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Toyota Corolla Real World MPG

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  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,668
    Well, if you look at Consumer Report's real world mpg test, it says that the Corolla is best in class, except for a hybrid and a diesel.

    My experience is it is easy to get 37 mpg on the highway at a steady 70 mph, light winds, 40+ degrees F. If slower than 70, not a problem to get 39 mpg.

    City - it does very well also, but it is too hard to compare one person's "city" with anothers. That's why I say compare Consumer Report's real world mpg.
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    I currently have three Corollas, I have a 1992, 2001 and a 2009 and I never got better then 28 mpg with 90 % city driving on any of my Corollas. Highway is another story, I can easily get 38 with any of them with the A.C. on and cruising at 65 mph. That being said, I love all of my Corollas. The only other small car I would even consider would be a Mazda 3.
  • What year is your Civic?
    I just looked on www.fueleconomy.gov
    I compared the 2013 Corolla, 2012, 2007 & 2000 Civics, all 5-speeds:
    2013 Corolla - 27 city, 34 hwy
    2012 Civic - 28/36
    2007 Civic - 26/34
    2000 Civic - 27/33

    The 2000 Civic is 1.6L, others are 1.8L
  • My Civic is a 2005. It is rated, I believe, at 29 city, but I have had no problem getting over 30 during the warmer months in city driving. (The same exact kind of driving got me only 18-19 in a 2000 Camry (rated at 23 city), so I'm wondering if Toyota inflates their mileage ratings or finds some way to list them higher. My Civic is a manual. The Camry was an automatic. Of course, a new Civic would probably cost $2000 more than the Corolla, which would compensate money wise for the extra gas but it wouldn't do the environment or our national oil consumption any good.
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,668
    Toyota does not "inflate" their mileage ratings any more than Honda. They all are EPA ratings, not individual ratings, and all the makers try to score the highest possible on the EPA test. Did you check out Consumer Reports' real word mpg ratings?

    For 100,000 miles, but the car costs $2,000 more, you would have to have much more mpg to make it worth it. For example, at 28.5 mpg a new Civic is 3.5 mpg better than a Corolla, but $2,000 more, then it is break even.= 25 mpg. At 34mpg vs 29 mpg, that is break-even. Assuming $4.00 per gallon.

    I have no problems getting EPA or better on a 2010 Camry with a 6 speed manual, or 2010 Corolla auto.
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    I don't believe Toyota or any other automobile manufacturer "inflates" their EPA gas mileage ratings but I do believe the EPA ratings are mostly unrealistic. It's just a measure of how to gauge one car over another as far as one being better on gas then the other.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,444
    The manual transmission is the difference. The EPA ratings favor automatics. It is easy to beat the EPA ratings in a manual.
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    I suppose if you terribly under rev the motor and really labor it, you might be able to match or even beat the EPA MPG ratings; but who wants to drive like that ?
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,444
    When I say beat them I mean by like 10 mpg. My '07 Accord stick is rated 31 highway and I have averaged 35 mpg for 160,000 miles. More than 60 tanks have been over 40 mpg. My '90 Integra actually gets worse mpg, but it is only rated at 26mpg highway. I very rarely have a tank under 30mpg in that car and it can get 40 mpg occasionally.

    Never heard of an MT that could not easily beat EPA ratings.
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    Well if the 2013 Corolla is rated at 27 city and 34 hwy and your going to tell me you can "easily beat" that and get 37 city and 44 hwy consistantly without altering your driving habits severly I would have to ask, do you use 1st and 2nd gear at all ? ? ? ? LOL
  • oliver69oliver69 Posts: 1
    You may want to keep track of how much time you are spending at lights, in traffic, etc. Because, even though, you are not moving and clocking miles on your odometer you ARE burning fuel and that eats into your fuel economy.

    My brother has a Honda civic hybrid with a readout that tells you the car's fuel economy in real time and we noticed that as we were stopped or in traffic the economy gauge would, fairly quickly, tick down from 45 to 42, 40, 38. This may be the reason why you are not getting the mileage you are supposed to.

    Just an idea.
  • Yup, right you are. I think I read if you are stopped longer than 15sec it pays to turn the car off which I do regularly on my route to work where I know the light will be long. Also a key thing on newer cars is if you know you are going to be stopping, just take your foot of the gas (stay in gear) and the injectors will shut off and your guage should shortly read 100MPG
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    All Toyotas 2009 and forward have that gas milage read out feature also, that's not something that's just exclusive to Honda.
  • I've driven quite a few 02-06 Corollas & noticed after idling for more than 10 or so seconds, the engine idle becomes a little rougher. I'm thinking the engine fuel mixture is intentionally leaned out to increase fuel economy? Any thoughts?

