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Toyota Camry Real World MPG

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  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,667
    I was getting 31.5 mpg on my commute to work with my '10 Camry Base 6 speed manual. Thanks to the cold and snow, I only got 27.7 mpg average of my last two fill-ups.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,426
    Very interested in what a '10 with a stick shift can do on the highway. Any long trips yet at moderate speed?
  • gtgtcobragtgtcobra Posts: 259
    "I was getting 31.5 mpg on my commute to work with my '10 Camry Base 6 speed manual. Thanks to the cold and snow, I only got 27.7 mpg average of my last two fill-ups."

    That really $ucks. I would think that you should be able to get "at least" 30 MPG in your 2010 base Camry 6 speed manual even in the coldest and snowy days. I used to EASILY get 30 - 31 MPG on my 1997 Camry CE 5 speed manual EVERY WEEK during the coldest and snowy days ALL WINTER LONG. In the summertime I got 31 - 33 MPG.
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,667
    No, that's typical for me during this time of the year, for all the cars I have ever had. I always lose at least 2 mpg, and more, because of the slower driving in the snow. I have some tanks that I am down about 5 mpg from my average. This has always been the case with all my cars. They cannot defy the laws of physics - their is nothing wrong with the cars, only the weather is at fault for the lower mpg (or me, for living in the North!)
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,667
    No, not long enough to tell. The longest highway trip has been an hour, but then on the same tank was my work commutes, and commutes to the store, YMCA, etc, so I don't know pure highway yet.

    I am very happy with the 31.5 mpg on my normal commutes though. I only have 5,000 miles on it.
  • gtgtcobragtgtcobra Posts: 259
    Hey mcdawgg,
    What type of vehicle is your "tank" that you are referring to here which gets only 5 MPG? What year and make and how many miles is your other vehicle which you call a "tank"?
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    He's referring to his tracking of each tankful's miles and gallonage. Example, last tank was 30 mpg, the tank before that was 25 mpg.
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,667
    I have some tanks that I am down about 5 mpg from my average. This has always been the case with all my cars.

    I think the sentence above is what is confusing you. Kiawah is correct, I mean tanks of fuel, because I calculate my mpg after each refueling. I am saying that I have some readings that are 5 mpg less than my typical averages, and it is because of the cold and snow, and/or more short trips. And I am saying that this has happened with all of my cars for as long as I have owned cars. They all have significantly less mpg at times, specifically during the winter. 31.5 down to 27.7 is just because of the cold and snow and maybe a few more shorter trips. There may have been a few even worse readings, but I don't calculate mpg at every refueling, because there are some that just know will be very low due to cold, short trips, only topping up the fuel tank, whatever. I am not very anal about it, because I know it can vary a lot. I specifically focus on mpg when the trips are typical (my commutes) in good weather, not many short trips, etc. If I have a lot of idling (in a traffic jam, etc.) I just wait until the next tank of gas.

    I am VERY pleased with the mpg on my 2010 Camry. It is getting just what I would expect it to on my commutes. I will let you know when I do a long trip.
  • Cheers,

    I had a short nice time today driving my 2010 Camry XLE.

    Just fill the tank today and after 1 mile city drive took the ramp to the high way. I couldn't believe my eyes as the bord computer was displayign 46.4 MPG with a speed of 58-60 Miles/h (really not speeding but slow enought than other cars). I drove more than 12 miles with 46.0 - 46.4 MPG at 55-60 miles/hours. Later on I was able to have the board computer display 50.2 MPG. At this time I feelt like I don't want to live the toll road any more. Unfortunately I had to take the next exit where I live and when parking the car in the garage still with 46.0 MPG.

    Forgot to mention that today we had like 68 ° in texas so no cold weahter.

    Tomorrow I'll try it again. But If I'm unlucky and have trafic at the light and the time I'll hit the toll road again I'll be probably by 36.0 MPG.

