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Nissan Altima Real World MPG

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  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    FWIW- Driving moderately (smoothly keeping up with traffic) my 2010 Altima 2.5S sedan (~15k miles) consistently gives me 27-28mpg city/suburban (10-15mi trips) & 33-35mph highway (70-75mph). Those #'s are from actual gas used over last 5+k miles. IMHO that's good real-world economy for very decent car with lots of room (and NO hybrid headaches).

    My daughter has a 2008 2.5 SL and her mileages almost mirror yours, although he best hwy is usually around 32. I suspect thats because she pushes the speed limit. Around town, shes a "dead match" with your results...
  • One thing you might want to try:
    Take the Altima to the Nissan dealership service dept. and ask if there is a flash update for the OBC (On Board Computer). If not, ask them to do a factory reset on the Altima's OBC. That will force the OBC to re-learn your driving habits and make the proper adjustments to the engine and fuel economy.

    Mike :shades:
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    edited February 2012
    No one is angry or about to cry here. Don't be so melodramatic. People are complaining about Nissan and the poor gas mileage and this is not something unique only to Nissan. The reason they won't help is, there are plenty of us, the majority, not complaining to them about poor fuel economy, and in fact get better than the EPA estimates on the window sticker.

    I was just reading today about a small class action lawsuit about 200-300 people filled against Honda and Hyundai back in 2009 for not getting the EPA estimates on their vehicles. The problem is, both Honda and Hyundai brought thousands upon thousands of letters from consumers praising the fuel economy on the vary vehicles this small group of people were complaining about. Those people, thus lost the case.

    If you getting bad fuel economy, you either
    (A) are not driving as fuel conscious as you think
    or
    (B) have something very wrong with your specific vehicle

    Myself and many others have reported we are either meeting or exceeding the EPA estimates on the window sticker so these vehicles can get the mpg they are supposed to.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,876
    Very reasonable answer; however the original post was removed for profanity/personal comments. Hopefully the member will at least see your response.

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  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    Many thanks! I have no doubt some people are having mpg issues, it is just simply not something that Nissan alone experiences, as I pointed out with Honda and Hyundai for example. On a couple of the rare occasions where I spent a few days in a major city, I've seen my own mpg shoot down on my Maxima. I would not recommend the Maxima or Nissan as vehicles if you live in the city or do primarily most of your driving in the city. The mpg is going to be terrible.
  • Let me start by saying I know practically nothing about cars,
    and I'm here because I really want advice.

    I recently bought a 2012 Altima S. I might drive only 40% highway, 60% city.
    When I first refilled the tank, the car had just barely made 14 miles per
    gallon. That seemed likely to be a special case, probably the dealer hadn't
    *really* filled the tank when I first bought the car. But when I filled my
    tank the second time, I was barely up to 15 mpg. After 1500 miles over 3
    months, I've climbed "up to" 19 mpg. Apparently everyone on this forum thinks this, but really, I'm not an aggressive driver.

    Thanks for the ideas I've already seen here.
    "Resetting the OBC" might connect to what the dealer just told me
    about the car taking time to "relearn" my habits. Since the mileage
    is slowly creeping up, it seems like the car might have been set oddly
    at the factory, or whoever drove it on the lot those first 4 or 5 miles
    might have treated it like a race car, so: how long does it take the OBC
    to adjust to a driver? I just got back from taking the car in to the
    dealer, so I'd like to try other ideas before taking it back there.

    The dealership came up with only one suggestion, also mentioned here:
    warming the car up before driving it.
    How much difference does this make?
    How long should the car be allowed to run for before driving it off?
    (I'd hate to sit in the car while it idles for too long, that sounds like it
    would hurt mileage rather than helping it.)
    I've never heard anyone mention warming up a car in the morning before -
    is it because I live in Los Angeles rather than Buffalo or Butte?

    And what is the "break-in" period someone mentioned?

