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Hyundai Entourage 2007+

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  • hrngffcrhrngffcr Posts: 90
    http://car-reviews.automobile.com/Hyundai/review/2007-hyundai-entourage-road-tes- t/1786

    In the above article there is the following statement:

    "however, Hyundai's van receives a collection of Entourage-exclusive components and build techniques . . ."

    There is no elaboration. That statement almost has to come from something the Hyundai people told the writers at the road test. Anybody have any ideas as to what the "collection of Entourage-exclusive components" might be, or how there could be different "build techniques" in vehicles apparently built on the same assembly line?
  • doohickiedoohickie Posts: 949
    I was poking around over the the HMA Service site and noticed they have new vehicle familiarization training for the Entourage available online. It's geared toward dealers but it is a good resource for learning about the Entourage and its features. Here is a link:

    2007 Entourage Familiarization

    (I don't think any logon is required to view the training.)
  • hrngffcrhrngffcr Posts: 90
    That's why I watch this forum regularly--there's always somebody finding interesting websites to share. Thanks for the link. There are a lot of technical data and schematics at the site, but also several interesting pictures and some great info on safety and operating features of the Entourage.
  • hrngffcrhrngffcr Posts: 90
    Just got back from the Dallas Auto Show. Had a chance to look at Sedona and Entourage almost side by side.

    Talked to the Hyundai rep who was identified as the expert on the Entourage. From talking to her, it is clear that what we all pretty much suspected is true–there is very little difference other than cosmetic between the two vehicles.

    However, she did provide a few minor interesting facts. First, she was very clear that the Sedona and Entourage are not made at the same location. That apparently is why the road test review I posted earlier said that the Entourage had some unique build techniques. The rep said that is why, for example, the Entourage has a longer anti-rust warranty, because the Hyundai paint process is different from Kia’s. Second, the Kia has brake assist but the Entourage doesn’t, although the Entourage has brake force distribution. Third, she said it was her information that the Entourage would go on sale the end of May. Fourth, she explained a question that I had–what happened to the two horsepower less that the Entourage has. She said that Hyundai had decided to take from horsepower to add to torque.

    The rep did not know whether the window buttons on the doors or the buttons on the steering wheel light up when the headlights are turned on. The Entourage has chrome doorsill strips for the front and side doors with “Entourage” on them similar to the Grand Carnival door sill strips. Ooooooooooooh!!!!!!!!

    The one very significant difference between the vehicles that I noticed was that the second row headroom in the Sedona (with DVD player) was nonexistent for almost any adult. The rep let me climb into the only Entourage on display, which was up on a display platform, to check the second row headroom, again with DVD player, and it was significantly better–probably a deal breaker for us on the Sedona. The front headroom in the Kia, and I believe it will be the same in the Entourage, was very, very good, even with a sunroof–and I’m 6'4" with proportionately more height in my upper body. If, as I suspect, the driver headroom is the same in the Entourage, I am very pleased. Finally, in side by side viewing, the Wife preferred the looks of the front of the Entourage over the front of the Sedona (making the comment that she thought the Sedona looked like the front of an older Ford Windstar (or Freestar, or whichever star it was; I have heard others make the same comment). In person, looking at the Entourage, I had to agree that I prefer its front end.

    (Pictures were hard to get since the Entourage was on a display stand, although there was not much difference, of course, between it and the Sedona.)
  • larry1135larry1135 Posts: 43
    At the Chicago Auto Show we had both. We had one Entourage on the display turn table, and one on the floor that we could play with. The one on the floor was even powered. They also gave out a brochure on it. I'm kind of surprised that they did not do the same in Dallas.

    May huh, wish it were sooner. So, what color do you think you'll get it in?
  • hrngffcrhrngffcr Posts: 90
    Actually, they did have a brochure at the Dallas Show, but it was a simple foldout type, and it didn't have anything in it that I had not already seen at the allnewentourage.com website.

    As far as only having one Entourage, Dallas is definitely not a top-tier auto show. For example, last year, even though the Sedona had already been introduced at the Chicago Show, the new Sedona was not at the Dallas Show. You're lucky to be close enough to go to the Chicago Show.