    Here the story: I've noticed that right after a full gas filling the milenage is pretty high specially if you drive like 1-2 miles city and then get on the highway where you can maintain a speed average of 55-60 miles/hous you'll have great gasmilenage. But once you stop inintersection (red lights) then this will drop and you'll be by 29-30 MPG.

    BTW: The odo reads actually 2290 Miles and I've read that at the beginn before the engine really break in the the real MPG will vary.

    Since I have the car the worst I got was 27.8 MPG in the city.

    Any one else could make the board computer display those numbers?

    FYI: Only possible after a gas filling. Right after that drive in the city. You'll (hopefully) be arround 27 - 28 MPG. Now Once you let the car roll (no speed up, no break, just let the car roll) when approching a light or intersection It'll jump from 27/28 to 33/35 MPG and with that number being displayed on the board computer if you take the highway It'll stay like that.

    Just don't know If it has somethink todo with opening and closing the gas cap even without filling up gas. I've noticed that always after a gas filling the board computer is re-computing the gas milenage and that how I can "trix" him. I'll try It the next time open and close without filling in gas.

    Please give It a try and post your experience here in the forum.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Exactly my experiences here in the flatlands of the NC coastline in the same temps and mild weather last Oct / Nov. After filling up though I had a 75 mi highway drive at a very moderate speed of 8 mph above the limit, 63 vs 55. You're exactly right. As soon as you bring the vehicle to a stop or slow way down - then have to add gas - for any reason your fuel economy suffers big time.

    Moral: Never stop, or try to stop as few times as legally and safely possible.
  • kingfans1kingfans1 Posts: 137
    I am getting 28.4 mpg on my 2006 Camry le V6 ( 90 % highway ).. I always warm up my car for 4-5 minutes .. I also use Chevron 87 octane..
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    just drive conservatively for the first 5 minutes, instead of sitting there idling.
  • gtgtcobragtgtcobra Posts: 259
    I just filled up the tank in my 2010 Camry LE tonight. I drove exactly 503.2 miles and I put in exactly 19.05 gallons of fuel inside the tank.
    The gas pump stopped and "clicked" the first time around exactly at 17.775 gallons. I ended up adding more fuel into the tank until the gas pump clicked at the "6th click" at exactly 19.05 gallons.

    If I calculate the MPG fuel economy with the 17.775 gallons at the "first click" of the gas pump, I get 28.309 MPG fuel economy (503.2 miles/ 17.775 gallons = 28.309 MPG)

    But if I calculate the MPG fuel economy with the 19.05 gallons at the "6th click" of the gas pump, I get ONLY get 26.414 MPG fuel economy (503.2 miles/ 19.05 gallons = 26.414 MPG)

    Which is the "TRUE MPG"? The 28.309 MPG or the 26.414 MPG? Or would you average out the 2 figures at 27.36 MPG (28.309 MPG + 26.309 MPG/ 2 = 27.36 MPG)? What do you think that the "TRUE MPG" fuel economy for my vehicle is right now?

    ALSO, I am confused about something else here. If the gas tank in my vehicle holds ONLY 18.5 gallons of gas and if I was able to put 19.05 gallons into the tank during the fill-up tonight, then does that mean that there was still 1.275 gallons of gas in the tank and in the fuel line that goes from the tank all the way to the engine (19.05 gal - 17.775 gal = 1.275 gal)?
    WHY was I able to put in an extra 1.275 gallons of gasoline in the tank? The engine on my vehicle was still able to run when I pulled into the gas station before I filled the tank up with gas. In other words, I didn't run out of gas. My engine was still running after I pulled into the gas station.
    Does this mean that the 1.275 gallon "difference" that I calculated was gasoline which was "still" in the tank and in the fuel lines? Is this correct? I would like to know.
    THANKS
  • gtgtcobragtgtcobra Posts: 259
    I forgot to mention in my previous post that my 2010 Camry LE already has 2,057 original miles on it right now exactly at the time of the gas fill-up. Do you think that the engine is broken-in already or do you think that I need to go another 3,000 miles until the car reaches 5,000 miles in order for the engine to be "fully" broken-in? What is the "correct" break-in period for the 2.5L automatic 4 cylinder engine?
    Does anybody in here know?
    THANKS
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    To avoid the 'error factor' associated with a single tank filling, you should keep track over multiple tankfuls. Let's say you have a one gallon error factor, depending upon whether you stop at one click or 6 clicks. That is one gallon, on a basis of 18 gallons.

