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My mileage is not being measured while the car awaits repair from the infamous transmission "snap ring" issue.
26.52 average mpg for 1,100 miles of 60% city driving.
The tanks averaged from 26.14 - 26.82 mpg which probably reflects how full the different fillups were.
The car MPG indicator has averaged 27.4 mpg which is farther off from actual of my last 3 cars.
My A/C just started running more about 1/2 way thru the last tank.
I get 21-22 mpg indicated (which probably means 1 mpg less actual) after filling for stop and go city driving until I drive on the highway.
Haven't got a 100% highway reading yet.
Since the check engine light isn't on - "there is nothing wrong with the car". When I talked to the dealer, they gave me the number for customer service. I was told that this was the second call today for the same issue, then was passed on to 'report' the issue. Unless enough people say something, they won't even look into it to see if there is a problem, and with how 'stupid' everybody treats you, you don't want to push the issue. When asked if I always pushed the trip reset when I re-filled the tank, I looked at the guy and said, "I'm not an idiot".
How can you advertise a number you know to be inaccurate and say that the car gets great gas mileage for the type of car.....
Even so, the EPA takes 22% off the highway mpg test value to "adjust" for more realistic conditions -- this has been done since the 1985 model year, and this is what gets posted on the window sticker. The adjustment for the city mpg is 10%.
As I reported before, my '04 Camry LE 4-cyl. 4A gets about 23 mpg in the city (small town in our case) and about 35-38 mpg on the highway (going no faster than 65-70 mph posted speeds in our area). I got 30+ mpg overall on our 3600-mile Los Angeles to central VA road trip this past December, with 3 people and a full load of cargo, driving mostly on 2-lane roads, up to a legal 75 mph on western interstates.
My '05 Camry XLE 4-cyl. 5A doesn't do as well - about 21 mpg in town and 32 mpg on trips.
What grade of gas do you use? Do you think the CA rules for cars make cars sold in CA more efficient than those sold other places?
Taking into account that he also comments on a bunch of other cars, he must either have the big garage or is a paper tiger who gets his information from EPA hand-outs.
If you drive as if you are steering a luxobarge, 87 is just fine, for better gear shifts higher grade delivers - I hate that auto transmission hiccup when it downshifts and loses all the power in the middle of the sharp turn. :P
Short trips are killers for city mpg -- at 5 miles, your engine won't even be fully warmed up in the winter. Add in extensive idling at traffic lights and your mileage will go down even more. I don't have an explanation for your poor highway mileage though.
As ray_h1 said, CA cars would probably be a little less fuel efficient.
So are you saying your downshift hesitation is reduced when running premium instead of regular?
You must not have read the guy's post on the entry level sports sedan board who claims to get well in excess of 30 mpg in his 3 series BMW at 90 mph. I'm a little skeptical
Maybe it was 36 or even 38?
Fantastic!!!!!
I am not driving for best fuel consumption. I think with some effort I could easily get 30 mpg.
...the EPA Highway rating (the one on the right, hombre)...
..on my last three cars(Supra Turbo/Solara V6 5M/AV6 6M)..
.has been exceeded by using the Smith System of Space Cushion Driving plus some home grown mods.......use your favorite search engine: check it out/save fuel dollars.....
I feel your fuel cost pain (just not at your level) Go ahead - use the AC!
..ez..
Last 4 tanks, 27.7 indicated, 26.5 calculated.
60% city driving.
MPG indicated has been high every time: .56 - 2.05 mpg high.
Is there some MPG break in or something?
What does your trip computer show?
I've been 26.x mpg from the first tank.
If I was strictly city with lots of stopsigns/stoplights it woulds run about 20-21 mpg.
'07 XLE, 4cyl.
BTW, for those who may be worried, our '04 Camry 4-cyl 4A at its worst gets 23 mpg in "city" driving (small town in our case) and our '05 Camry 4-cyl 5A gets 21 mpg under the same conditions.
Given harsher city conditions, 18 mpg isn't out of line. Also, a single tank is only an indicator, since you may not have filled the tank to the same level before and after.
there's no "break in" period for mpg. the only thing that is being broken in is you and your wallet, by sales talk from toyota, and if you complain about it after the purchase, enough lip service to give you an ear ache. One thing they will not be able to do is improve the mileage on the car because it simply does not get any better.
What you report is right on the money of what the car gets (I also own two camrys). I'm guessing you didn't read this particular forum before your purchase. I encourage you to continue reporting, whatever mpg you get, to inform others.
Newcomers, don't despair -- his Camry gets really lousy mileage, so all others must too.
Anyway, here's a previous post of mine to show you there is hope!