    I'd very much appreciate any information. Regular is almost $5 per gallon,
    and I seem to be buying at least 25% more than I "should" with this car!
  • mlmcgaheemlmcgahee Posts: 102
    Question: Are you resetting the MPG counter back to zero with each fill-up?

    If not you are seeing the average MPG since the last time it was reset and not the average MPG of one tank full of gas.

    Mike :shades:
  • FWIW, I have 59000 miles on my 2008 Altima 2.5SL and am currently getting 24-25mpg in mixed driving conditions. I noticed the biggest difference in mpg once I started keeping engine RPMs low (like under 2000 in town). I have never had a tune-up on this car, have a 65lb sub in the trunk and probably ~30lb worth of sound deadener material in the front doors / rear deck / side panels. Also have the 17" rims from the 3.5 model. When I'm in a rush, it's extremely easy to get the rpms between 3000 and 4000.

    During my break-in period, first 5000 miles I believe the mpg was pretty crappy. Worse than a v6, but it got better. Not saying this applies to your situation but just my 2 cents.
  • I am resetting it, but to be safe I'm calculating the mpg myself (miles since last fill/gallons to refill tank). I realize that can vary with time of day you fill the tank, gas station etc. but that has to cancel out over time, and anyway *every* time I fill the tank I'm getting low mileage figures so it's not some one-time fluctuation.

    FWIW, I believe the car is guesstimating the MPG in a way that produces slightly optimistic numbers.
  • That's interesting, thanks.
    Does anyone know why there could be a 5,000 mile break-in period with pretty crappy mpg, and what I might be able to do to get to the other side pronto?

    I'd love to use the OBC feature showing instantaneous MPG, but it's a little *too* instantaneous, oscillating rapidly between wonderful and awful as the road dips, I break or accelerate slightly etc. -- is there a way to adjust this feature from average-mpg-this-last-second to average-mpg-the-last-ten-seconds (or even minute)?

    Also, somebody suggested using cruise control, does that really optimize mpg significantly?
  • mlmcgaheemlmcgahee Posts: 102
    wow... It sounds like you've done everything you can do. I think my next step would be to have the Nissan service dept. reset the OBC and see if that makes a difference.

    Mike :shades:
  • I GET LOUSY GAS MILEAGE ON MY 02 ALTIMA TOO. IT USED TO BE GOOD, BUT IT HAS TAKEN A TURN FOR THE WORSE LATELY. LIFE SUCKS. :(
  • Okay guys these are simple reasons why the Nissan Altima (New ones) are not giving good MPGs. Knowledge is power and following is genuine verified information

    1. New cars DONT give good MPG because the engine is not "broken in" so there is a lot of friction in the engine especially the pistons which reduces the MPG and gives that feeling of car NOT being smooth so don't fret. It will become a LOT smoother after your first oil change. I recommend changing oil even if your car has not done 3000 miles. Just get it changes after 3 months.

    2. My new Altima 2012 S was giving me 16mpg to start with then slowly it crept up to 19mpg and then after first oil change it has gone up to 23mpg (combined) Please DONOT expect good MPG before 5000 miles due to reason described above.

    3. You can get the ECCU (engine computer unit) reprogrammed by the dealer but the engine re programs seeing your driving pattern for last 30 MILES. So just drive whatever way you want and it will reset it self.

