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Subaru Forester

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  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    "I liked the way the Forester handled better!"

    Granted you may enjoy the Forester, and the way it rides/handles. But for me, the E46 handles amazing well and the X3 handles like an E46. The Forester isn't quite in the same league although I do think the ride/handling is good enough.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,661
    Juice and I drove several at a BMW autocross-like event at FedEx field last year. I gotta admit, it really handled very well. I was very impressed.

    Is it worth the money? I guess that all depends on what your priorities are.

    Bob
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    "Is it worth the money? I guess that all depends on what your priorities are."

    That is a question one always asks themselves about any purchase, not specifically related to BMW.

    For example, I had to ask myself if spending the moolah for an vehicle without a 5 speed auto, no steering wheel controls and leather really worth the money?
  • prosaprosa Posts: 280
    Foresters can't legally have factory tint because they are technically classified as cars for EPA and (tint) purposes.

    Not according to the sticker on my '06 X.

    IINM, window-tinting standards differ by state, not vehicle type. For instance, New York allows much darker tinting than does Connecticut.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,661
    Well, my WRX Limited is not a 5-speed auto (5-speed manual) with no steering wheel controls and has leather. To me it was well worth the money.

    Bob
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    I could have gotten a $15K SUV and the Forester is not almost twice as good as a $15K SUV.

    If you can find a new SUV for $15k that's even close to as good as the Forester then you should buy it :P

    -Frank
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    window-tinting standards differ by state, not vehicle type. For instance, New York allows much darker tinting than does Connecticut.

    Actually, that's exactly why they don't tint passenger cars because tint standards vary by state while tint for trucks isn't nearly so regulated.

    So what does your sticker say?

    -Frank
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    Ah but that's not what your saying. It's always true as you go up the price range a car that cost twice as much is never twice as good. A $30K Honda is not 3 times better than a $10K Elantra for example. A decked out almost $30K XT will never be 3 times as good as an Elantra. Some buyers however may elect to place a premium on certain things you don't want to place a premium on. I stand by my original comment that at $40K the X3 330i does the SAV thing much better. If I could afford it I would be driving around in a Cayenne Turbo.
  • It is truly amazing...being a first time ever Subaru buyer, it baffles me as to how this company does business. I do think their product are very good, but as everyone has said laready, they seems to "not care" about the little things that makes car buying a more pleasureable experience.

    After getting geting home with my new car, I relized that the delivery of my car was just gosh darn aweful. The moon roof had a grease streak down the middle, the back seat had soem dirt on it, PIN STRIPPing was done to the car (wasnt there 2 nites previous when I went to look at it), the front plate didnt have mounting holes for the license plate, no plate frame or anything was mounted for given to me, the applied window tint look like champagne in a glass.

    If it wasnt for Subaru's saftey record, I would never had even thought about it. I will need to think hard next when comes time to replace my 06 Forrester. Sheeesh....
  • bayview6bayview6 Posts: 141
    The Japanese buyer would never put up with it. When you get the survey from SoA, be sure to answer honestly.
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    While a $30k Accord isn't 3-times a nice as a $10k Elantra, it certainly is a LOT nicer. Personally, I don't see how you can honestly say that the X3 is a LOT nicer than the XT. While the X3 may indeed be somewhat better in a couple of areas, it's nowhere near 50% better overall. Hence I was perfectly happy paying $26k for my XT while I would have been miserable paying $39k for a comparably equipped X3. As for the Cayenne Turbo, what a way to waste $96K! The XT offers more functionality and is only a whisker slower 0-60. Sure the Cayenne handles better but again, it costs almost 4 times as much! Besides, larger wheels, better rubber and a stiffer sway bar (all of which I invested in) will narrow the handling gap for a fraction of the cost.

    However, having said all that, I recognize that individual preferences and priorities vary so while the X3 may not provide sufficient dollar value for me, others will be perfectly happy with it.

    -Frank
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    "Personally, I don't see how you can honestly say that the X3 is a LOT nicer than the XT."

    I can understand that statement and failed to take into account in my post that our values are different. I agree 100% with your bottom line. I would also say the X3 is a lot nicer than the Forester. That being said, I am in no way downgrading the Forester. They both are nice cars, but I believe you get what you pay for. Some people don't want to pay for it however.
  • rambo5rambo5 Posts: 37
    I had the opportunity for a prolonged test drive of a friend's 2005 base Outback. While I enjoyed the car, front seat comfort killed the deal. I can't really articulate my gripe, but my back simply did not agree with this seat. Is the seat in the Forester the same? How do they compare? I realise that I need to test drive the Forester but my Outback seat complaint did not become apparent until I was nearly an hour behind the wheel.
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    The Forester has different seats. As for how they compare, since seat comfort is extremely subjective, I recommend that you arrange for an extended test drive if you're seriously considering a Forester. That's the only way to be 100% certain whether or not the seats will be comfortable for you.

    -Frank
  • jeqqjeqq Posts: 216
    LL Bean seats are very comfy for me. Give them a try, you may find them to be worth the xtra bucks the Bean costs. I also like the look of the Bean's interior.
  • bayview6bayview6 Posts: 141
    You definitely want to get the power seat with lumbar support. I've driven all day in My Forester and am very happy with the seat. Now, getting in and out of the Forester is another story.
  • poodog13poodog13 Posts: 320
    Now, getting in and out of the Forester is another story.

    My wife has a Forester, I'm 6'1'' and have never had a problem getting in and out (except when she has the seat all the way up an all the way forward old lady style). Other than seat placement, I can't imagine why anyone would have trouble getting in and out.
  • kavoomkavoom Posts: 181
    >>I've read some reviews that say that the X has power issues going up steep hills<<

    Darn I wished I had known that before I went up the mountain coming out of the Tetons passing huge SUV's and trailers with my five speed (04) having no problems at all and just cruising...pulling my 18 to 1900 lb pop up camper. I would have never tried it...and missed all the fun...

