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Porsche Cayman S

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  • mannyljrmannyljr Posts: 20
    I'm going to post this on a couple forums here that fit the question. I've been shopping for a new car particurally a Porsche. I wrote a blog about, want to see it, here it is. http://mannyljr.typepad.com/lizardslair/

    Anyway, while my first "love" was a Boxster, I then switched to Cayman for overall better experience, in my mind. Though the longer I read about the engine issues along with the high yearly maintenace costs. My desire seemed to waiver. Then the Nissan 370Z came out, along with a first direct comparo, http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=10&article_id=7659

    Albeight, it was a 2008 Cayman S against a new Z, but it was fairly done and even though Cayman came in first on most points, the Z was close behind. A new '09 Z with Touring and the Sport Package costs around $38K. If you configured a new Cayman S with the same options, you'd get a car over $70K!

    Now, I'm not looking, nor could I afford a $70K car, but the Z has so much going for it at almost half the price. I have to pay attention. My real dilemma is between a 2007 Cayman S or a new 2009 Nissan 370Z.

    When I take into the cost of depreciation, yearly maintenace, and insurance costs, what is the better deal? I normally keep my cars a long time. My current "fleet" is my daily driver, 2004 RX-8 Grand Touring, 73K miles, runs and handles great, like new, but I'm wanting more oooomph!. There's the "family" car, 2007 Mazda CX-7, turbo 4 with Nav, 35K miles, the "utility" car, 1999 Honda Civic EX sedan, 140K miles, runs like a champ, and my "beater/project car", 1985 Mazda RX-7, GSL-SE, original owner, 170K fun miles.

    I want a car that will either be my main driver for the next 5+ years, so I want/need something to be a daily driver. Keeping maintenance costs reasonable. Allowing some never done, but really want to do autocross and track time.

    Thanks for reading my long post. I appreciate your comments and suggestions.
  • kmanskmans Posts: 20
    I don't think you are comparing apples to oranges. You can get a practically new 2007 Cayman S for around the same price as a 2009 Nissan 370Z and the Cayman S is a much better all around car. You should really drive them both, magazine articles are often misleading and often prompted by some manufacturers advertising spend with that magazine. I am also not sure what you mean by high yearly maintenance costs for the Cayman, it only requires an oil change every 15K-20K miles at about $200 a change if you do it at your dealer, compare that to every 3K miles in the Z andyou are talking 5-6 oil changes in the Z for every one in the Cayman. There are no engine problems with the Cayman for regularly driven street cars, the only engine problems reported have been from high amounts of track use in high stress situations. I can guarantee you that the Z will have its own share of problems in the same scenarios, so again you need to try to compare apples to apples. Go drive both and see what you like best that is the only way to know for sure which car is right for you. PlanetPorsche.Net can help you with Cayman items.
  • clemboclembo Posts: 253
    I agree with Kman, you need to look a bit deeper. Go drive a Cayman if you haven't yet then decide. It is probably the best balanced car on the road at any price.

    I don't know about your financial situation but I don't think that I'd want either car as my everyday driver. If you can pick up a used Accord or something else for the bad weather and to give yourself a break from a small car now and again I would do so.

    End of the day both are great cars. Although as you read in the comparo the performance numbers are close, they are not really in the same league. I have had my Cayman S for 3 years and it is the most fun you can have outside of the bedroom. ;)
  • dhsieh9dhsieh9 Posts: 44
    After seeing the new 2009 Cayman S with PDK double clutch & 25 extra horses, my heart sank to bottom since I bought a 2008 model last year. I thought I did all the research needed before buying it and I was totally wrong. Who would know what new improvements Porsche have in their sleeve every year?
  • kmanskmans Posts: 20
    There is a site on the web where you can find a Club of Cayman people who can tell you what Porsche has up their sleeve and prevent you from buying something you don't want to buy. :) Well at least they can make good recommendations. All you need to do is Google search for the site (not allowed to post link here). Now with respect to your 2008, it is still a wonderful car, enjoy it and don't worry about what comes out after, heck I'm still loving my 2006!
  • dhsieh9dhsieh9 Posts: 44
    Well, I still enjoy driving my 08' Cayman S every time. Maybe I can take comfort in that new changes typically take one or two iterations before car companies fix the teething problems. I hope my 08' Tiptronic will work flawlessly for a long time ..
  • buffyjamesbuffyjames Posts: 2
    You should feel pleased that you have a 2008 Cayman. The 2009's with DFI have serious problems with carboning. I understand that the problem is so bad that severe damage occurs...not covered by Porsche of coarse.
  • dhsieh9dhsieh9 Posts: 44
    I haven't followed up with the development of 09' Cayman new feature problems, such as DFI carboning. Curiously, double clutch is a rather new technology that has only been made available by auto manufacturers in the last 2 years, including Porsche. It is certainly reasonable for these technologies to go through teething and maturity cycle. However, DFI has been around much longer and it begs the question why Porsche has such a difficulty in making it reliable?
  • dhsieh9dhsieh9 Posts: 44
    My Cayman has now accumulated 4k+ miles. One annoying area I have constant experienced is its subtle but audible rear rattling noise. The dealer tried almost everything in their book, such as replacing rear light assembly and removing the plastic luggage cover (a real flimsy piece in my opinion). Nonetheless, the noise continues when driving on rough surface. Finally the Porsche district representative told me that it is common for all Porsche models to exhibit such a noise due to their stiff suspension. He asked me not to seek warranty repair again. Even more ridiculously, the rep said that this is disclosed in their warranty policy. I can't believe what I heard from the rep and I can't find any disclosure from their warranty booklet. I wonder if there is any current Cayman owner who may have encountered such an experience with their cars?
  • kmanskmans Posts: 20
    This response from your district rep is a crock and shameful. Have you tried calling PCNA HQ directly with this problem? There are a number of things that can cause rattles in the hatch, including a recall on a hatch "thunk" problem. Has that recall be performed on your car?