    Happy with the description?? hope it helps.
  • ohlodeohlode Posts: 4
    Just turned over 3000 miles. I have never gotten less than 28.7 mpg and that is city driving. If I mix in some freeway or expressway driving for around 30 to 40% of total driving miles it gets up to 31.0 pretty easily. I'd say if you are not getting at least 28 then you have something majorly wrong with your vehicle. (or you are an owner of a competitive model and just spoof on this forum for fun...)
  • @ohload its wrong to make assumption that we all are spoofing - or crazy - or we dont know how to drive etc... there is something wrong with our cars indeed - that is why we are here- and its not a little wrong. My wife said something to me after our first oil change at the dealer ship - she felt the car didnt get the same milage as when it was new - so we did get better milage but somethign happened - significant enough for wife to feel somethign was wrong - i was not the primary driver on the car - though once i started to investigate it and take a few road trips - we cant get mroe than 27 in perfect weather - with a/c off and no load or luggage.. - i had her drive my 97 blazer for a week to her school as she does with with nissan - exact same routes - same class schedule same times - same gas stations - same driving habits - she averaged 19.1 mpg with the blazer - rated at 15/21; and 22.3 with the altima - 70% hwy est with blazer - far below combined est with blazer - by the same calc - i should get about 31.5 mpg with the nissan as used for the this.. its about 9mgh - its way off u can not account for this by any logic like a/c how u drive( without being arrested and melting your tires off) there is somethign radically wrong with these cars - and i think its criminal - i bought this car because of the rated gas milage

    i have owned about 8 cars in my life and everyone - every single one of them got what they were rated at- andi mean using the old pre 08 ratings.. the new rating on my blazer is 14- 20 not the 15-21 pre 08 but guess what? i get 15-21 plus or minus a half// always air on - air off - 1000 pay load - doing 60mph doing 95mph doesnt matter- i did the whole florida TP at 95 mph i got 21 - i did all of nebraska 10% grade up hill going west for 600 miles.. got 22.5 mph with full load and ac going and uphill all way.. there is so little differnce in the gas milage between my blazer and the nissan - its so negligible we dont concern ourselves anylonger with the way we use each and for what trips.. yet the altima is rated at about 170% of the milage rating as the blazer - and we are far far from that - its about 15% more than blazer - negligible in the grand scheme. on the bright side - its not worse than the blazer.. but make no mistake - the altima is not economical car it was made out to be - and many many people here are attesting to it - and i have read posts here about people who are heavy footed and drive dense city and getting good combined.. this are people who self admit their driving habits and get good - mpg and yet i am very tame with my habits.. also i am mechanical engineer - -so trust me - when i tell you there is somethign wrong with the car and not the driver - and that is to the idiot - that said make sure your brakes are not draging and freewheeling downhill and blah . omg - believe me and the rest of the people with crap milage - we use real gas from shell and Exxon bp. etc - i dont know if think we are making it from corn mash in the backyard or what .. anyhow - i am with the poor bastards here that are getting crappy milage- there are some little bettter than me - most about what i get - the dreaded 26-27 max on interstate - and 18- 21 in city ..... but it appears there some even getting worse.. being that it has been suggested that some have experienced significant increases in milage with altitude.. and some like me experienced better milage before servicing - would suggest there is somethign about some comp management of the fuel - that may be in play. the good news is this is fixable - we need to get our act together compile the data in a way that nissan can investigate and remedy the problem .. - because i just don t think it can be anythign else - the comp controls all this - and i agree an engine like this just cant burn fuel to this amount of consumption - without making miles.. - so my guess its not burning it .. or at least completely ..... somethign is wrong with the mix.. and sensing the environment.. - maybe they got a lot of cheap comp chips - or static eproms. that are bad.. just not saving the appropriate settings.. or perhaps its a group of bad trannys that came off line - that somehow - are using a lot extra.. inefficient gearing... though mine seems way to low - and seems to have adjusted itself this way over time perhaps from babying the gas pedal - which tooo me would seem to be more effiecient so long as their is no heavy labor to get the car going - but the car seems to have ample torque so - i dont feel its tranny.
    though , in my case, i feel its just a comp setting that has gotten goofed up somehow.. never the less its poor quality control and not user error ........ i am comfortable reading these people testimonials and dont believe they are fruit cakes or incompetents and drive poorly or dont know anythign - i pretty much agree with all of them - and am shocked that people come here and tell how tehy are getting great milage - its shocks us almost - but it also puts salt in the wound because not only are you getting what you are supposed and we dont - you make it feel like its our fault.... double injury.. well i think we start a petition and some documentation and maybe do like with hyundia and start a class action suit - but more i would prefer just to have my car fixed. anyhow i think its time to collaborate - - if anyone wants to be contact for this - i suggest they make it known here.. i am not sure what the forum rules are regarding this..

