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Mazda3 Real World MPG

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  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    We just got the car last week and we love it. We got the manumatic auto tranny and was wondering if the mileage will get better after the 1st oil change or after about 5k miles? The 2.3 can really move when it has to and the shifts are unnoticeable and very silky. We got the Sunlight Silver after they couldn't get the Titanium for us. So glad now they couldn't find it as we both love the Silver color. They even put a darker gray pin stripe on it and it looks a bit classier!
    Zoom Zoom!

    The Sandman :)
  • chavis10chavis10 Posts: 166
    6500 miles. Philadelphia city driving with stop signs and lights everywhere. I do very little highway driving and have been averaging around 17-22 mpg. The first 2000-3000 I got terrible mileage in the 17mpg range. Got better with time but never get close to 24 mpg city rating. A/C is used very little. I have the 2.3 5door with automatic. '06 models get 5 spd automatics which will hopefully improve mileage for those owners. I wish I could get a new tranny installed seeing as though mine shifts very hard (1-2 upshift) after the car sits overnight. Dealer says they can't duplicate problem (they also got me for a $42 oil change because of different oil filter and "O" ring).
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    From what I've been reading, the 5 speed automatic will be an option for the S model. Can anyone confirm this? We also got a prepaid maintenance program and feel satisfied, as it coes with 15 oil changes and tire rotations every 6k miles. The price at our dealership for an oil change is now $29.95. They said that the oil change needs to be done at a Mazda dealer as it needs some special Mazda specific tool or something. Actually, with the dealer so close from our house, 1.6 miles, the convience is worth it to us and the fact that Mazda parts will be used makes us that much happier.
    Ready to take on any critizisum(?)...so let me have it guys!
    Zoom Zoom!

    The Sandman :)
  • cticti Posts: 134
    I'm running in the mid 20s so far. 4800 miles on my car. The bulk of the miles are from two long round trips where i think I averaged 27-28 mpg.

    My Kia would average 30-32 for the same trips and 27 or so on my commute to work. My Mazda is averaging 25 for the same trip.

    And like chavis10 I also experience a hard 1-2 shift the very first time I shift in the morning.

    I love the car but the fuel economy is disappointing. I hope the new 5AT puts highway fuel economy above 30
  • chavis10chavis10 Posts: 166
    I found this info on the web. Makes me mad because I'd love some of these features. Bose, Driver info center, 5spd auto, variable wipers, LED taillights, heated seats, pollen filter, outside temp display, and automatic temp control. These new features will be available in top "Grand Touring" trim level. Read on:

    New Features for 2006

    The 2006 MAZDA3 is a carry-over model, but there are some exciting new features for 2006 models including the addition of variable valve timing (VVT) to the 2.0L engine, the addition of PZEV (for five states) to the 2.3L engine, and the addition of a 5-Speed Sport AT to the 2.3L engine. All models with air conditioning also contain a pollen filter and ambient (outside) temperature display in the center instrument panel. All 2.3L models add standard ABS and variable-intermittent front wipers. The new 2.3L “s Grand Touring” model (which replaces the successful 05MY Special Edition SP23) contains the SP23 features plus automatic climate control and a driving information system (trip computer) for around the same price as SP23 – a great value on a well-equipped car! There are two new exterior colors for 2.3L models: Copper Red Mica (replaces Lava Orange) and Whitewater Pearl Mica (replaces Rally White).

    Pricing for 2006

    The 2006 pricing is based on 2005 models with pricing adjustments for equipment changes. Estimated pricing for major equipment changes includes ABS ($300 MSRP), SAB/SAC ($500 MSRP), 5AT ($950 MSRP), Bose Audio ($400 MSRP), Manual A/C ($880 MSRP), Automatic A/C ($100 MSRP), Driving Information System ($50 MSRP), and Whitewater Pearl Paint ($200 MSRP).

    Build Combinations and Model Lineup for 2006

    In addition to all these great new features, the really big news for 2006 MAZDA3 is a reduction in factory build combinations from 110 to 50 MSCs which will help all dealers with production ordering and inventory management. Here is a summary of the model lineup and MSC changes:

    This MSC reduction is a direct result of dealer feedback regarding the need to streamline the MAZDA3 ordering and inventory process. The majority of the MSC reduction is a result of making previous 2005 model optional equipment (e.g., ABS, SAB/SAC, Xenon, TPMS) standard on certain 2006 models. Also, the Navigation System is now only available as an option on the “s Grand Touring” model, and Bose Audio is added to the Moonroof and 6-CD Changer option package on the “s Grand Touring” model.

    Feature Models for 2006

    The 2006 MAZDA3 advertising will continue to feature the well-equipped MAZDA3 4-Door model in Titanium Gray Metallic and the well-equipped MAZDA3 5-Door model in Winning Blue Metallic. The featured price leader model will continue to be the entry-level MAZDA3 i 4-Door with manual transmission, air conditioning, and D&D charge with an estimated “Starting At” price of $15,140 MSRP which is $50 MSRP higher than the 05MY MSRP due to the addition of VVT on the 2.0L engine and pollen filter and outside temperature display on models with air conditioning.

