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Chevrolet Corvette Z06

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  • gbjerkegbjerke Posts: 158
    6,000 units? Motor Trend and I think Road and Track said 10,000 units...and yes, I may have to wait a bit like I did for my '01. May '01 it was sticker plus 3,500; end of May it was sticker. Bought in early July for 5k under so a 2 month wait saved me 8,500. Granted, '02's were about to hit the ground but 20 ponies and HUD did not make it worthwhile.
    Same with my '03. Bought in August '03 when the '04's were about to hit. However I bought for invoice less the rebate at the time.
    I wonder what the production numbers were for '01. Maybe you have that info.
    When I first heard of the content on the C6 Z I toyed with the idea of the "instant gratification" and there are several dealers out there selling for sticker so the temptation was there. However, I live in snow country so another couple months or so of driving and it will be put to bed for the winter. Just not worth it if one considers the potential deals out there next April/May.
  • According to the chevylaunch website which is accessible for dealers only. They said that Bowling Green is capable of producing 33,000-34,0000 Corvettes per year. They are estimating 15-20% will be Z06. Supplies will be tight. Dealer a :) llocation is based on 2005 years sales. Chevy stated that there will be some certified Corvette dealers who won't get a single Z06. The difference between the 2001 and the 2006 is the 06's are sold before they get here, the 2001's weren't. Laws of Supply and demand. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens.
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    2001:
    1YY07 Base Coupe $40,280 15,681 44%
    1YY67 Base Convertible $46,805 14,173 40%
    1YY37 Base Hardtop - Z06 Model $48,0555 5,773 16%
    Total: 35,627 100%

    2003:
    1YY07 Base Coupe $43,475 12,812 36%
    1YY67 Base Convertible $50,375 14,022 40%
    1YY37 Base Hardtop - Z06 Model $51,275 8,635 24% Includes Comm. Ed.
    Total: 35,469 100%

    2004:
    1YY07 Base Coupe $43,735 16,165 47%
    1YY67 Base Convertible $50,735 12,216 36%
    1YY37 Base Hardtop - Z06 Model $51,585 5,683 17%
    Total: 34,064 100%

    So, the 24% was very high, but the 2006 is filling new demand and so could
    exceed that. As noted, it will be interesting to watch. Not yet ready to
    pony up sticker, which I'm thinking with basic options and tax will be $75k+-.
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    check out automobilemag.com and autoweek.com for Z06 pictures.

    The new LS7 is hand-built

    check these links

    (note the signature)

    LS7 link two

    LS7 link two
  • gbjerkegbjerke Posts: 158
    Not so sure I agree with your comment on the "difference between the '01 and '06 is the '06's are sold before they get here, the '01's weren't." Remember, the '01 Z06 was the original (other than the early 60's option) and they came out with an additional 35 ponies as compared to the standard C5, lighter weight, firmer suspension etc.---it was an "unknown quantity" as such so they may not have been "pre-sold" per your definition. However, the demand was huge once they were introduced and the dealers priced it accordingly. It was sticker + everywhere. It was 5-20k over all over the country.
    The '06 content was well publicized long before introduction and it is GONZO so many were "pre-sold" per your definition, BUT the buyers are going on the history of the Z06, not a new and unknown model.
    Sure, there are a ton of "gotta have it now" guys and they are your "pre-sold's". Many others will wait it out, myself included. We well know the resale value of Vettes drop like a rock and that is big enough of a hit to have a performance car, and to pay a premium when it comes out is for a select few. The new Z is getting dangerously close to 911 range for price and while the Z will outperform it, many look to the value after say 2 years, and all of a sudden the extra for a 911 at inception, returns these $$$ PLUS.
    Just my thoughts.
  • gbjerkegbjerke Posts: 158
    Starrow-- Thanks for the production numbers. Looks like 5,700 for '01; 8,500 for '03 and 5,800 for '04 so it does not appear that the C6 Z06 numbers will be much different.
    Also, your pricing numbers are right on. I'd want the 65,800 base plus the 2LZ package plus the polished wheels and that turns out to be 70k. Add tax and you are right at 75k.
    It's a bummer to wait but will see what the market is next spring.
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    The new Z06 does cost more than the C5 Z06, but Porsche hasn't fixed the RMS (rear main seal) leaks of 911s (except for the GT2, GT3, and Turbo which have a much more expensive and racing-derived engine) and Boxsters.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    On Saturday I test drove a new 2005 911 S Cab (997) with my wife and kids in the rear seat. I was told the RMS problem was overblown and that, with proper break in, had not been a problem in 996's and Boxters. In fact, there was an absolutely pristine 2000 Boxster on the lot that had been recently traded on a 911. It had 155,000 miles on the odometer - and was driven as a daily driver nearly 30,000 miles a year. Never so much as anything other than routine service and oil and tire changes and it was still on the original clutch. The interior looked no worse for the wear and one might have thought the car had 15k miles on it, instead of 155k. Please advise me as to whether you know any sources of information on the RMS leak issue and how it might have been (or not) addressed in the 997. Thanks.

