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Honda Pilot 2006

natharnathar Posts: 10
Anyone seen any news on the 2006 Honda Pilot? This is the only thing I've found:

"The Pilot is set for a mid model change in 2006. From what we've been hearing the styling upgrade should be fairly extensive. You can also expect to see VCM (Variable Cylinder Management), Curtain Airbags and 2WD trim levels. XM you ask? We don't have a confirmation but we believe it will be standard on select models. The first 2006 arrivals will be in September."

I'm in the market for a Pilot, but I'd like to know what the 2006 model will bring before I decide on the 2005.
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  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Expect Honda to be hush-hush, so you won't have much info leaked.

    You can wait until August for the screaming deals on the outgoing Pilot...

    And check out the 06 Pilots too...
  • jwcostajwcosta Posts: 7
    Hi. I realize we can all speculate on what the 2006 Pilot will bring, but my hope is that Honda will allow for BOTH the navigation system AND the rear DVD entertainment system in one model, rather than making the consumer choose between them. You can buy a 2005 model with the navi system and then have the DVD system installed after the fact, but they install the actual DVD player under the driver's seat instead of in the dash. This is VERY inconvenient and I would never do this. Imagine being on a trip with young kids and they decide they want to continually change the DVDs? The driver would have to pull over to change them. Let's hope Honda gets this straight in 2006.
  • toasttoast Posts: 50
    Hopefully.... a boost in horsepower
    Side airbag curtains
    Standard XM radio
    New taillights
    Perhaps a Special Edition Model - more bells for fewer $$
    Not too much new anticipated

    It will need to compete with the new Hyundai Santa Fe which will be released later this year or early next. This company clearly has its eyes set on Honda and may be a formidable competitor.
  • lumber2lumber2 Posts: 184
    Why not get a dvd changer?
  • navigator89navigator89 Posts: 1,080
    it's the styling. Sure most vehicles in it's class look boring, (Highlander, Freestyle) but Honda's Pilot looks even more boring and bland than the other two. Hopefully they'll inject some style into a redesign. Honda went the right way with the Element's styling, it would help if they could apply that kind of design philosophy to the Pilot.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,174
    When the Pilot was released, there was no Freestyle, so the Pilot was really aimed at the mainstream Explorer. Comparing the two of those, the Pilot is very similar in styling IMO. We have a sister to the Pilot, the MDX. The MDX is a little more stylish but the pilot is much more spacious escpecially in the 3rd row. My point is that the Pilot is a utilitarian design, want more style, check out the MDX. Or even moreso, if you don't need seating for 7, check out the new RDX which should be priced around the same as a Pilot EX-L. Looks to be pretty sharp looking as well. :D
  • r2d2_3cpor2d2_3cpo Posts: 11
    Don't be surprised to see some similar styling to that of the Ridgeline show up in the 2006 Pilot...not that I am a fan of the Ridgeline's looks. :(
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    Are you basing this on the reports on HondaPreivew or some other intel?
  • durability05durability05 Posts: 142
    I do hope they restyle the Pilot to look more like the Ridgeline. I remember the 1st generation CRV, plain styling that doesn't offend anybody. To be replaced by a boxy utilitarian styled 2nd gen. CRV, The old CRV looks great, but its been years and just about all I have seen on the road look long on the tooth. I like the styling of my 04 EXL , it only has 7,000 miles and is 12 months old, A mid model redesign should make the 1st gen. Pilot not too common on the road. Great SUV , except for a suspect transmission and a cumberson rear hatch for a $30K vehicle.
  • Anyone has any more info on the 06 models potentially getting -
    1. VCM (as in the Ody)
    2. Stability Control (even the 05 CR-V LX has it standard now)

    How radical could a 'fairly extensive' styling upgrade be for Honda ?
  • tcp27705tcp27705 Posts: 14
    My '05 EX-L has stability control.

    As far as the style is concerned, I really like the 2005 Pilot. The 2 things I would have changed would be the addition of side curtain airbags and a better color selection.

    The '05 blue is pretty dull - I would much rather have had the blue that is available on the '05 Odyssey. The '05 red looks nice, but only comes with the ivory interior, which my wife did not like.
  • durability05durability05 Posts: 142
    I agree, the present Honda Pilots have excellent styling, almost like a timeless style that would not go obsolete, like the 1st gen. CRV. However some would prefer a more agressive utilitarian design , which I think only belongs to Truck base SUVs.
  • lfanlfan Posts: 61
    Referencing Consumer Guide Review of the '05 Pilot (link below), Honda listed some possible changes:

    1) VCM
    2) Side curtain air bags
    3) Standard stability control across whole line (not just EX-L)
    4) Some exterior trim updates(?)

