightly higher than the camry 2005 LE I test drove. I really believe the camry will beat the accord (by 5% maybe) in overall mileage. I drove 70-80mph for the highway with the AC on. That reason is why I'm going to buy a LE camry in the next day or two.
  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,756
    Please tell me you're not going to trade a 2004 Accord for a 2005 Camry just because you think you're going to get better the 36 mpg ;)
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    as in "I really believe" the camry will beat the accord.

    I have a new 2005 4-cylinder, and the best I've done so far on the highway is 31 mpg. And I don't drive above 70.
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    ...that I have a 2005 Camry 4-cylinder, if that wasn't clear from the last post. My 2004 Camry, with one fewer gear in the tranny, gave better mileage on the highway -- 35 to 38 mpg. As I noted before, I really need to take the 2005 on a long uninterrupted interstate-only trip to see what it can do. But so far, I've been disappointed at 4000+ miles.
  • fredvhfredvh Posts: 853
    What model year are these various vehicles in the "Consumer Reports" story?
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    They will not necessarily be 2005 models, but correspond to the last time CR tested the cars. But mileage results still should be similar (if not identical) to 2005 models, in cases where the car is still produced.
  • tradscotttradscott Posts: 108
    The reason that cars get better gas mileage at lower speeds is not attritable to the engine. It is much more dependant on the transmission and the outside air. The amount of energy that the engine produces which is used to offset the wind resistance grows with the square of the car's velocity.

    Basically, your energy losses to wind resistance will be twice as much at 80mph than it is at 40mph. A similar thing happens to the losses in the driveline and tires. The losses in the engine will be the same at the two speeds assuming that the RPMs are the same. This will depend on the gearing of the transmission.

    Generally a car will get its best gas mileage while going slow (low RPMs) in its tallest gear. As you speed up, you waste more energy bucking the wind and moving the fluids in the car around faster.

    Now, you could design a car with super tall gears so that you're going 80MPH at low RPMs, but this wouldn't solve the problem since at higher speeds you're wasting almost all of the energy produced by the engine pushing the outside air. The most effective way to improve your mileage at higher speeds is to improve the aerodynamics of the vehicle.
  • maddgoomaddgoo Posts: 7
    Just traded off a 2003 Camry XLE 4cyl, 2.4, 4AT with 24K miles. Average mileage overall for mixed freeway and city driving was normally between 29 and 30 mpg over the life of the car a "AS INDICATED BY THE COMPUTER MILEAGE READOUT" on the dash. Other than being a rattle trap :cry: it was a decent car. Just purchased a new 05 Camry XLE V6, so that is likely to drop a touch with the larger 3.0 engine. hope it doesn't rattle as much as the old one or the next purchase will be a Honda or Nissan.
  • phd86phd86 Posts: 110
    mpg-% freeway (by miles driven, not time, rounded to 5%)
    20-50, 25-70, 23-70, 25-80, 26-85, 33-90, 26-75, 22-70, 25-80, 24-80, 22-50, 27-75, 22-60, 22-80, 24-50, 25-80, 24-50, 21-75, 25-60, 17-05, 17-05, 18-20, 21-20, 21-60, 27-80

    I will keep you all posted after I bring it back to the dealer (for the second time) and update you as to what if anything was done and if it was effective.

    Out.

    PhD86
  • Straight highway I get 36MPG and a combination of city and highway I usually get 26MPG. On one trip I went 640 miles on a tank. The needle was below the E line. Just drive safely and don't race everywhere and you'll notice an instant jump in your MPG.
  • haefrhaefr Posts: 600
    So true! It amazes me the number of people bellyaching about the high price of gas, but fail to exercise anything approaching common sense with their driving habits. I stay in the far right line on freeways cruising at 70 mph and still get flipped off by other drivers who have two or three additional lanes to roar around on. (yeah - southern California...)
  • leob1leob1 Posts: 153
    Mostly city driving mixed with a little bit of HWY. I get 26-27mpg with the 5 sp...light foot too.

    An article I just read said to fill up early in the morning or late at night. Interesting, they say the fuel is "denser" and you actually get more for your money getting it in colder temps. The pumps measure by volume, not weight. Every little tip matters as high as the prices are going!
  • haefrhaefr Posts: 600
    "An article I just read said to fill up early in the morning or late at night."

    Nothing new - I heard that in the mid-fifties in grammar school. While true, it's also true that as the day wears on and wamrs up, that denser gasoline that fit so well in the tank when cold, expands and has to go somewhere. (Not a problem is you're on a long drive and have a chance to use the additional gas before it expands, but if you just drive to work and park in the sunlight on a warm day...) Used to be, it just vented as vapor out the gas cap, but since that's no longer an option, courtesy of environmental concerns, it is vented to the charcoal canister. If overpressurized, the result is poor engine starting and poor drivability - sometimes requiring replacement of pricey emissions control components if they're over-saturated with raw gas. Sometimes the harder you try for efficiency, the behinder you get. ;)
  • My first month of 90 % city driving. First tank 26 mpg. Second tank 23 mpg. So far so good. :)
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