    Let me know if I can help further.
    Sincerely,
    Ken
    K-Man S
    www.planetporsche.net
  • dhsieh9dhsieh9 Posts: 44
    Yes, It was me who contacted PCNA directly. The rep showed up at the local dealer. No, there wasn't any recall I am aware of nor was I notified by PCNA on my 2008 Cayman S model. I just checked http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls/recallsearch.cfm and didn't find any outstanding recall for the 2008 Cayman S.
  • clemboclembo Posts: 253
    My Cayman has been rattle free but a friend of mine had one with the noise that you are describing. He had the rear rubber bushings or stops replaced that are on the bottom of the rear hatch. His car was a 2006, I'm surprised that this hasn't been addressed yet.
  • joliver2joliver2 Posts: 1
    I am currently being offered a lease on an 08 Cayman and I am trying to decide between an 08 with Titronic transmission and 09 manual.

    Does anyone know what a reasonable rate would be for a lease on a brand new 08 at this point?

    Are there any differences between the 08 and 09?

    WHat are the yearly manitenance costs for a cayman?

    Thank you in advance for all your help.
  • dhsieh9dhsieh9 Posts: 44
    I own an 08' Cayman S. The followings are my recommendation:

    Are there any differences between the 08 and 09?
    >> 2 major changes come into my understanding: 09' has PDK (replacing Tiptronic) & DFI. I have not heard of any outstanding issues with the new PDK. However, there are serious complaints about DFI where carbon deposit clogged the injector in 09's DFI. You may want to investifate it further.

    WHat are the yearly manitenance costs for a cayman?
    >> The routine service charged by my local Porsche dealer is outrageous. I have only about 4500 miles on my Cayman S so far. I changed the oil myself at the end of the 1st year with 2000 miles. The total cost was around $80 ( 8 botlles of Mobile 1 W40 synthetic + Porsche oil filter). If I should take it to dealers, they quoted me with something like $750 for the 1st year service (with additional visual inspection & computer calibration, etc., ). But, I seriourly doubt if those items are warranted when it has only 2k miles on it. Nonetheless, I may consider to do it at dealer's at the end of my 2nd year though.
  • medscamedsca Posts: 2
    It has been a goal of mine to purchase a porsche. I have finally gotten to the point in my life that I can afford the luxury of another part time vehicle. I am writing for opinion as well as:

    What would be the appropriate cost?
    What options should I not be able to live without?
    do i purchase via aucton, dealer( Certified), or third party?
    Is there going to be a major repair cost @ certian mileage on this vehicle?

    Thank you in advance for your consideration.
    :blush:
  • kmanskmans Posts: 20
    There are many resources here to help you find out pricing, but then to get actual pricing that dealers are giving to buyers you probably need to visit an internet forum. If you search you might find one called Planet Porsche that will have many examples of what people are paying, where they are getting their Porsches from and even what they cost to repair.

    I know that 2006 Cayman S's can be had in the 30's now.
  • medscamedsca Posts: 2
    Thanks Kmans. I will get onto that site today to further my research.
  • It will carry the clubs, but one of the bags has to be put on the back shelf behind the seats. The drivers have to be carried out of the bags, but after all of this, the answer is that it will fit. I advise sitting in one and trying it on for size. They are very comfortable seats. I have the optional all leather interior with electric seats.
  • I thought that the synthetic oil that you buy is not the same one that Porsche officially recommends and is used by the authorized Porsche service dealerships?
  • What a great sports car! I found this video that really shows the handling and speed of the Cayman S. This guy is filmed using two cameras and it's like you're inside of the car while watching the movie.
    http://vimeo.com/6739005

    Oly
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