    Individual dealer ordering and sales history for 05MY should be used as the basis for 06MY ordering; however, please refer to the 2006 MAZDA3 Spec Decks and consider the following points when placing your orders:

    Ø 2.0L 4-Door “i” model

    o The 15” alloy wheel option is no longer available.

    o The ABS/SAB/SAC package is now available on entry-level 4-Door models with A/C. Please consider the increasing popularity of this option (over 50% take rate nationally for 05MY) and the expectation that key competitors will offer standard ABS/SAB/SAC for 06MY. The MAZDA3 ABS/SAB/SAC will be competitively priced for 06MY.

    Ø 2.0L 4-Door “i Touring” model

    o The core 2.0L 4-Door “i Touring” model replaces the “Power Package with 16” alloys” and both the equipment level and pricing are similar to that of the 2005 model.

    o Standard equipment: “i” model plus air conditioning with pollen filter and outside temperature display, power door locks/windows/mirrors, cruise control, keyless entry, driver’s seat tilt/height/lumbar, 16” alloy wheels, 205/55VR16 tires, front tweeter (2) speakers.

    Ø 2.3L 4-Door and 5-Door “s” models

    o Carry-over 2005 model equipment plus pollen filter, outside temperature display, and variable-intermittent wipers. ABS is now standard equipment on all 2.3L models.

    o Options include the all-new 5AT, the very popular Moonroof & 6-CD Changer package, and SAB/SAC package (on 4-Door model).

    Ø 2.3L 4-Door and 5-Door “s Touring” models

    o Making key sport and safety equipment standard on the “s Touring” model and simultaneously limiting options results in a significant decrease in build combinations.

    o Standard equipment: “s” model plus 17” alloy wheels and side sills (4-Door model) and standard SAB/SAC. Options include 5AT, Moonroof/6-CD package, and Leather Trimmed Seats.

    Ø 2.3L 4-Door and 5-Door “s Grand Touring” models

    o Builds on the popularity of the well-equipped and highly popular SP23 (with black leather interior and eight available exterior colors) while reducing build complexity by offering only three options: 5AT, Moonroof/6-CD/Bose Audio package, and Navigation System.

    o Standard equipment: “s Touring” plus leather trimmed seats, heated front seats, automatic climate control, driver info system, auto on/off headlights, rain-sensing windshield wipers, Xenon HID headlights, tire pressure monitor system, security system, LED taillights (5-Door).
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    Too bad you have to get leather to get Bose.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Glad I got my non-ABS 3 while I could!

    Meade
  • x5918x5918 Posts: 30
    Got 245 miles with a tank full of gas. A/C is always on, driving 10 city / 90 highway mix. Mostly 50 to 65 mph (3s hb, mt, 17 inch wheels).

    Drag coefficients: 0.332 / 0.346 (4 door vs 5 door hatchback, with 17 inch wheels)

    The hatchback model has somewhat higher drag coefficient, and cross section area than the other Mazda3 models, which could explain the mediocre/poor gas mileage. Still, the highway mileage for this model is declared as 32 mpgh (the dealership sticker said 30 mpg) - the gap is simply too big :lemon: .

    Maybe somebody could get a class act lawsuit started, against Mazda for disclosing too favorable gas mileage? Did anybody feel they got violated?

    http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/pdf/specs_features/veh_specs_MZ3.pdf
  • cticti Posts: 134
    It's the governments fault (and possible your driving) that is causing you to get fuel economy numbers that don't match the stated numbers.

    Write your Congressman and Senators and demand they update the EPA mileage tests to more accurately reflect actual driving. Of course, they never will because that might mean autos will have their mileage ratings downgraded. And that would cause companies to miss mandated fuel economy standards.

    BTW, how many gallons was your "full" tank of gas? I am still trying to figure out how much gas I really have left when my fuel gauge is on E.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    My big highway trip a few weeks ago was quite favorable, gas-mileage wise!

    Despite the fact that my car was loaded to the ceiling from the front passenger seat to the tailgate (and I'm not lying) with several hundred pounds of camping gear, two (full) coolers, 150 pounds of radio equipment, and other stuff, AND my trip was mostly on two-lane, twisty (i.e. fun) state highways in the mountains, AND I used my A/C almost the entire time, I still managed to pull off 30.3 mpg over my 500-plus-mile odyssey.

    BTW, I just crossed 5,000 miles on my 3-month-old 2005 Mazda3S hatch. (Wow, do I drive THAT much?!) I'm still averaging 27-28 mpg every fillup (except the one above), where my driving is mostly commuting and weekend shopping with the wife and kid. And yes, like many of you I too suffer from the frequent urge to smear the crap out of other cars leaving toll booths, traffic lights, etc. And I tend to drive 65 in a 55 zone and, well, I've been up to around 90 in a 65 (hey, the traffic was going nearly that fast -- we're talking I-95 between Richmond and D.C.).

    Just FWIW, I've had the car up to just under 100 one day just to see what it felt like after reading about Mazda's desire to make this car handle reassuringly at speed.

