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Chevrolet Corvette Z06

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  • gbjerkegbjerke Posts: 158
    Starrow----
    You and me both. I think Chevy hit a grand slam on this one.
    Had an '01 Z and moved to an '03. Pretty awesome cars but with some complaints. It appears GM has covered all these and more although I have heard little about the seats which really sucked in the C5's.
    Mega horses/torque; maintained light weight; trans/diff cooler; dry sump' 6/4 piston stoppers...the list does not quit. BANG FOR THE BUCK is a given.
    So now I salivate....pay thru the nose now for that proverbial instant gratification or wait 6 months and save 5-10k.
    I'll have one...just depends on whether the testerone over rules the brain!!!
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    While I agree with both of you, I don't think the "bang for the buck" phrase holds true for the Z06 as it does with a WRX. The new Z06 uses carbon fiber, aluminum, magnesium, titanium, etc in ways that previous Corvettes have not. It really has moved up a notch.
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    Problem with performance on the cheap .... I see lots of WRX's and Evo's at the track along with most everything that drives and those two are a step above until you get to the Vette. But, they are ralley cars and on the track they have a high COG and I've seen lots of Evo's roll, several WRX's into walls and hills, it is way beyond the percentage they make up of the on track cars. Seems that combination attracts more desire for speed than brains to harness it at the limits and not beyond. The Vette, while I've seen a couple and heard of several into walls doesn't seem to exceed it's on track percentage with it's off track excursions.
    As for the new Z06, I can only hope that remains to be true! But it is a great bang for the buck, while still an expensive ride and that just means the performance is way beyond street normal. I would be very careful in something that far beyond my couple years of track experience.
    Randy
  • Just back a little while ago from the 11th Ann. celebration at the NCM in Bowling Green. One of the things you could try for today was a ride in the new Z06. I didn't try for that raffle, but about 16 people did get rides. They had 4 of them in different colors taking the people out on a nearby road. I was helping with the parking of cars for event, and got to see them rip by as they blasted out from the gate. Nice sound, and they appeared pretty quick to say the least. They were gone round the bend in a flash. Dave Hill was on hand too. Attendance seemed a little light compared to last year, but it could be the $3.29 a gallon for high test [$25 limit in effect nearby so they don't gouge too much out of each customer at any one station.], the storm result. or fear of a gas shortage [which there was not in this area]. I was down there for two fabulously clear and sunny days though. I get my new red C-6 tomorrow when they call me to tell me I won the raffle. lol Those tickets are $10 and unlimited sales. They also still have some $100 tickets left on the yellow convertible which will also be drawn tomorrow, with only 2006 tickets to be sold. They have 350 left, and will draw it anyway so the odds are pretty good. Think you can still get in by calling the Museum tomorrow and ordering over the phone. :shades:
  • How come the latest road and track measured this car at 12.3@116.6 with a 0-60 in 4.2 seconds. Then in the middle of the magazine you see Chevy's insert 11.7@125 with a 0-60 of 3.7 sec. R&T goes on to say that it is slower than a Viper and FEELS slower as well. Hard to belive the figures could be so off. I know Chevy is VERY agressive with their figures but this gap is unreal!!!
  • gbjerkegbjerke Posts: 158
    Motor Trend (Oct) just tested the animal.
    0-60 in 3.5
    1/4 mile 11.5@127.1
    So did Car and Driver and right now I can't find it (wife must be reading it--LOL).
    Anyway, they turned similar #'s as I recall.
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    Well the big mags have there say on straight line but here is some road course info:

