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Lexus ES 350



  • tedescm1tedescm1 Posts: 309
    Body side molding are extra... usually about $125.00
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    People put way too much faith in bodyside moldings.
    There is nothing to prevent dings above and below the molding and plenty of cars have these dings there.
    You cannot park near other cars if you don't want dings.
  • petlpetl Posts: 610
    I agree. Moldings use to be beneficial when most vehicles were the same size and were situated in the middle of the door. Now, (for the vehicles that still have them) they are there for looks only. On some vehicles they are situated so low they offer no protection at all.
  • Given how nice the 2007 ES is supposed to be, does anyone think that the GS is worth spending another $2-5K for a similarly equipped vehicle.

    They are not "similarly equipped" because the new ES has a newer more powerful engine!
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    At some point I'm sure the GS will get a new base engine. Maybe 2007. The current engine is probably temporary.
  • dp5dp5 Posts: 55
    Yesterday, I posted that I was deciding between a 2006 GS 300 and a 2007 ES 350. I test drove the GS today. At 38 years of age, I guess that I'm getting old because the GS seemed like too much "sports" and not enough "sedan" for my taste. I'm not sure that it would fit my family lifestyle as well as the ES so I guess that I will wait until the new ES comes out. With this obvious sign of aging, I'm sure that plaid pants and a daily dose of Metamucil can't be too far in my future.
  • tds1tds1 Posts: 73
    Yeah - opinions do change with time! I am 34 - my problem with the GS is that headroom in the GS seems awful. I kept trying to lower the seat but it wouldn't go down any further. Didn't seem like good visibility if you were taller. Rear seat felt like I was in the back of sports car, not a 45K sedan. And don't even get me started on the trunk! It's selling well, but I am not sure who the target is. So, although the 2006 ES still has a little of that "plasticky" Toyota dashboard look to me, I have high hopes for the 2007 ES350. My wish list for the 2007 ES: AWD - Seems unlikely, but you never know, Bluetooth, and Push button Start (a gimmick, I know). My prediction is it will have 2 of 3, but I will lose on AWD.
  • A friend of mine was interested in the new Toyota Avalon but did not buy it because it didn't come with body side molding. He was quoted $350 to add it and was not told that it was a factory option.If you think this is not an important issue good luck to uou.Have a happy time getting your DINGS & DENTS.You must be in the body shop business. They are expecting a bonanza of DING & DENT business.
  • dp5dp5 Posts: 55
    I have the same hopes that you do for the new ES. The bluetooth seems like a great convenience. I agree that the push-button start is a totally useless gimmick but it has a really high cool factor. I live in a warm climate so I'll pass on the AWD but I'm looking forward to having more horsepower than I have in my current 2000 ES.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    I'm not sure why people are not understanding that bodyside moldings do not prevent all dings.
    People who have cars that they absolutely want to prevent dings on take great care not to park near other cars and do not rely on bodyside moldings.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    1. The ES will probably go for MSRP for a while then come back down

    2. The ES will probably increase slightly in its base price

    3. I personally would jump to the GS, but I admit that they are two totally different vehicles. The ES is a FWD midsize entry level luxury car much like my I35 and the GS is a RWD midsize mid price luxury sport sedan more like the M35 (although reviews have criticized it for not being sporty enough)

    You could wait and see what the new ES looks like, and then make your decision. If you like what you see in the new ES but don't want to spend MSRP, you could sign a short term 24 month lease on a left over 2006 ES330 (or now, during their December to Remember event) and then when prices come down in 24 months then go and get the 2009 model.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Wouldnt the 2009 model be out in 36 months, not 24 from now? The 2008 would be the one available in Dec 07.

    You scared me- 2009 is my 10 year High School reunion....

  • edr1edr1 Posts: 1
    What is the latest on the 2007 ES 330 in regard to pictures and engine specs?
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    oops sorry.

    yea. I think I meant 2008...
  • I agree with you that body side moldings will not prevent ALL dings and dents but by and large they will prevent the majority of them.Where can you park in a parking lot of a shopping center to be sure that no one will swing their door wide open and give your car a real good ding or dent? Acura offers body side moldings on some of their models as an added accessory but as of now Toyota does not for the new Avalon.Perhaps that will soon change if they know people object if they are not available. Talk to any car salesman and they will say "Oh we can put them on". What they don't realize is they are not a factory accessory.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    If you don't want any dings, you park at the far end of the parking lot, walk an extra minute to the store entrance and don't use compact spaces.
    You will still get dings even with body side moldings because other cars and trucks are either taller or shorter and depending on the shape of the other vehicle's door, it will hit your car at a different point.

    What good is just not having dings along the strip of metal where the molding is installed when you still get dings above, below, in front of or behind the ends of the molding?

    Dings could be better prevented with plastic body panels like Saturns have, but for some reason, plastic body panels are not catching on with any other car makers.
  • Lexus is on the media schedule for a world wide introduction at the Chicago Auto Show. Could it be the new ES!? Check the December update.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    what else would they be launching?

    I'm interested in seeing what Toyota and Honda are launching...
  • I can't link it but Vince Burlapp has more "spy shots" of the ES on his site. Do a search and ye shall find....
  • snowbirdsnowbird Posts: 120
    That's a very nice picture of a Toyota Windom. Would you know what year model it was and any engine specs for that car. I would be pleased if the 2007 Lexus ES350 would look something like this one but would prefer a slightly larger engine with AWD which would hopefully fix the rumored trans hesitation problem that seemed to plague the current and earlier ES models.
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