    i hope nissan makes good on this - because i am for one never buying another nissan and probably never another foreign job again - they just are not as good a american cars- and i know all over the net you will here about how bad americans cars are - but i suggest you go and read the reliabilty reports on the 97 blazer - and you see its poor - but i have news for you - mine is now 16 years old in two months.. and its like mint - it drives perfect as new - everthing functions 100% and it has cost me almost nothing in repairs - i put a 495 ignition switch in it - a new radiator - per the dexcool thing- cost total of 111 dollars ( nice about domestics much cheaper to repair ) sisters lexus 750 dollars.. i put one alternator less than foreign again.. and one winsheild wiper motor which chev paid for outside of warranty. 16 years less than 1000 bucks.. oh just last yaer - i put new ball joints because i had to pass inspection in utah - one of few states with rigorous inspection.. this maintenance not repairs.. cost me less than 350 .. oh also i get about 45- 50 k miles out tires on the blazer never had car that was this light on tires - and i dont mean i road them till steel - i mean the tire wear indicators were not full showing at this milage - no rotation necessary too. and i know what a lot of people are thinking - they are truck tires they have lots of rubber - well no - the stock tires that came on my blazer were infact car passager tire
  • chevyonlyfonchevyonlyfon Posts: 10
    edited June 2012
    the stock tires that came on my blazer were infact car passager tires - mich cant rembmber anyway i have a mich ltx on it now - same wear will get 50 without pushing it - guess how many miles i get out of my altima tires - with same treadwear rating.. about 18k...... i have got many of reason to go back to american.. and i will let you speak with my sister and brother how thier bmw 7 series and lexus es fell apart long before my blazer - both had trim and radios breaking, wiper and antenna motors and virtually all mechanicals on the car falling apart post the 11- 12 year mark - both unbelievably expensive to maintain for even an oil change.. - i am so sick of the notion that the reliability of american is bad - - i dont see it - you cant prove it by me - its just crap.. u cant prove it to my brother - he went and looked a chevy cruze yesterday to replace the gas guzzler 7 series.. junk he wants something that can do the 100mi per day he commutes to work.. he was going to go foreign - but i turned him to chevy 10 minutes after he drove the cruze he said it smokes the foreign boxes in quality . never the less - i am thinking of ditching my altima for cruze too. or anything american - i dont hate my altima - but i am burnt a bit i bought for the mileage - and this has really hurt me - mean while i have fallen more in love with my blazer - as its still beautiful and shiny as the day i bought it and everything works as the day i bought - it... no one that see s it can believe its 16 years old - it was not even garaged but 3 years of its life.. and lived in high humidity 9 years in the se - and 5 years in northern wis harsh winters.. plenty of 20 below starts.. and salt.. i am not here to push americant - but as i see problems with a fairly new car - and have the same problem 5 years now - i have grown to repect and love the car that had brought me 16 wonderful years and never want to get rid of her as long as she runs perfect - and i mean that - it starts and sounds like the day she rolled off the line - the 4.3 - basically the old chevy 350 with two cyl cut off .. good block - good tbi injection.... solid car.. just had to get rid of dexcool for the good ol green..

    anyhow - its a shame - that somehow the mileage can be this off- like i said i have owned 8 cars all got exactly what they should on the old rating system .. and if this one was rated 26 35 it should get it - even if the changed the rating . to be more conservative - i think they had to because the real world - roads are busier then they were 20 years ago.. but not because the ratings were wrong we are justspending mroe time ni traffic.. however - my trips n the altima used - for mileage purposes here were done free of any traffic as a control.. - and for anyone here who thinks we are all stoned and the way we maintain or use our cars- come drive mine for a week - you will have nice enlightenment.
  • chevyonlyfonchevyonlyfon Posts: 10
    edited June 2012
    after all the mileage i have driven - i can come up what i would rate this car at or it should have been rated it .. this is a