    If on the other hand you tracked for each of 5 consecutive gas tanks, then you would have a one gallon error, on a basis of about 90 gallons or so of gas. It start to becomes immaterial.

    Don't overfill your gas tank, just fill it to the first or second click off. In some vehicles gasoline can get into the fuel evaporation system and you can ruin a charcoal canister.
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    I agree fully with kiawah. Just try to fill the tank the same way each time, and don't "stuff" as much gas as you can into the tank. Over multiple fills, any discrepancies among different filling techniques and gas pumps will average out. Ford says to minimize errors by using the same pump at the same station with your car facing the same direction each time (obviously not feasible on a long trip).

    You don't have to run the tank nearly dry; it's not a good idea (both for you AND the car).

    The engine is definitely not fully broken in at your mileage; I'd say 5000 miles is a reasonable mileage for full break-in, but not a hard and fast number.
  • samiam_68samiam_68 Posts: 775
    You need to stop filling at the first click, otherwise you will damage your emission system.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Yes this is critical. When it clicks don't add anything more.

    And stop worrying about one tank or another. The only think that matters is how many gallons you pumped to get to 5000 miles. ( 5000 / x gal )

    The next measurement is 'how many gallons did you have to pump to get to 10,000 miles?'
  • dremdrem Posts: 24
    gtgtcobra,

    You are not anywhere close to your best mileage due to a very young engine. You won't see your best mileage until 40,000 miles plus. The 'break in' you speak of is just to rub off the high points on the moving metal parts. However, the parts are designed with very close tolerances and with today's good oils they won't loosen up for a long time. You should be getting the same 'best' mileage well past 100,000 miles.
    Also, I think you are driving yourself nuts about 'clicks' and 'lines on the gas gauge'. Just use full tanks and fill to the first click. It all averages out with time.

    The new engine should be better at efficiency because of the higher torque, but don't baby it. It has six speeds to shift efficiently as you accelerate. If you accelerate too slowly it just stays in lower gears longer than necessary.

    You will find your fuel economy better if you use cruise control. Your gas mileage can be 10% lower if you don't use it.

    It IS possible it has a problem, but at this point no-one can tell because its too new. Wait till spring and we can advise you more.

    BTW, both my 1999 and 2004 4 cyl autos get very good mileage on the road...35-37mpg at 72 cruise for the 1999 and 36-38 for the 2004. I can't even quantify any drop in the winter as long as there is no snow on the road. I have a neighbor who is anal about gas mileage and just bought a 2010 4cyl auto. I'll let you know what he is getting.

    Drem
  • Drem,
    I've got almost 2,700 original miles on my 2010 Camry LE right now. I just did a fill-up on January 30th and the MPG fuel economy DROPPED on my Camry to 23.9 MPG. During the fill-up before this one, I got 26 MPG. We've been having very cold weather up here, so maybe that's why the mileage dropped so much this time around. Also, I didn't do that much highway driving on this particular tank of gas.
    I am hoping that the MPG fuel economy will get better when spring and summer come around. I am not very happy at the MPG fuel economy figures. I don't drive beyond 55 - 60 MPH on the highway. I should be getting better fuel economy in my Camry. I am starting to get the feeling that some Camrys get high MPG fuel economy while others do not. Maybe mine is one of the ones that gets the lower MPG fuel economy? I am used to getting 30 - 32 MPG from the 1997 Camry CE which I used to own. The lower fuel economy in my current Camry is telling me that my vehicle either hasn't broken in yet or that the very cold weather up here is limiting the vehicle's ability to be more economical.
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