    And I need to modify my earlier post. Upon reflection, I think I incorrectly ascribed the cause of the second row headroom to the difference between the Sedona and the Entourage. I realized after I made the post that the Kia had a sunroof and the Entourage didn't. I think it may be more accurate to say that if you get a sunroof, don't plan on putting any adults in the second row. The lowered roof is more likely the space needed for the sunroof to slide back. Not sure why the driver head room was so good and the second row was so bad. Roofline doesn't seem to slope that steeply.

    As to the release date, while I'd like to have a production Entourage available for a test drive, we won't buy until the end of the year (the week between Christmas and New Years), so the delay in introduction is not critical as to a purchase decision.

    Hard to say on color at this point. Don't know if colors will be the same as Sedona. If the Entourage is made in a different place with a different paint process, they may have different colors. We definitely want the tan interior (we have it in both of our current cars--and yes, we do have that color interior even with two young children). But in the Sedona, tan comes with very few of the exterior colors. For example the dark blue does not come with tan, which I think is a natural combination.

    The question I will have for the dealer to find out is, even though the sunroof comes with a package of features (all of which we want), if the sunroof takes out the second row headroom, can we order the car from the factory in Korea, if we are willing to wait a few months, and get all features in the package except for the sunroof, and can we get other ext/int color combos other than what is shown in brochure?
  • danf1danf1 Posts: 935
    GLS MSRP $23,795
    no options available

    SE MSRP $26,295
    Premium package $700
    Heated front seats
    Auto dimming mirror
    Home link
    Back up warning sensors
    Premium entertainment package $2,900
    Rear seat entertainment
    Ifinity audio system w/6 disc changer

    Limited MSRP $28,795
    Sunroof $900
    Entertainment package $2,200
    Ultimate package $3,950
    Sunroof
    Entertainment package
    Power passenger seat
    Power adjustable foot pedals
    Memory seats, mirrors and foot pedals
    Back up sensors.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,687
    The Entourage's sibling the Sedona is the first minivan ever to get all "Good" scores from the IIHS in its crash tests, earning their "Gold" label. The release from the IIHS noted that "this vehicle also will be sold as the 2007 Hyundai Entourage later this spring", implying that the Entourage will get the same crash test rating from the IIHS.

    http://www.iihs.org/news/rss/pr041606.html
  • llamaniallamania Posts: 25
    http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/04/18/004325.html

    Entourage Earns Good Ratings in All Institute Tests
    FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA - April 18, 2006: The Hyundai Entourage has earned the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety's (IIHS) highest honor -- the gold "TOP SAFETY PICK" award -- the best rating ever for a minivan in a recent evaluation by the Institute. Entourage is also the first Hyundai to receive a gold award for good crashworthiness ratings.

    "We are thrilled that Entourage is the gold standard for safety among minivans," said John Krafcik, Hyundai's vice-president of product development and strategic planning. "This award demonstrates our growing leadership in occupant protection, and complements our industry-leading position in the standard application of the industry's most effective life-saving technologies, such as Electronic Stability Control."

    The Entourage achieved this award by receiving a "good" rating for front, side and rear crash protection.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,687
    Funny how Hyundai doesn't consider the Kia Sedona to be a minivan. :confuse:
  • phil_lphil_l Posts: 7
    Has anyone seen trailer towing specifications for the Entourage?
  • phil_lphil_l Posts: 7
    Oops - just found it elsewhere: 1000 pounds for a trailer without brakes, 3500 for a trailer with brakes.

    I wonder if high gas prices will mark an end to the "family SUV" - and demand for realistic, family-friendly towing not hamstrung by the 'standard' 3500 pound towing capacity on vehicles clearly capable of more...
  • larry1135larry1135 Posts: 43
    I went to the IIHS website and could not find anything on the Entourage.

    link title
  • tenpin288tenpin288 Posts: 804
    It's in the press release about its sister, the Kia Sedona.