    19 city .. 26 hwy .... car.... its not awful its par for a midsize car..in the pre 2.50-4$ gallon days - or maybe late 90s.. era car... but for post ..3 bucks .. to suggest this is 25 city car - and plus 30 hwy car is a joke.. its criminal..

    its better to take the 1990 caprice classic full size chevy and put a 50mpg sticker on it.. by they way 1990 chevy caprice classic was rated at 19- 26 at the time - which i thought was amazing - and it head plenty of power was a huge car.. and did get this - back in 1990 - so .. 19 26 out of smaller car 16 years laters - and published and maketed in a 3$ per gallon era - is criminal- we be better have a car 50% large and this old chevy engine......... there is somethign way way way wrong here/////////// again - this gets what my truck does - or slightly better.. my truck would get this - with aerodynamics of altima.... maybe i will dump an old chevy 4..3 engine in the damn car..

    cars that i have owned that got better milage than my 07 altima:

    1983 camero (151 4cyl)
    1983 mazda 626
    1985 subaru turbo awd
    1990 ford mustang GT

    cars that i have owned that got less mileage than the altima ( only by 15% less)

    1978 ford granada (302 V8 manual tran) 18 city hwy 22
    1997 chevy blazer (4.3 4wd) 15 city 21 hwy..

    chances are if you stepped out on I80 in chicago in 1985 and open fire with an automatic weapon - chances are what ever you hit.. would have gotten better gas milealage than the 2007 nissan altima..
  • thats what i get - almost exactly i am extremely dissapointed....... and i am tired of dealers and websites saying that not real world the ratings are comparison guide.. well - all 8 cars i have own in the past decade got thier ratings... this one doesnt get but about 60 % -- we are not talking like a littel off its like half almost... i cant achieve on hwy - what its rated in the city.... combined driving is way behind city even .
  • 100% of the gas sold in this country contains 10% eth for about a decade now.. its says up to 10% but believe me its probably 10 to 12 % but it should be the problem - u think the epa got different gas when they tested the cars??special gas for them?
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,444
    Not even close to true. Many states sell gas without any ethanol.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,876
    You're dead right. Even in states that have ethanol blend stations, some areas do not.

    We live in a semi-rural area where a lot of homeowners have a lot of older vehicles, off-road vehicles, farming vehicles, and watercraft, some of which take diesel and others (particularly boats) that don't take kindly to ethanol. Thus, we have a lot of no-ethanol stations around here.

    In fact, as we drive down to our largest lake area, there are signs all over the place advertising ethanol-free gas.

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  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    Agreed. There are 4 stations within a 6 mile radius of my house that sell ethanol-free regular gas.
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    I bought a 2008 Altima 2.5 SL new. My daughter now drives it, about 15 miles each way to work, primarily highway route.

    She gets right at 30 mpg average, due to little in-town driving, and that mpg mirrors the mileage I got when I was driving it before she got the car from me.

    I believe you when you say you don't get that, and I have no explanation why.

    All I can say is that is indeed the mileage her Altima gets. It now has about 50K miles.

    Back in 2005 I bought a Chevy Aveo hatchback new, and for the 3 years that I owned it, it never came anywhere close to the EPA estimates, either city or highway. It was a real disappointment...

    I just happen to believe some cars, for whatever reason, just don't get the mileage others get...
  • i havent seen an ethanol free pump at any brand in a decade- taveling the whole south east midwest - and west.