    I moved a few month's ago & now sit in quite a bit of stop & go traffic on the daily commute. Even with the air conditioner on, mileage is still outstanding as long as RPM's are kept low. Running average (last 10 tanks) is 41 MPG & overall average is 39.6 since October 2012. (2005 -5 speed)
  • Interested in mpg for city/hwy with conservative driving techniques?

    Thanks!

    Don
  • Automatic or manual?
  • auto but manual trans would give me a rough idea also!

    Thanks,

    Don
  • hoopitup2000hoopitup2000 Posts: 46
    edited August 2013
    The main thing to concentrate on is to PRESERVE MOMENTUM as much as possible. Look ahead for slowing traffic, curves, red lights, etc. & let off the gas to minimize brake usage as much as possible. Trying not to piss off people behind you while doing this may require somewhat of a compromise at times, so keep that in mind as well. Let's face it, MANY drivers are impatient & don't realize they will not get to point B any faster by driving like it is their last day on earth. They drive by the seat of their pants & use no common sense.

    Try to not stop completely when approaching red lights as well. Starting up from a complete stop uses more fuel than a very slow roll. Avoid surging as much as possible.

    Do not warm up the car more than 30 seconds, but do drive gently for the first few minutes to allow ALL the components of the car to safely warm up. Just sitting in the driveway waiting for the car to warm up only warms the engine, not the transmission & other vital components.

    Turn off the engine if you will be idling for more than 3-4 minutes.

    Unfortunately, the automatic can only yield impressive numbers (around 40 MPG) on the open flat road at speeds 65 & under. Add in some hills, or stop & go & you can only expect around 30 or so MPG.

    The manual allows complete control over the engines pumping losses which can account for most the fuel conservation. Maintaining the lowest possible RPM's without lugging is the key to getting impressive numbers in stop & go driving situations. For example, when accelerating if the RPM's are kept BELOW 2500 with a medium to heavy foot, pumping losses are greatly reduced & less fuel is used. When climbing steep hills, only downshift if necessary & mash the accelerator to the floor if needed with the manual. I just traveled through the steep twisty Route 50 through West Virginia (never again) & managed an almost record 43 MPG on that tank. One incline was steep enough to require a downshift to 3rd gear & the accelerator to the floor for at least one mile. (Yikes) Keep in mind that the procedures explained in this last paragraph ONLY APPLY TO MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS. Heavy acceleration with the automatic will use MORE fuel, not LESS, as with a manual & proper gear selection.
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    I say drive the car normally and have fun rather than trying to set MPG records. Enjoy the great gas mileage you get with normal driving.
  • hoopitup2000hoopitup2000 Posts: 46
    edited August 2013
    I do enjoy driving tremendously & getting over 100,000 miles on front brakes.

    The best part about driving for me is observing all the idiots that seem to have zero common sense & drive by the seat of their pants. But then again, somebody has to keep those guys at Midas busy!!
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,444
    Driving smart should be normal, but unfortunately it isn't for most people.
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    edited August 2013
    Good advice! I'm a bit confused about the heavy acceleration with manual trannys, but I no longer own one, and can't debate the issue.

    There are times that things just don't go the way we want, but here are some thoughts.

    I try to keep in mind that the main difference in highway mileage and city is the use of the brakes. Whenever brakes are used, we either just wasted gas or about to waste it. And the more frequent and harder the brakes are applied, the more gas we wasted.

    Another common but not recognized waste of gas is accelerating on an incline. Much better to accelerate on a decline so gravity can help mileage rather than hinder.

    But we have to use good sense also!

    Kip
  • Conventional "Otto Cycle" engines operate most efficiently at lower RPM's with the throttle MORE OPEN than closed. Therefore shifting as early as possible with a larger throttle opening maximizes engine efficiency during acceleration.

    This is the why the manual transmission can far exceed a conventional automatic in city driving scenarios. The manual also wins out on the highway in hilly/mountainous areas. Automatics will downshift & jack the RPM's up to an inefficient level. (Higher RPM/ small throttle opening=reduced efficiency) With the manual, burying the accelerator & avoiding unnecessary downshifts is far more efficient, of course you don't want to lug the engine. (Lower RPM/wider throttle opening= higher efficiency)

    Google "Pumping losses", Atkinson Cycle engines" & Diesel engines for a more thorough explanation.
  • I should have mentioned that the Otto Cycle engine is the typical engine found in most American cars.
  • I appreciate all the theory and practice which I have understood and done for many years in other vehicles such as echo or prius...trying to get to the actual numbers for 1996 auto trans. if possible............................................

    thanks!

    Don
  • EPA says 26 City / 32 Hwy. Is that about what you are seeing?
  • Hard to say since I just got some gas tank leakage issues fixed and have only driven around town ad not on any long trips.......I usually find the EPA estimates to be not too hard to beat I later model cars but don't know about this year,,,,,
  • Just purchased a 2013 corolla in July. It currently has 3100 miles and is getting 35 city 42 hwy.
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