    http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=103066

    Knowing how hard it is to learn a 2.2 to 3 mile track I really can't imagine the Ring!
    Randy
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    It's under the passenger side fuel rail cover towards the back/windshield... so you have to remove the red fuel rail cover to see it.
  • Well, I got no call on the raffle at the Museum, so I guess I got stiffed again on the drawing for a C-6. Oh, well, maybe next time. Still time I think to get a ticket for the "build your own Z06" raffle, but the ticket cost is out of my budget--I think they are $500 each, but a very limited number being sold. Too much car for this old man anyway. :shades:
  • I think that you may have to wait longer than 6 months. It is limited production (6000 total) Our dealership sold our 2 allocations 3 months ago for 10k over list. You may get stuck waiting a year or 2 if you don't want to pay the premium.
  • gbjerkegbjerke Posts: 158
    6,000 units? Motor Trend and I think Road and Track said 10,000 units...and yes, I may have to wait a bit like I did for my '01. May '01 it was sticker plus 3,500; end of May it was sticker. Bought in early July for 5k under so a 2 month wait saved me 8,500. Granted, '02's were about to hit the ground but 20 ponies and HUD did not make it worthwhile.
    Same with my '03. Bought in August '03 when the '04's were about to hit. However I bought for invoice less the rebate at the time.
    I wonder what the production numbers were for '01. Maybe you have that info.
    When I first heard of the content on the C6 Z I toyed with the idea of the "instant gratification" and there are several dealers out there selling for sticker so the temptation was there. However, I live in snow country so another couple months or so of driving and it will be put to bed for the winter. Just not worth it if one considers the potential deals out there next April/May.
  • According to the chevylaunch website which is accessible for dealers only. They said that Bowling Green is capable of producing 33,000-34,0000 Corvettes per year. They are estimating 15-20% will be Z06. Supplies will be tight. Dealer a :) llocation is based on 2005 years sales. Chevy stated that there will be some certified Corvette dealers who won't get a single Z06. The difference between the 2001 and the 2006 is the 06's are sold before they get here, the 2001's weren't. Laws of Supply and demand. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens.
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    2001:
    1YY07 Base Coupe $40,280 15,681 44%
    1YY67 Base Convertible $46,805 14,173 40%
    1YY37 Base Hardtop - Z06 Model $48,0555 5,773 16%
    Total: 35,627 100%

    2003:
    1YY07 Base Coupe $43,475 12,812 36%
    1YY67 Base Convertible $50,375 14,022 40%
    1YY37 Base Hardtop - Z06 Model $51,275 8,635 24% Includes Comm. Ed.
    Total: 35,469 100%

    2004:
    1YY07 Base Coupe $43,735 16,165 47%
    1YY67 Base Convertible $50,735 12,216 36%
    1YY37 Base Hardtop - Z06 Model $51,585 5,683 17%
    Total: 34,064 100%

    So, the 24% was very high, but the 2006 is filling new demand and so could
    exceed that. As noted, it will be interesting to watch. Not yet ready to
    pony up sticker, which I'm thinking with basic options and tax will be $75k+-.
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    check out automobilemag.com and autoweek.com for Z06 pictures.

    The new LS7 is hand-built

    check these links

    (note the signature)