    i use many major brands....... states i havent been in more than 10 years - northeast - south west north west and pacific coast - and texas.......states i have bought gas with only some undisclosed % if ethanol.. is wisconsin , illinois, indiana, iowa and nebraska ( special high % ethanol) colorado , whyoming, utah, nevada , oklahoma, georgia, missouri, tenn, alabama, florida, southcarlolina.. kentucky and ohio...... pls tell me what states u can get ethanol free gas? i have never seen a sign advertising ethanol free gas.. why would some states force ethanol gas - its not a smog thing - i dont live in smog areas - except knoxville has some bad air though because valley - but the main reason is not to add it because of smog - its to add it to reduce our dependency on fossil fuels and foreign oil .. they add the % they feel is safe to use in cars designed for gas.. though it can affect mileage - i guess - the truth is it doesnt in other cars- so what is special about the nissan that it cant use the same gas everyone else uses. again ethanol is added not because region but because oil consumption in general . so why woudl they be special to allow you to use pure fossil fuels anywhere ?? they dont.. i don tbelieve it.. never seen a sign for ethanol free. anywhere .. i think its more likely that some local laws dont require them to disclose additives less than 10% that is more like it.. anyhow - again i am tryign to tell you - this not well my gas is cheap - i have bought it rural places in city - in several states - all same.. i am sure u can get gas that can vary 1- 2 mpg or 5% or less of total milage - but we are talking i cant get city rating on the highway with ac off.. while peopel are driving the same car in the city getting mroe than i get i straight hwy.. this is not logical at any degree.. again i am saying its somethign broken with the car- not driver or gas- you can put of 2 - 3 or even 5 mpg for usage and gas - but i am talking i get combined wich is about 70% hwy at about 21 mpg - and my blazer gets about 19.. it geting 70% of hwy rating in this usage - i should be getting about 31 with car as others state they get here - so you chauk this up to gas??? comon - get a brain..... i get suv type mileage - i thought i was buying an economy car - per the ratings and yes comparing to other cars.. - oh and by the way i believe for first 3k i feel like i go tthis great milage without breakin even - it was right after first oil change it got bad and way bad - my wife said it first tank after service - so its possible they reset somethign if they checked it with comp. that is what i am feeling - and by the way the first mo i bought the car - when had almost no mileage on it - i taught my nephew to drive in parking lot and to park the car at the mall - according to the comp i got about 19 and some change mpg driving around a pakring lot - i was amazed...... we where averaging something liek 5 and some change mph .. according to comp now my car says - i average 26 mph and 20 and some change mpg............ - so tell me if this make sense.... somethign is breaking on these cars...
  • oh by the way - to the peopel who insist my milage is because ethanol gas - even if bought a gallon - and it was 10% eth.. i should still be able to get 90% of the rated mileage if the etha didnt burn at all as if it were water... and in that case- i should still be able to average above 30mpg on the hwy .. i cant.. i cant get within 20% mind 10% i am averaging about the same as my blazer in combined driving - i cant get 25 averge per tank mind 30 i am averaging 20 with 70% i use the car off hours to go shopping to avoid traffic and even with that - there is little traffic or lights betweem me and the main shopping district about 5- 7 miles average - 1 light - 45 zone one small hill - and ofcourse the parking lot turn offs at teh store. i must slow down for.. and the enterence for my community... its almost like i should be getting very close to hwy milage 100% i dont do stop and go driving and waiting in traffic....... and again even when i taught my nephewin the parking when i first bought the car i felt i got better milages turning and pakring and doing again .. and parallel parking and instructing i got better than i do now- somethign broke - right after first oil service i would almost say the dealer sabotaged the car if i didnt know beter or accidentally reset teh comp - but like people here i have to fight to convince them they will just say gas driving and ratings are not realworld blah meean while plenty of people here have good cars..... its a shame i got a lemon - never again buying nissan - because i cant even convince theier is a problem because of ignorance like here- and it should be an easy fix - because this car did get better much better milage before first service - what i shame......
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    edited June 2012
    Ethanol free gas stations in SC... Many, if not all states have ethanol free gas.