    I purchased my '05 EX-L knowing these potential changes. It would be nice to have the additional features, particularly the side curtain air bags. But the '05 is a fine vehicle in of itself. There's always new features/content each year given the annual incremental updates that Honda and most other makes are now adapting during each model design cycle.

    http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/38135/
  • r2d2_3cpor2d2_3cpo Posts: 11
    More on gut feel than on intel. Seems that Honda would want to optimize costs by using components and design work already in the Ridgeline when they redo the 2006 Pilot. We'll see what happens :D .
  • kimw2kimw2 Posts: 1
    As a mom of two young children (1 & 3) I cannot agree with you more! I am in the market for a new Pilot and am waiting for the '06 model for a few reasons. (Side curtain airbags, better colors, exterior styling etc..) I like the EX-L and was set on the DVD player, but recently changed my mind. A friend of mine has an Odyssey with the DVD player and unless the screen is angled "just so" her 3 small children cannont see it. She is constantly pulling over to adjust the screen. Upon hearing this, it made my decision much easier...I'm going with the navi. system and an after market (non-Honda) quality DVD player with a larger screen. (BestBuy has a lot of great options). I'd like the DVD player to make my life easier, not more difficult!
  • jwcostajwcosta Posts: 7
    On the after market DVD players, where is the DVD loading system mounted? Is it in the dash (like on the Odyssey) or is it somewhere in the rear of the car? Are there any that can be mounted in the dash of the '05 Pilot?
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    Honda preview has posted some trim and color info. Looks like Amazon Green with green interior a la Ridgeline will be avaialble. All trims come in 2WD and 4WD. Now I wonder if it looks like a Ridge.

    For the front treatment (headlights, grill, that would not be a bad thing.

    It would be nice if they added some of the interior updates found in the Ridgeline too but that might be too much to expect from a mid model refresh.
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    I like the interior of the Ridge better than the Pilot - specifically the open dash with no center console. It seems to enhance freedom of leg movement - I am not a fan of the center console rubbing my leg.

    As for 2WD versions - as long as it has VSA with it, it is probably a good bet for states that do not see a lot of snow. And it would save $ on initial purchase and gas. But you would essentially have a cramped minivan in Ute clothes. Probably not great for resale.
  • pup975pup975 Posts: 13
    Does any one know how good the VCM is at saving gas? I heard that the Odyssey's VCM doesn't help a whole lot on gas. I am trying to decide between getting an '05 when they are going on clearance versus buying a 2WD '06 when they come out. I live in Alabama, so the 4WD really isn't necessary. I am assuming that I can get the '06 2WD for about the same price or a bit more than the '05 4WD, but save in the long run with the 2WD '06. Any thoughts?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,195
    Well, time will tell, but I honestly think the 2WD model is not going to do much better than AWD due to the fact that the AWD Pilot only runs AWD when it finds it necessary. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 90-95% of the time, its operating in FWD only mode. SO, I'm anticipating somewhere in the neighborhood of a 2 mpg increase in economy (mostly due to the decreased weight). In my opinion, the gas savings would not make up for the money lost at resale time (depending on the initial cost difference - but this assertion is based on your assumption that you can get an AWD now for the same as a FWD later ... in which case I think the AWD will be worth MORE later).

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • durability05durability05 Posts: 142
    By going 2WD, the savings would be probably between $2K to $3K over a 4WD Pilot, I think you will be able to get an "06" 2WD Pilot for less money than a "05" Pilot 4WD. I bought an April 04 Pilot EXL for $1500 above invoice. My sister bought a Dec. 04 "05 Pilot EX" for $500 above invoice, a much bigger savings and it was only 2 months into the new model year, somehow suddenly Pilot prices here in Southern California took a nose dive when the "05" came out. The SUV market is now soft, and will continue to be soft for a long time
  • zen76zen76 Posts: 12
    Any idea if we are going to get Michelin® PAX® on Pilot too. I would love to drive a car that can do 50mph on a Flat Tyre...
  • sportymonksportymonk Posts: 258
    You might want to read the Ody board for some of the concerns on the PAX tires. Unlike the Toyota run flats, the Michelins are a very unique size that means you cannot substitute another tire in an emergency. Also, the PAX tires are only capable of going so far at a certain speed. Some on vacations have been stranded by a flat on Friday night. Whereas with a regular tire, you could get another tire on Saturday, with a PAX, you are stuck until the nearest honda or Michelin dealer opens and then you better hope they have a PAX tire. Supposedly, all Honda dealers have ONE PAX in a box already mounted on a wheel (since it requires special and expensive equipment to mount PAX tires) waiting for somebody to come in.

    Frankly, I wouldn't have a vehicle with a PAX on it until they are more widely used. BTW remember that the Odys with PAX have no spare so when you hit the mileage limit of the PAX after it is flat, you are stuck.
  • aaj_hondaaaj_honda Posts: 1
    Does any one know when will Pilot go Hybrid ? Would love to see the increase in fuel economy ... What I am waiting for is..

    Hybrid
    DVD + Navigation System in same Pilot
    XM Satellite radio
    Wireless connectivity..

    When will this happen ?
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    Suprised we have not seen any spy shots of the '06 Pilot. Did I miss them?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,195
    just look at pics of the '03-'05.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    I thought this was the year of the mid model refresh for the Pilot and there are to be some interior and exterior styling changes rumored as well as 2WD models to go alongside the 4WD.

    I am hoping it looks a bit more like the Ridgeline in the grill and headlights and interior.

    At latest we will know in September '05 when the '06 models come out.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,195
    I'm not familiar with Honda's history, but is it normal for them to change the styling after just 3 model years? Seems excessive to me, but what the heck do i know?

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    It probably will not be a radical change. But Honda has a well known pattern of 5 years for each model with a large-sh styling and sometimes added feature change in year 4 and 5. The changes are often limited to headlight, tail light design but sometimes extend to new drive trains, horsepower bumps, audio features, etc.

    If you think about the current iteration of the Civic, you can see the pattern pretty clearly.

    Since this is year 4 of 5 for the Pilot, a change of some sort is expected.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,195
    don't forget they've added features every year so far, though. AND a horsepower bump was made last year.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

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