    Maybe the automatics are the issue. The five speed has a lot of guts. And the gearing must have been designed for towing a trailer... My girlfriend didn't like Foresters when we got mine a year ago. We are going to get hers (automatic) in about a week... Oh, and dogs love em. The deck sits high compared to other vehicles and a good size dog can see out lying down.
  • nibsnibs Posts: 65
    I own an 06 FXT (auto), metal grey with leather. The seats only come second to my wife's 96 Volvo 850 Turbo. I really like the view from the drivers seat but wish there was a position memory like the Volvo. I specifically chose the XT because of the extra torque the turbo has.

    My Bulldog loves the back area as he gets a great view as well.
  • bayview6bayview6 Posts: 141
    Probably it's just me, getting older and over-weight. My vehicle before the forester was a full-size pick-up and I was use to just "jumping in". With the Forester, I have to back in to the seat and then bring my legs around. No problem, just different. ;)
  • occkingoccking Posts: 346
    I presently own a 2.5i ltd outback, have had it 14 months now, almost 37k & very pleased with it. Want to trade in my wife's 97 Isuzu (a Honda clone) & considering the Foresters.

    I can't believe how peppier the 173 hp 4 is compared to the 168 in my Outback. But I suspect the ride not as "car like" as Outback.

    I can get the Forester X Limited with premium package for around 22,400, supposedly around $3000 less than list. Or, for $23,400 & I can get the 1.9 financing. How does that sound?

    Comparing it to a 2005 Mazda MPV. Quite a few of those left over. Can get one quite loaded sunroof, auto doors, side air bags,, traction control, etc., for just about the same price. Still want the third seat option, which is not an option on Subaru, unless I spring for the Tribeca but too expensive.

    Any comments???
  • I'm actually in the market for a Forester X Limited with the premium package. Was your quote of $23,400 (less $1,000) the price for manual or auto trans? I got the same quote (over the phone) for a manual before any options. I'm planning on going to the dealer with check in hand. At that time I expect to negotiate a better price ....maybe somewhere between 22,800 and 23,100.

    Also, beware of extra charges like doc fees etc...

    Does anyone know whether the $1,000 cash back will be extended past February 28th?
  • occkingoccking Posts: 346
    I got a quote based on MSWRP of 25,570 for the Forster X Premium of $22,284. That included the $1000 rebate. If I opted for the 1.9 financing would have been 23,284. This was from Somerset Subaru, Somerset, MA. I have a feeling I insisted, could have gotten a better deal. Turned out I fixed the brakes & installed new tires today on the potential trade in so will not be in the market for approx 18 months. In the meantime, my "Subaru Bucks" will keep accumulating!

    I am sure I could have gotten the price down at least to $22,000 or less, and probably have received one year of free oil changes also if I was persistent (with the high mileage I put on of approx 32k per year, that's worth a few hundred dollars.
  • occkingoccking Posts: 346
    Oh, Forgot to say -- that was for an automatic!
  • I have 2006 Forester X-premium. I am looking at getting a bug deflector put on at our dealership. The cost would be $98.00 instuled. A couple of questions.

    1. Is that a good price?
    2. Are bug deflectors worth puttin on?
    3. When on, do they make a wistling noise as some others do?
    4. Do they really keep the bugs off the windshield when driving?
    5. Who has them on theirs?

    Thanks for any information and thougths. I greatly appreciate it.
  • huey3huey3 Posts: 3
    Walk through a parking lot and check the windshields on the cars and trucks that have bug deflectors. I had one on a Ford truck and all it did was mess up the spray on the windshield washers.
  • bayview6bayview6 Posts: 141
    While we are on the topic of accessories, has anyone have any experience with the dust deflector for the rear window or the sporty spoiler. I like the look of the spoiler but know know if it serves any real purpose.
  • kavoomkavoom Posts: 181
    I just got an e-mail from a dealer saying to stop "buy" this weekend. They will have some X automatic Foresters for 19,995...exactly 1000 less than a month ago...

    I had heard somewhere that Subaru was going to have a big March 06 sale of some sort. I am taking this as a hint...
  • My 1999 Forester died in a freak accident (it's only mostly dead... the timing belt snapped and a bolt bent a valve stem) so I'm in the market for a new vehicle. I test-drove a 2006 Forester 5-spd, the low-end model, on Saturday. The only problems I had were with the ridiculous head rests (I tend to like to look forward, not down, when I drive) and the clutch. The clutch was not as "tight" as the one on my Subaru. It felt very loose to me. Is this typical?

    I also tested a Mazda5, which is the only other model in serious contention at this time. The shifting on the Mazda was so much nicer, but we also like to be able to tow a boat, or at least stick our bike rack in a hitch.

    Has anyone else debated seriously between these two models? I know they're very different and that the Subaru is objectively a better car, but my family is fond of the lower price and the cabin space for passengers in the Mazda.

    Vanity-wise, I have to admit I'm not crazy about the Forester colors. Why did they get rid of the Acacia Green? I can say right now that if there had been an Acacia Green 5-spd on the lot that shifted like my old Forester, I would have probably driven off the lot.

    Thanks for any help!
  • au1994au1994 Posts: 767
    Simple question: What are they and how do I get some?! :P

    I would love to trade my 4Runner for an LL Bean Forester, but would wait a few months if there is an opportunity to earn some 'credit'.

    2013 335i Sport Line Alpine White over Coral Red w/Black Trim

    2005 330cic ZHP Monaco Blue over Natural Brown w/Black Trim

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