    http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=SC

    Also, ethanol has roughly 33% less energy per unit as compared to gasoline, if I remember correctly.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,444
    All stations in SD and Iowa have ethanol free gas. In SD only 89 octane has ethanol and it is the. Cheapest. 87 and 91 octane are always ethanol free.
  • like i said previously - doesnt matter - because if had no energy value - i shoudl still be able to get 90% of the rated .. that is what i said.... but with this you are telling i shoudl be able to get about 96.67% - i get less than 60% .. so no gas can make this much difference - you people are still missing the point - i guess i am dealing with morons - who think they know somethign - it sucks to live in a world of 100 iq morons when u are above 140.. - sometimes i wish i were ignorant like the some of the masses..

    anyhow - read my post - i said its more likely that some states have different labeling laws. and that nice link u posted has a link on it to a site called fuel testers that states not all states are required to label this - and some states have different rules for what % they have to label as eth-free gas - exactly as i stated ... in post above../ and to the following poster about SD AND Iowa - its exactly as nebraska the mid grade is a special super high - eth gas because they produce it there - and infact is cheaper than the other grades.. - infact the other grades have it - they just arent required by law in those states to list it because of the % ---

    and oh by the way - the link you sent me - is a site where users submit gas stations - these are people who think they are buying eth-free but are not because they are not required to label - based on state laws and if they are not required to disclose they can advertise it as such - and by the way i looked at those stations listed there most are off brand and unbranded gas- and yet everyone here is saying to use branded gas - not the cheap - that is why u have poor milage - now you are sayign to use the cheap gas - not knowing where it comes from and what is in it..? right?? i got it - perfect sense - for a lowly 100IQ.. sorry - i am sorry you people are so gullible , no wonder the dumb states are republican - i am sure u are replubincans no doubt..
  • chevyonlyfonchevyonlyfon Posts: 10
    edited June 2012
    @smarty 666 sorry - u miss the point too - and ur perspective is way off - i dont live in the city of live on the outer skirts of a suburb of a college town of 180k people - i wouldnt say i drive city at all - i can freely do 45 - 55 on all roads i travel and half i travel are interstate whicih i can do 85 np (traffc flow) anyhow - i have one light between me and the main shopping district - i work from home so that is not a problem - my wife is a student - and drives interstate to school - she is 2 miles from the ramp with one light - and 45 mph limit - and at the terminal end of the trip the school is right off the express light one main light and one at the school - this is the driving we have done with this car - plus a few day trips strict hwy.. yet our combined average is 20mpg . we never get stuck in stop and go traffic - i have habits to go to store off hour just because its less busy. so this is our pace .. what u describe has no perspective on what people here are complaining about - its people liek you who are keeping us from getting our problems with the car addressed. they are real - they are not us - i get 22mph where my blazer got 19...... so its not worse thank god - but its about 15% more over all - and i dont care how and when u rated the car. and if its for comparison or what ever they say milage may vary - the truth is the nissan is rated at about 65% more milage than the blazer and real world is 15% ... this is huge - for my habits..... i understand if its really city duh hnow much milage u getting sitting a traffic light?
    i get horrible hwy mileage too - peopel here are getting blended at 31 - and i cant get 26 on the hwy....... and u tell me driving habits - dont be silly. u get a perspective- half of us have lemons are we are getting screwed good - it wouldnt be so bad if all the caars were the same but think how we feel that half these cars achieve good milage. so we know its somethign broken - and then in the honda hyundai suits - they used other peple testimonies to dissmiss the case holy [non-permissible content removed] . common - what does it have to do that your car gets good milage - that mine is broken - that makes u think u dont have to fix it or pay for it.? tzhe problem is they are using the excuse its our driving - trust me - there are way too many people stating grandma drriving habits and ultimate conditions getting crap mileage yet peopel with heavy feet and fair blended conditions getting great mileage.. somethign is up .. u need to read all and digest and not just assume - .........no pespective.. pls get one
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    edited June 2012
    You seem to have an axe to grind.

    I made no comments on the mpg you get, or don't get.

    I simply gave you a reference point to find non-ethanol gas, which YOU said didn't exist any more... Your post # 269.

    While I'm sympathetic to those that, for whatever reason don't get the expected mpg they hope for, I'll make an exception in your case.
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