210delray, "Toyota Camry: MPG-Real World Numbers" #125, 24 Mar 2006 7:10 am
I'll get around to updating this for my '04 Camry when I have more gumption (and time). Needless to say, it's still doing great, 29-30 mpg in my normal commute, which is an against-the-flow, mostly highway (but not freeway) jaunt.
And tomorrow, I'm going to post some little-known refueling tips from a Ford owner's manual that'll make your mpg calculations more accurate!
1st fill-up 24.5 MPG (about 70/30 Highway/City driving)
2nd fill-up 21.2 MPG (all city driving) this was my worst tank so far
3rd fill-up 22.5 MPG (20/80 Highway/City) The city driving here included about an hour of bumper to bumper traffic!
4th fill-up 26.5 MPG (40/60 Highway/City) My best so far!
I have been using the AC the whole time.
Mine is improving with time. I have not quite used a 1/4 of a tank yet and have 92 miles with all city driving. I do believe it improves over time or at least mine is seeming to.
I had a 2000 Camry that faithfully got 25 in the city and 30 on the highway. I am hoping to at least get near that eventually. I will keep posting to let you know what I continue to get.
What engine?
What Transmission?
4 cylinder engine and automatic transmission
Use the same filling rate setting from the pump (low, medium, or high) each time the tank is filled.
Allow no more than 2 automatic click-offs when filling.
Always use fuel of the recommended octane rating.
Use a known quality gasoline, preferably from a national brand.
Use the same side of the pump of the same pump and have the vehicle facing the same direction each time you fill up.
Have the vehicle loading and distribution the same every time.
(Obviously, if you're on a trip, you can't follow all of the above.)
I had a 2000 Camry that faithfully got 25 in the city and 30 on the highway. I am hoping to at least get near that eventually. I will keep posting to let you know what I continue to get. "
welcome melissa 1028 (to the club of formerly gas-economic camrys who bought new ones that are not). I'm sure there are several of us (myself, janderson8, kiesl, etc.) who wish they could get your 21 mpg in the city. Sounds like the 2007 may be an improvement over recent years.
First fill-up was 18.8 mpg
Second fill-up was 18.4 mpg
60/40 city/highway
mostly without encountering any extremely heavy traffic in both city and highway. I live in the San Gabriel Valley in SoCal. I don't drive with a heavy foot on the gas pedal, or anything like that.
Both times I've gotten 280 miles from full to when the fuel light comes up and it shows it to be empty, but fill-up is about 15 gallons both times.
My old 95 camry is getting better mileage than my 07 camry, and I don't take much care of that car.
:confuse:
I'm not expecting the mpg that Toyota advertised, 24/33
but I do expect to be getting somewhere around 400 plus miles per fill-up or at least up in the high 300's
I would bring it back and talk to the dealer about it. Good luck!
At the same ratio city/Hwy as yours, my fuel light comes on at about 380 miles and the most I've filled up with is 14.7 gallons.
If you're in SoCal, you've got to be hitting some traffic. I visited LA in December, and it's difficult not to get stuck somewhere, even on weekends.
The only way you'll know for sure on the mpg is to take it on a highway-exclusive trip (without traffic backups). But I'd wait until the official break-in period is over (1000 miles).
BTW, for both my '04 and '05 Camrys with the same 18.5-gallon fuel tank, when the low-fuel light first comes on, it takes about 15 gallons to fill up.
Bottom of the page a fuel consumption calculator. U.S. and Imperial gallons. Quick and accurate
Thanks Doug
40/60 highway/city (350 miles on 3/4 tank). Ended up around 29.5 mpg.
Will update when I put some more miles on it. Overall am quite happy with what I've gotten so far. :shades:
24.56 Actual 26.0 Trip Computer
26.07 Actual 27.3 Trip Computer Avg. for 5 tanks
Most gallons on fillup was 16.13 with tank indicating empty and 5 miles after range dropped to zero.
Here is my overall mileage over 2487 miles, 82.864 gals, 30.01 mpg, about 90 to 95% highway, constant 70 mph.
I have not been babying the car since I got it back, and only lost about 1.5 mpg compared to when I was light on the pedal. Sure is a lot more fun for the difference!
First (calculated) tank- 19 MPG (mostly city)
Second- 21 (mostly city, some even without my AC on)
Third- 21 (mostly city)
Fourth- 24 (Half city/half highway)
My crappy Mazda MPV (V6) got 18-19 city!!! Should have kept it. I bought this Camry to get the published 25 city/31 highway!!
Oh, and NO I have not been driving it fast and hard. I have babied the thing for these first 2,000 miles. I have not accelerated quickly or been speeding. So, that can NOT be their reason for the bad gas mileage. My brother, who is a certified mechanic says it is idling too rough. Not sure if that can affect the mileage or not. I am wondering if this VVII-i (Variable Valve) addition is actually hampering the gas mileage instead of helping it. Sure seems like it makes that RPM gage hop around alot.