    It appears that the new Corvette L7 has the raw performance to match or beat many more expensive cars and exotics. However, I am still skeptical of build quality and can't get past the Chevy level fit and finish. I admit am unlikely to use more than 80% of the capability of a 911 S without professional training, so "uber-performance" is not my holy grail. Otherwise I would be on the wait list for a Ferrari 430. But as good as the Corvette performance looks on paper, I don't want to grip a Malibu type steering wheel (someone else's analogy here) or look at a dash that has the aesthetic quality of my 1978 Datsun. And I really hate rattles and squeeks. It just seems that as long as the Corvette falls under the GM umbrella, it will be plagued by these shortcomings. Perhaps GM needs to spin off the Corvette??
  • gbjerkegbjerke Posts: 158
    You bring up some legit questions that have been discussed on other Vette forums.
    Fit/Finish--not even close to Japanese/German standards. Not so much the "fit" aspect, but the paint job is terible. Orange peel a novice painter would be ashamed to turn out.
    Many have panned the dash as "cheap/plastic looking". Frankly, I don't mind it a bit. It's functional and I could care less about any wood trim/chrome/brushed aluminum/carbon fiber etc. Seats, at least in the C5 version suck. Very poor bolstering for a sports car. Maybe they have corrected in the C6.
    As far as "rattles/squeaks", I think Chevy remedied that in the original C5 in '97. The previous generations of Vettes were notorious for these but I have seen no complaints for the C5. I had an '01 Z06 and now an '03. 50,000 miles between the two of them and have NEVER had a single squeak or rattle.
    To me build quality is just fine, in fact, it exceeded my expectations. Paint is a bummer but my Z's have been yellow so not so noticable. Have always admired Porsche paint. I swear, they look like they were "hand dipped". I suspect each one has been wet sanded and buffed before it leaves the factory whereas Chevy lets robots spray the color and let it fly out the door.
    Then again, I like the Vettes for their performance vs. the cost factor and other than the above complaints, I have been a happy camper.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Thanks for the reply and congratulations on getting the car that suits your needs and preferences. We should all be so lucky. :)

    I have just given the go ahead on a 911 S Cab. Getting a substantial discount on a leftover (but new) 2005. However, given that it's about the same as I've paid for my last 2.75 cars, I may still have some buyer's remorse. At least I can pop my girls in the back seat for a family ride to offset my guilt!
  • gbjerkegbjerke Posts: 158
    Hey Habitat---forget the "buyers remorse" bit.
    The 911 S Cab is an awesome sled with a "fun factor" built right in!
    My wife may disagree, but my mantra is that you only go around once in life so one damn well better enjoy the ride. How's that for an easy solution!
    Enjoy your new ride!
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    The 2006 Z06 doesn't have the Malbu's steering wheel.

    Chevy will likely upgrade the interior of the C6 in a few years. No private owner has even driven their new C6 Z06 to test for rattles.

    Yes, I do know of sources of information on the RMS leak issue and how it might hasn't been addressed in the 997.

    The Corvette is sold in Cadillac dealers in Europe. It has 512 hp (DIN) over there.
  • vinnynyvinnyny Posts: 772
    Gents:

    I'm considering buying a leftover '05 C6 but have some concerns. The car I'm looking at doesn't have the sports seats--are they worth waiting for on an '06? Second, I haven't seen any good info on changes for the '06 model--does anyone have details or a link for info on the changes? Finally, the car I may buy has zero options--are there any "must haves" that make it worth ordering (e.g. upgraded stereo or Z51)?

    Thanks
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    I guess it depends on what you want and even then it's personal. Spending the price of a Vette I wouldn't want one without the HUD (heads up display) but that is just from spending 4 years in a C5, very addictive, and I look for it in all else I drive and am disappointed. As to what comes with it, the sport seats are nice but the pass through for harness is the biggest deal and that may not be an issue. The Z51 is a function of if you see yourself ever going to the road course, if so you sure would be happier with it if you have a 6sp, with auto, not sure it's a big deal.

    I think a base Vette is probably for someone who wants performance, isn't worried about any extra comforts, like memory seats and mirrors, and wants to unload it after a couple years knowing that the market sometimes will just be looking for lowest price available.

