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Ford Freestyle Care and Maintenance

Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,018
edited May 10 in Ford
Discuss Freestyle routine care and maintenance here.

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  • bowcasterbowcaster Posts: 4
    I have about 2000 miles on mine, and am about to take the family on a road trip from Minnesota to Idaho and back to see the Parents. The total trip is about 3000 miles, and I'm wondering about changing the oil before or after. 2000 miles seems a little early, but after seems too late - any opinions?
  • nitromaxnitromax Posts: 641
    hmmm...good one. I haven't heard of any oil additives like Honda supposedly uses in their new engines. I'm assuming Ford uses standard oil in their new engines.
    If that's the case I would say better to change it at 2000 miles instead of 5000, but even 5000 is not that bad.

    my .02
  • willie19willie19 Posts: 139
    I agree with Nitro on this point.In fact I might even change the oil after our first 1000 miles.Sounds a bit wasteful but my rationale is that there will be quite a bit of minute wear in particles during the breakin period.
    Most of this should be picked up in the oil filter.I just don't like the idea of these little bits and pieces recirculating in the engine during a prolonged oil change interval.On my 2nd o/c I'll probably go 2-3000 miles again for a good cleanout.
    After that follow Ford's recommended procedure for a long engine life.Oil is cheap and good insurance.
  • nitromaxnitromax Posts: 641
    I forgot to mention.

    Being that you're going on a long trip, your engine will be operating at a sustained high temperature and, as willie said, there will be extra particulation in the oil due the new engine break-in. Those two variables can make for an early engine failure.....safe bet is to put some fresh oil in for the trip.
  • dgulinodgulino Posts: 38
    How about having it changed DURING the trip? Take it to a Ford dealer in Idaho while you're there.
  • bowcasterbowcaster Posts: 4
    Thanks for all the good advice folks. I will be a ways out in the wilderness, so getting it changed there (as much as my father would like to go along and chat up the guys at the local dealership) is not an option.

    Looks like I'll be getting the first oil change this weekend.
  • Ford does use standard oil - not break in oil. I purchased my Freestyle while on vacation and put 2900 miles on it before I got back home. The only thing that I was advised when I asked about "breaking in" was to avoid using the cruise control during the first 1000 miles and to vary the speed. Drive it 60, 55, 65 etc.

    I've now got almost 4000 miles on it and I'm still loving my Freestyle!
  • Was hoping some kind Freebie owner could take a peek in their owner's manual (or perhaps service guide) and tell me what the recommended interval is for oil changes in the Freebie and the amount of oil it holds.

    Also, what does is say about servicing the Transmission? Any mention of periodically changing the Transmission Fluid? Do you see anything else mentioned regarding servicing the CVT?

    As one who drives approx 30,000 miles a year, I'm trying to plan ahead to see what to expect.

    I know it doesn't need a tune-up till 100,000 miles.

    We're close to ordering a 2006 Limited AWD...Thank You! :) :
  • Right after I posted, I found the following link and answered some of my own questions:

    https://www.fleet.ford.com/maintenance/owners_manuals/default.asp

    However, it appears to be a generic service manual so if anyone has some specific info regarding the CVT Transmission that would be most appreciated! :)
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Posts: 1,106
    I would change it at 2000 miles.

    Then again, I've been known to change the first oil at 500 miles (not always, but I've done it).

    I try to change mine every 2500 miles. But occasionally I've gone 5000 miles.

    The standard use interval is 5000 miles and 6 months.

    The heavy use interval is 3000 miles and 3 months.

    I've never paid my attention to the months thing, but won't go longer than a year.
  • bruneau1bruneau1 Posts: 468
    Just don't take it to Jiffy Lube or the equivalent, or they may drain your transmission fluid instead. CVT fluid needs to be changed at 60,000 and checked before that by a qualified technician. There is no way for the consumer to check the CVT fluid by way of a dip stick.
  • mkyoungmkyoung Posts: 5
    What is the feeling about synthetic oil? Here is where my brain is at. I have the 2005 Freebie AWD. AWD is harder on the engine and transmission than FWD. I was thinking instead of using standard oil at 5K intervals to use a synthetic at either 5K or 10K intervals. Synthetic is suppose to last much longer that 10K, but I would change it at 5K/10K. I'm thinking (hoping) that the engine and drivetrain would last longer. WDYT?
  • nitromaxnitromax Posts: 641
    In a perfect world, a fresh supply of oil constantly replenishing itself would be the best option. That tells me that the more often you change the oil, the happier your engine will be.
    That being said, synthetics are designed for higher miles so changing it too frequently would be a waste of money, but I would say 5,000 miles is reasonable. As long as it doesn't strain your budget and the oil doesn't get dumped down the drain.