    IIHS press release

    Among the eight current minivan designs the Institute has rated, the Sedona is the only one that earns good ratings in all three Institute tests (this vehicle also will be sold as the 2007 Hyundai Entourage later this spring) ;)
  • larry1135larry1135 Posts: 43
    IIHS does not show the Entourage as being tested yet as the other link you had posted (Auto Channel) would lead you to believe. So, it will get a gold standard without being tested? Yes the Sedona is it's sibling but, does that mean it automatically gets the same rating? Anyone know? Guess we will get the answer when the Entourage is released and check the IIHS website again.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,687
    The Entourage is the same vehicle as the Sedona, just some trim differences. The IIHS recognizes this, per their press release where they said the Sedona would be sold by Hyundai as the Entourage. So it will have the same crash test scores as the Sedona.
  • larry1135larry1135 Posts: 43
    This is good news to me. I just did not want to read to much into it as the Entourage goes. Thought it might make a difference with it being made at a different plant but, I guess not.

    I'm really looking forward to test driving it then buying. I hope they will have some good rebates like they do with the Sonata.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,687
    Civics are made in several plants across the world. The IIHS tested only one of them.
  • hrngffcrhrngffcr Posts: 90
    According to the PRNewswire, the Entourage has been tested. The press release not only touts the Gold Top Safety award for the Entourage, it also sets out trim level pricing for the Entourage. So that leads me to believe that the Entourage itself has been tested and rated.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,687
    Can you please post the link to the PRNewswire story that says the Entourage has been tested by the IIHS? Everything I have seen, including PRNewswire reports and the IIHS site itself, state that the Sedona has been tested and it will be sold as the Entourage this summer--meaning the ratings apply to the Entourage also, but that it was the Sedona that was tested. When the IIHS releases test results on a vehicle, they are posted on their web site. There are no such test results for the Entourage, but there are for the Sedona. Anyway, it really doesn't matter--the Sedona and Entourage are the same vehicle, with only a few trim differences.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,687
    If the IIHS tested the Entourage, we should see a release from the IIHS on that any day now, and the results posted on iihs.org.
  • estoesto Posts: 136
    The article is a press release from Hyundai, not IIHS. Don't expect any activity on the IIHS site from that.
  • jaminejamine Posts: 1
    http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=115

    Hyundai Sonata
    1999-2005 models
    results also apply to: 2001-06 Kia Optima (mfg. before Oct. 2005)

    FRONTAL OFFSET TEST
    OVERALL EVALUATION: A
  • Here is something cool... I had a 2003 Kia Sedona minivan and in November I got asked to do a 6 hours market research test. I got to test drive 4 new minivans that were to be put on the market by various manufactures in 2007. All the minivans were masked off so that you couldn't tell what manufacturer they were. I figured out most of them by the body styling and they way that they handled. Of the four vehicles that I drove, and scored for performance, style, sportiness, appearance of exterior, interior, price, value, options, warranties, economy and safety, the Entourage was my clear choice. I literally fell in love with this vehicle. Two months ago my husband found a great deal on a 2005 Sedona EX (we had an '03 LX we payed $12,900 for new) and traded ours in getting a $29,000 van for just over $16,000 because they had to get rid of the 05's. I really want an Entourage when they come out, but I may have to wait a few years because of the recent trade in, but I will encourage everyone I know to test drive the Entourage when it is released :shades:
  • vanfor3vanfor3 Posts: 14
    Does anyone know why the Entourage tops out at over $33k, while the Sedona with the same options is over $2k less? Everything I've read here indicates that they are identical, except for front and rear cosmetics and the option of faux metallic trim instead of faux wood trim. I'm hoping the Entourage has some features included that the Sedona does not?

    Thanks
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    I know on the Limited trim of the Entourage, heated seats and HomeLink are included, maybe other features...(maybe also the Hyundai Hideaway (TM) j/k :) )

    Specific pricing with options came out?? I've only seen the press release with the starting base price for each trim. But, 33k loaded makes sense in this class...

    Just visited hyundaiusa.com, and the banner at the bottom of the page says the 2007 Entourage is available NOW :)
  • vanfor3vanfor3 Posts: 14
    Thanks. Yes, kbb has the options and pricing up, and a local dealer said they should be here very soon. As for those options, the loaded Sedona also has heated seats and homelink, so I'm still hoping the Entourage has something else to offer or differentiate it for $2k more, otherwise the choice will be easy.
  • estoesto Posts: 136
    I saw 2 Entourages on my way to work this morning. They're on the Beaverton Hyundai lot here in Beaverton Oregon.
  • mike91326mike91326 SoCalPosts: 245
    I think to some degree you are paying for the Hyundai name.
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