    LS7 link two

    LS7 link two
  • gbjerkegbjerke Posts: 158
    Not so sure I agree with your comment on the "difference between the '01 and '06 is the '06's are sold before they get here, the '01's weren't." Remember, the '01 Z06 was the original (other than the early 60's option) and they came out with an additional 35 ponies as compared to the standard C5, lighter weight, firmer suspension etc.---it was an "unknown quantity" as such so they may not have been "pre-sold" per your definition. However, the demand was huge once they were introduced and the dealers priced it accordingly. It was sticker + everywhere. It was 5-20k over all over the country.
    The '06 content was well publicized long before introduction and it is GONZO so many were "pre-sold" per your definition, BUT the buyers are going on the history of the Z06, not a new and unknown model.
    Sure, there are a ton of "gotta have it now" guys and they are your "pre-sold's". Many others will wait it out, myself included. We well know the resale value of Vettes drop like a rock and that is big enough of a hit to have a performance car, and to pay a premium when it comes out is for a select few. The new Z is getting dangerously close to 911 range for price and while the Z will outperform it, many look to the value after say 2 years, and all of a sudden the extra for a 911 at inception, returns these $$$ PLUS.
    Just my thoughts.
  • gbjerkegbjerke Posts: 158
    Starrow-- Thanks for the production numbers. Looks like 5,700 for '01; 8,500 for '03 and 5,800 for '04 so it does not appear that the C6 Z06 numbers will be much different.
    Also, your pricing numbers are right on. I'd want the 65,800 base plus the 2LZ package plus the polished wheels and that turns out to be 70k. Add tax and you are right at 75k.
    It's a bummer to wait but will see what the market is next spring.
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    The new Z06 does cost more than the C5 Z06, but Porsche hasn't fixed the RMS (rear main seal) leaks of 911s (except for the GT2, GT3, and Turbo which have a much more expensive and racing-derived engine) and Boxsters.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    On Saturday I test drove a new 2005 911 S Cab (997) with my wife and kids in the rear seat. I was told the RMS problem was overblown and that, with proper break in, had not been a problem in 996's and Boxters. In fact, there was an absolutely pristine 2000 Boxster on the lot that had been recently traded on a 911. It had 155,000 miles on the odometer - and was driven as a daily driver nearly 30,000 miles a year. Never so much as anything other than routine service and oil and tire changes and it was still on the original clutch. The interior looked no worse for the wear and one might have thought the car had 15k miles on it, instead of 155k. Please advise me as to whether you know any sources of information on the RMS leak issue and how it might have been (or not) addressed in the 997. Thanks.

    It appears that the new Corvette L7 has the raw performance to match or beat many more expensive cars and exotics. However, I am still skeptical of build quality and can't get past the Chevy level fit and finish. I admit am unlikely to use more than 80% of the capability of a 911 S without professional training, so "uber-performance" is not my holy grail. Otherwise I would be on the wait list for a Ferrari 430. But as good as the Corvette performance looks on paper, I don't want to grip a Malibu type steering wheel (someone else's analogy here) or look at a dash that has the aesthetic quality of my 1978 Datsun. And I really hate rattles and squeeks. It just seems that as long as the Corvette falls under the GM umbrella, it will be plagued by these shortcomings. Perhaps GM needs to spin off the Corvette??
  • gbjerkegbjerke Posts: 158
    You bring up some legit questions that have been discussed on other Vette forums.
    Fit/Finish--not even close to Japanese/German standards. Not so much the "fit" aspect, but the paint job is terible. Orange peel a novice painter would be ashamed to turn out.
    Many have panned the dash as "cheap/plastic looking". Frankly, I don't mind it a bit. It's functional and I could care less about any wood trim/chrome/brushed aluminum/carbon fiber etc. Seats, at least in the C5 version suck. Very poor bolstering for a sports car. Maybe they have corrected in the C6.
    As far as "rattles/squeaks", I think Chevy remedied that in the original C5 in '97. The previous generations of Vettes were notorious for these but I have seen no complaints for the C5. I had an '01 Z06 and now an '03. 50,000 miles between the two of them and have NEVER had a single squeak or rattle.
    To me build quality is just fine, in fact, it exceeded my expectations. Paint is a bummer but my Z's have been yellow so not so noticable. Have always admired Porsche paint. I swear, they look like they were "hand dipped". I suspect each one has been wet sanded and buffed before it leaves the factory whereas Chevy lets robots spray the color and let it fly out the door.
    Then again, I like the Vettes for their performance vs. the cost factor and other than the above complaints, I have been a happy camper.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Thanks for the reply and congratulations on getting the car that suits your needs and preferences. We should all be so lucky. :)

    I have just given the go ahead on a 911 S Cab. Getting a substantial discount on a leftover (but new) 2005. However, given that it's about the same as I've paid for my last 2.75 cars, I may still have some buyer's remorse. At least I can pop my girls in the back seat for a family ride to offset my guilt!
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