    That's what I would do when I get to that stage. I'm only around 800 miles so I have a ways to go.
  • magdadmagdad Posts: 21
    The owners manual says to use at least a synthetic blend, not regular oil. For me, I'm going to bite the bullet and go with Mobil 1.
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Posts: 1,106
    The Motorcraft 5W-20 is a synthetic blend.
  • magdadmagdad Posts: 21
    Yes I know, but the post above asked about the value of synthetic and I wanted to make a potentially non-warranty voiding point. I'm a lifelong Castoil man myself and am entering uncharted territories with synthetics.
  • vrmvrm Posts: 303
    Can I use regular gas in the Freestyle or does Ford recommend Premium gas?
    Thanks!
  • nitromaxnitromax Posts: 641
    It does not require premium. I personally use mid grade.
  • magdadmagdad Posts: 21
    The owner's manual says to use 87 octane.
  • The use of mid-grade or premium fuel in an engine designed to use 87 octane regular fuel is nothing more than a waste of one's money. You are not "treating" your engine.
  • In most cases, using a higher octane gasoline than your owner’s manual recommends offers absolutely no benefit. It won’t make your car perform better, go faster, get better mileage or run cleaner. Your best bet: listen to your owner’s manual.
    The only time you might need to switch to a higher octane level is if your car engine knocks when you use the recommended fuel. This happens to a small percentage of cars.
    Unless your engine is knocking, buying higher octane gasoline is a waste of money.

    Using synthetic oil is personal preference. If you are going to keep you car for many years generally synthetic oil will help an engine last longer. Also the oil tends to start lubricating faster on startup, especially in cold weather. Plus synthetic oil will also increase your fuel mileage a little.
    I have used Mobil 1 for many years and am a true believer. They even have an extended mileage version up to 15000 miles, but not in 5W20 yet.
  • jackiefjackief Posts: 10
    We plan on getting an extended warranty in the near future, dealer wouldn't match the online price so we didn't fold it in with the purchase.

    Came across one tidbit which seemed unusual to me, thought I would pass it along. The extended warranties cover rental cars when you are in for warranty work. The basic/included warranty does not. That struck me as strange, as I think of extended as just prolonging the time, not adding extra stuff. Service guy confirmed this and said that the rental would be active during the regular warranty period as well. Since my commute makes either the closest dealer to home or the closest dealer to work not the most convenient for service, and the fact that there are no service loaners, we'll get the ext warranty in the near future.

    Only one defect noticed when we picked up the car, which they didn't have time to fix then, which led me down this investigation. One of the 2nd row seats is in a locked state and doesn't move forward and back on its track. Service guy did take a look and confirmed problem. We're going to look for other defects before appt on Monday, if this is the only problem I'll be happy. :)

    Jackie
  • nitromaxnitromax Posts: 641
    Came across one tidbit which seemed unusual to me, thought I would pass it along. The extended warranties cover rental cars when you are in for warranty work. The basic/included warranty does not. That struck me as strange, as I think of extended as just prolonging the time, not adding extra stuff. Service guy confirmed this and said that the rental would be active during the regular warranty period as well. Since my commute makes either the closest dealer to home or the closest dealer to work not the most convenient for service, and the fact that there are no service loaners, we'll get the ext warranty in the near future.

    I had an extended warranty on my 97 Exploder which included a loaner or rental car whenever it was in for service.
    When the engine exploded, they gave me an "allowance" of $30 per day for a rental car. That got me into a Chevy Calalier for 32 days while the engine was being ordered and replaced. Gee, what happened to the "comparable vehicle"?....a compact? gee thanks Ford

    Come to find out that the rental, even though it was under $30 per day ($29 I believe), also had daily taxes and other fees that put it up over $30 per day.
    At the end of the rental term I ended up paying close to $200 in fees for my "free rental"
    GRRRRRR :mad:

    I guess I could have rented a SUB-compact for $19.99 per day....hind sight is always 20/20.

    So you might want to verify how much allowance is available for a rental car.

    Funny, when I drop my RSX off for service and I can't hang around and wait, they give me a loaner TL to drive until my lowly RSX is ready. (What's wrong with this picture?)
  • jackiefjackief Posts: 10
    we're not expecting the same level of pampering from ford as we got from acura or volvo. I had been getting free loaners for any service (sched maint, etc) for anything longer than the 3500mi services. I think this was something they gave to people who bought at that dealer which we had done. In fact, our wagon had been a service loaner which they sold at 8000 miles. Same for our Acura, free loaners.

    So we did factor this in. We are taking a step down from the luxury brands, but hope in the end we spend less overall and still get a decent driving experience and few troubles.

    The extended warranty covers $28/day rental. Our schedules are such that we can work around the lack of a rental, its good to have the option. If we had to have it, we'd add it to our insurance coverage. I think the insurance (Allstate) reimbursement amount is in the same range.

    We're planning on getting an ext warranty anyway, so this is something we'll have available if we need it before the reg warranty expires.

    the whole warranty booklet is online here which makes it handy for searches.
  • nitromaxnitromax Posts: 641
    The extended warranty covers $28/day rental. Our schedules are such that we can work around the lack of a rental, its good to have the option. If we had to have it, we'd add it to our insurance coverage. I think the insurance (Allstate) reimbursement amount is in the same range.