    Know what?

    They were right.

    This car is MUCH more firmly footed at 90 than my 2000 Protege was! Mazda has turned what used to be a white-knuckled experience into an enjoyable high-speed cruise.

    Good thing I'm related to two of the judges in my county!!!

    :shades:

    Meade
  • x5918x5918 Posts: 30
    It has now become apparent to me, why I will never have the chance to meet the EPA highway mpg. Why would anyone drive 48 mph on a highway! (inconsiderate and outright dangerous). The solution, would be, for the Environmental Protection Agency to introduce two more mpg's called "freeway" and "expressway". How about this: highway = 48 mph, freeway = 58 mph , expressway = 68 mph. All three mileages would be quoted, together with the nominal speed. End of confusion.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    You're not the first person to be disappointed by failing to meet the EPA heights for fuel economy. Personally, I use them as relative rather than absolute numbers. In other words, compared to a Toyota Corolla the Mazda3 is a less fuel efficient vehicle and the EPA numbers as well as a test drive will prove that. If you were aiming at reaching the EPA figures you would have to be driving very conservatively (under the speed limit, with minimal short stops and avoiding a host of other gas wasting activities). You can try changing your driving style or, like me, learn to love the borg.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    A car getting 3 mpg more than mine will go maybe 36 miles more on a tank of gas, or about a gallon and some change. These days it costs me $26 to fill up my Mazda3, so an extra 36 miles per tankful would put about $2.75 back in my pocket. What would you rather have -- a car that's BORING AS HELL, or one less Big Mac a week?

    I'll give up the Big Mac and keep on Zoomin'!

    Meade
  • z71billz71bill Posts: 2,000
    Filled up the Mazda3 today - the low fuel light came on just as I pulled up to the pump - 12.7 gallons - 227 miles - 17.9 MPG!

    The Mazda3 is NOT a Performance car - NOT a Sports car - NOT a Luxury car - and with 17.9 MPG NOT even an Economy car.

    My full size SUV gets better MPG -
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    bill - You might want to get an emissions test. If the car is out-of-spec Mazda would have to fix it, and this could be related to the lousy fuel mileage! (just an idea)
  • z71billz71bill Posts: 2,000
    If something was wrong with the emissions wouldn't a CEL come on?

    The engine seems to run fine.

    The only thing that I have changed is my tire PSI.

    The dealership told me that I had 35 PSI - in all of my tires - they adjusted them to 32 PSI.

    I check the tires every few weeks with a digital gauge - and always set them at 32.5 - I checked them when I got home from the dealership and got 29.5 PSI - so I dug around and found 3 more tire gauges - they all read 32 - seems that my digital gauge is off by 2.5 PSI.

    My tires are now at 32 PSI - I know that tire pressure can impact MPG - but didn't think 3 PSI could make this much difference.
  • damien3damien3 Posts: 1
    I was averaging similar mpg figures as you with a MZ3s 4 spd sedan (strato blue 17s & leather/moonroof) until it hit approx 10,000 miles. I then started to notice improvement. I am now at 13,800 miles (after owning the vehicle 11 mos. - 4 oil changes). I tracked the mpg on my last fill-up. I let it run down to 1/4 tank @ 260 miles. Fill took a little over 10 gal. I'm averaging 25 mpg's with 60/40 highway to city driving under average load.

    I live outside of Manhattan but commute daily and sometimes have 1-3 members of my family with me. They love the 3, in fact, were split between the sedan/5 dr. Fortunately, we all agreed on the color & ultimately, I decided on the sedan.

    P.S. It's OK to track your fills/mpg's, but be careful not to run the tank down too often. It puts a burden/wear on the fuel pump.

    Enjoy the car. For the money, it can't be beat. Have no regrets. Was researching and test driving for months before my purchase last August @ Smith Cairns up on Cenral Ave. in Yonkers, N.Y. (they were great). If you've read the boards you'll see the pros/cons, but all in all, this is a terrific little car for the money and such a pleasure to drive. It's the best ride in the compact category and can compete with many vehicles a "step up." I test drove those too, during my search. The bottom line is, I think we should just say THANK YOU MAZDA.

    By the way, this is my first message on these boards, but I've been checking them out for the past 12 months or so and would like to extend my appreciation to those who participate. It has been very informative.

    Special hello and thank you to Meade. What's up Meade (:>)
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    If something was wrong with the emissions wouldn't a CEL come on?

    Well, it should, but as we always say at work, "should is the key word here". ;)
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    It's been 3 weks since we got our 3s sedan and we're very happy with the car. It's really a blast to drive and it does feel more upscale than the Corolla, Civic, or even the Sentra which is my ride. I checked out the Protege back in '03, but the price I got for my Sentra was to good to pass up.
    Hopefully the mileage will improve at about 5k miles or so, but that's my only complaint up till now. I think I might end up with the 3 within the next 18 to 24 months.

    I'd be very happy to get it!!
    Zoom Zoom.

    The Sandman :)
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    You are using more than just 1st gear to get around, aren't you?

    :P

    Meade
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