    Not sure the '06 has many real changes vs. '05. But, I'd want a pretty good deal to take a no option unit off the floor, especially is it sat for any time.
    Randy
  • I agree with Randy on the HUD. I consider it the best feature of my 04 aside from the torque. Can't tell if the Magnetic Selective Ride has been worth the money since I have never taken the dial off of it, and I never rode in one without it. But the HUD is a must. :shades:
  • vinnynyvinnyny Posts: 772
    Thanks for the input. I hadn't thought much about the HUD, but I really don't care about the other stuff like memory seats and mirrors because my wife will only get to drive this car AFTER SHE RIPS THE KEYS FROM MY COLD, DEAD, FINGERS! (Especially after she ripped the front air dam off my 04 330CiC). So, the settings should remain constant until the next owner changes them...

    I apologize for posting to the wrong board--I'll copy to the "All things" board so I don't clutter up the Z06 discussion.
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    The 2006 Corvette has a new 6 speed automatic transmision.
  • gbjerkegbjerke Posts: 158
    So, you are at 5k over sticker. Exactly the options I want and LeMans is my second choice of color. Am sure it will go, but the Vette gurus will wait it out til the pricing settles. BTW, there are several dealers who are going sticker only.
    Good luck!
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    Great car for someone who didn't plan ahead. The dealers going sticker mostly have waiting lists from last year, I will admit, so getting in line now will take some time. Can't blame anyone for wanting to maximize return on a limited availability car so I too wish you luck. Instant gratification for me will have to be taking the stock engine C5 coupe to the track and seeing if I can pass a few things, maybe even something more powerful or more expensive. Mod the driver, then a new Z06 might not be lethal!

    Wish I could post a link to the Viper wreck at Spring Mt. Motorsports Park last weekend, no one seriously hurt, but it's on another site that can't be mentioned. Having more HP than training is not a good thing!
    randy
  • gbjerkegbjerke Posts: 158
    Randy--
    How right you are regarding "having more HP than training is not a good thing."
    Just returned from a weekend at Road America and you see it every school.
    Have some interesting video from a couple years ago. Lining up in pit lane, had the camcorder going and you can hear this awesome rumble coming up along side me. The lumpy cam could be heard big time and along side me comes a highly modded Viper. Gonzo adjustable wing on the back; Hoosier tires...all I could think was "I hope he goes first or I'll have to wave that bad boy by me before I get out of the pits." I get the "go" ahead of him. I round the first turn and look in my mirror...he is a ways behind me so after turn 3 I look again as 3-5 is a long straight. He is further behind. Never saw him again during the 1/2 hour session. My son was timing us...turns out I was picking up 5-7 seconds per lap on him.
    Certainly, his car had the advantage but as you indicate, if the driver is not accomplished, all that horespower just won't cut it.
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    Petit Le Mans is a 1,000/10 hour race, whichever comes first.

    This will be the third time that the two Corvette C6-Rs have competed with the new Aston Martin DBR9s.

    check this link

    C6-Rs on front row for Petit Le Mans
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    Oliver Gavin, Olivier Beretta and Jan Magnussen won the GT1 class of the 8th annual Petit Le Mans at Road Atlanta in the number 4 Corvette C6-R.

    check these links

    Petit Le Mans

    Corvette Racing
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
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    Jan Magnussen and Olivier Beretta

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  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    The 1963 Corvette had a Z06 performance option. Only 199 were built and featured stiffer suspension, more powerful brakes, and other cool stuff. It was intended for racing. A Z06 won a race at Riverside, California shortly after it went into production. Also, 1963 was the only year for the split window.

    The Z06-specific master cylinder is shown in the first picture.

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    This Z06 has the rare 36 gallon fuel tank.

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    2001 and 1963 models.

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  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    Just spent the day at Sears Point Raceway and one of the other entries was a C6 Z06, Black and rear end rubber is so wide it looks mean just sitting in the pits. The owner had driven the car back to the SF area from Chicago and had a 2,300 mile trip, in addition to some 12's at the Sacramento drag strip the prior week, just messing around. He did 1.80 for 60 ft on the run flats. Nice to see that there are some that are going to use it for what it was built for. He wasn't running timing so didn't get any lap times.
    Randy
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    It is next Saturday (the 15th). It should have even closer GT1 racing than Petit Le Mans (4 vs. 9+ hours of racing).
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    Or why people have given up on local dealers. Crown Chev, local in Dublin, CA has the new Z06 for $30k over MSRP and according to one local Corvette guy they turned a friend of his down for $20k over. I'm sure they are a low volume dealer so they don't expect to see very many and they can afford to let it sit since it will probably bring in traffic. There are internet dealers taking orders for MSRP, some people just are slow learners.
    Randy
  • blkhemiblkhemi Posts: 1,717
    great video xkss
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