    As long as you know up front what the rental fee covers. I'm going to be doing the same thing with my Freestyle that you are at some point also.
  • bruneau1bruneau1 Posts: 468
    I use only one of the TOP TIER gasses, and in particular, Chevron regular. I have never had any kind of fuel related problem with Chevron in any of my cars. Some of my friends who have used other gases have had to replace many fuel injectors. Other well known TOP TIER are: Shell, Philips, 76, Don't remember if Mobil is on the list.
  • willie19willie19 Posts: 139
    " The Motorcraft 5W-20 is a synthetic blend."

    barnstormer64:
    Too bad we can't get the U.S. product above which is made by Conoco Philips.Does yours show it meets Ford spec WSS-M2C930-A rated API SM with the ILSAC GF-4 designation? Our Motorcraft 5W-20 sold at Ford dealers still show the API SL rating to meet Ford spec M2C153H for 2001 model year 2001 and newer Ford vehicles.

    Ford specification requires better test limits than what ILSAC allows for in their published standards. I've also learned that the GF-4 standard replaced the Sequence IIIF test with the Sequence IIIG test, and the IIIG test has even better viscosity thresholds than Ford originally allowed for in the 153-H spec. As I understand it, GF-4 was intended to improve emmisions by reducing the amount of the zinc additive in oils, among other things. So it looks to me like Ford simply updated their 930A spec for 5W20 oil to reflect the revised, and tougher, tests in the new GF-4 standard, which net, probably results in a better quality oil for us consumers.

    The strange part of this to me is that our Motorcraft oils are made by Imperial Oil of Canada (not stated as a semi synthetic) and their own Esso Extra 5W-20 already shows a API SM rating and GL-4 on their website but not sold in WalMart or our Canadian Tire stores.I believe they're available in Esso's bulk oil facitities.Not sure whether Esso formulates this differently.

    Another thing that hit me was I took our Freestyle to the dealer for an oil/filter change as it just went over the 1st 1000 mile mark. The dealer adamantly refused to do this as they claimed it was too wasteful and best to follow Ford's schedule at 3000 miles.Did not make a big issue of that since it was going to be a complimentary oil change and they said to bring it back at 3000 to get the free service. That's ok with me as it gives us some extra time to find out anything else that needs fixing .

    As it turned out I changed the oil anyway when I got home with the Motorcraft 5W-20 I bought from the parts dept and while doing that I noticed some slight oil seepage from the edge of the CVT oil pan. Numerous 8mm bolts to check and a few were tightened a wee bit. No further leakage and that's the only "defect" I found so far.

    Love the Freestyle.
  • willie19willie19 Posts: 139
    "I use only one of the TOP TIER gasses...."

    I often wonder if this TOP TIER qualification is not some kind of advertising gimmick and that these members have to pay some form of royalties to use the name.I also read somewhere that Mobil and many other big names are NOT on the list.

    Most gasoline suppliers sold here appear to get their gas from a common source and that each supplier blends in their own additives. I buy my gas wherever I can get it cheaper as prices of late can fluctuate by up to 20 cents/litre and this happens almost every other day.
    Mostly I get mine from the independents eg Costco, supermarkets,etc, but my criteria is that they have to be clean looking and well maintained. Never had any bad gas problems. The only time I had bad gas was in a top name station in California (run by some unsavory looking characters) which was undercutting everyone else and not very well maintained. Took a chance and should have known better.
  • bruneau1bruneau1 Posts: 468
    Perhaps the gas is the same, although there are many formulations depending on area. however, there is no doubt that the additives are different and they are patented. The fact that the chief manufacturers use Chevron for their EPA tests tells a lot. Top Tier means that all octanes contain sufficient additives, not just premium. Several of my friends with GM cars have had fuel injector failures using cheap gas with unknown additives. Their service dept told them to use Chevron. I will continue to use Chevron. I know what I am getting and the additives have proven worth. Costco, Safeway, Arco??? Who knows.
  • willie19willie19 Posts: 139
    I don't disagree with what you said. I haven't been down south for quite a while now (much to do with 9/11) but in the past whenever I was there I would choose Chevron or Shell as my favourite gas.Also I would get a few bottles of Techron to use 2 or 3 times a year as a fuel system cleaner.I understand Fuel Power is also a great fuel system additive but I have not seen it sold here in our automotive stores.

    I'm sorry for sounding biased but I believe generally speaking our Canadian gas is better quality than U.S. gas. That's just my experience and some like Arco's which is oxygenated , may burn cleaner, but it sure produces lousy mpg.I think folks here are more cost sensitive over gas prices and if a certain station sells bad gas they're toast as far as getting any further business.

    BTW what kind of mpg are you getting now with the Limited FWD which as you know was what we wanted in the first place.The wife's Ltd AWD just went past the 1000 mile mark and the computer records about 19 mpg U.S. gal overall.I try to use different excuses to add some extra miles for the mpg's to improve but this will take some time.She won't trade with me for my 2001 Explorer Sport Trac. :cry:
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