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  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    IRT sight-seeing suggestions... Vegas and Hoover Dam in NV, the Grand Canyon in AZ, Zion, Bryce, Capitol Reef and Arches Natl Parks in southern UT. Then take I-70 east thru Vail & Breckenridge and then drive thru Rocky Mtn Natl Park (assuming the road is open). Leaving RMNP you'll go thru Boulder. Colorado Springs and Pikes Peak are only a little over an hour south of Denver and worth the visit. Once past the Rockies, there's not a lot of to see. I-80 thru Nebraska is the longer route but a less boring drive than I-70 (the stretch from Denver to Kansas City is unbelievably monotonous).

    Either vehicle should handle the trip with no problems. The Audi will give you a nicer quieter ride with somewhat better mpg while the Forester will haul more stuff and give you slightly more peace of mind that you can handle whatever Mother Nature sends your way. Of course the Forester also expands your ability to take the road less traveled :)

    As for driving 3000 miles with a 2-month old?!?!? No thanks!!!!!!!! :P

    -Frank
  • gmginsfogmginsfo San Diego, CAPosts: 113
    Hey, that sounds like a great RT! My own '03 Forester XS is just around 57K and has about 5K on its Goodyears and I'd love to find the time to do something similar. I'd stick to I-70 and its byroads if I were you; I-80 is b-o-r-i-n-g, as I well know from having done it in the opposite direction from Chicago. When you cross the Wabash into IN, head up north a bit to Turkey Run SP, which has a number of spectacular limestone cliffs, "backbones" and other cool rock formations, all of which will be in their Spring glory then. The Inn there is a nice old-fashioned SP hotel full of character and is pretty reasonable. If you belong to Triple A, which I also recommend, check out their Tourbooks for your route; they're loaded with really cool stuff that very few people bother to see but then wish they had. And yes, I'd definitely take the Subie. You never know what kind of weather you'll get along that route and it'll be up to the worst of it.
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    A new Forester owner (mb789) in the "Give Us Your Report" forum asked what your favorite Subaru colors are. Which got me to thinking... and I came to the conclusion that there aren't many :(

    IMO Subaru has had a rotten color selection these past few years. They've offered your basic white, silver, red, gold and black (along with a mostly decent blue). But even those basic colors haven't been executed very well. The reds have been dull; the white, silver and gold plain; and they even screwed up the black by adding multi-colored flecks to the paint (I'm not sure if the current black is any better). They used to have a pretty forest green but I don't think it's available any longer.

    Were I in charge for a day, I'd offer a nice deep "midnight" black, a pearlescent white, a crisper red, a darker silver, bring back the forest green, and I’d drop the gold just because :P I’d have to see the Newport Blue again in person before deciding whether to keep or change it. I’d also bring back the widespread use of the two-tone paint scheme. The black, red and blue (and possibly silver) would all look great with titanium lower body panels :)

    Anybody else have an opinion?

    -Frank
  • I think the Aspen White is too stark, the Satin White Pearl is not pearly enough, the Dark Gray Metallic is too dark, WR BLue Mica is too loud, the Topaz Gold is boring unless it be two-tone, the XT Limiteds should also come in two-tones like the LLBs, and the LLBs should also come with manual transmissions and boost.
    If I could find this combination, I think I would buy a Forester: Automatic, Turbo, Beige Leather, and Dark Gray Metallic over Silver Steel Metallic.
    In other words, a combination of what is now the LLB and the XT Ltd.
  • Purpose of a spoiler is to break up the airflow coming off a tapered body, which reduces drag. The fact that "streamlined" cars have excessive drag behind them was discovered by a fellow named Kamm, and led to flat backs for some cars (example: Corvette) and spoilers for others (example: Porsche).
    A box like the Forester is inherently Kamm-backed, so the spoiler serves no purpose other than decoration unless the open slot between the spoiler and the window can direct a little airflow down over the window.
    The rear window becomes dusty in the still air behind the car. A moving stream of air across the window, such as generated by a real deflector, prevents dust from settling.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yep, but is the deflector still around? I've only seen them on gen 1 Foresters (98-02).

    Having said that, I never had one and it wasn't too bad. My wife's 02 Legacy is much worse about collecting dust.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I like the blue but I had an Escort that color and loved the paint.
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    Hey give me some credit here! Naturally I checked to confirm that the dust deflector was still listed as an option :P

    -Frank
  • Thanks guys for the suggestions. FYI, I have marked all your points of interest on my GPS software, and will figure on how to join the points so I don't retrace my steps. Since this is going to be end of march (most likely), we are likely to run into some inclement weather in UT/CO. So, we are taking the Forester. Now, I have to figure on adding 2 small auxillary driving lamps (not fogs) for the long stretches of highway. Any ideas? I want to keep the stock look of the car.... so no major drilling or light bars.
  • Subaru has really gone to the other extreme in the Color segment. Gone are the days of the Bright Purples and Greens I guess. The Dark Grey Metallic is quite beautiful in person. It will also sell well as a private sale or on the dealer lot when it's used. Go for this or Silver whenever you can! ;)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    You win, then. ;)
  • Can't anyone answer if the lower aft control arm bushing on an '04 FXT is oil filled or not?

    John
  • I have never heard of an oil filled suspension bushing and don't see how one could work.
    I looked at the part in AllSubaru.com and it looks like a rubber bushing in a metal casing for bolting to the control arm.
    So you have completely eliminated all possibility that oil could get onto the bushing from some other source?
  • Until they changed to a solid rubber/metal engine mount a lot of aircraft used oil/gel filled mounts. And when they got to a certain point they would leak. That's why I'm asking if maybe Subaru is using this technology. The area around the bushing is free from oil and the bushing itself is oozing the stuff. I just don't want to order the bushing until I get a definitive answer.

    Thanks,
    John
  • :) Hi everyone, I am a medically retired woman, recently in a car accident w/a Plmouth Grand Voyager--TOTALLED! The people said I was lucky to be alive.
    Now, looking to buy a good reliable car that will hold in value, that is under $8K, and has low maintenance, easy to get in and out of and good family vehicle. The problem is, I have never owned or even knew anyone that owned a subaru, but from all research I have done, subaru's hold their value. I can't seem to find any links that will show me the maintenance costs of this particular year, parts cost etc. I change my own transmission & engine oil, so I want to make sure that is easy to do as well. I have found 99 forester L for $6950 w/99K miles. Can you give me some feedback please?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    2002 and earlier Forester has some issues with the gaskets and the wheel bearings, so those would be the things to look for.

    If you take it to a mechanic, have him inspect the wheel bearings and maybe do a compression test on the cylinders, or at least check for oil leaks.

    If those have not failed at 99k miles, they probably never will.
  • Thank you so much, going for a test drive in a bit. Unfortunately, mechanic is off til next week, so cannot offer to buy until I drive it, and he checks it. Appreciate your response! :)
  • phil2000phil2000 New JerseyPosts: 195
    Two weeks ago the pulley went and cause the timing belt to jump. Repair ran $775.00 on my 2000 Forester. But the engine misses now and the dealer (who I am not happy with) said I have valve damage but did not say which ones. I wonder did he put the belt on correctly. The engine had 254,000 on it. How can I check the timing myself as well as the compression? Also, eBay has the CD version off the service manuals for $15.00 are they good ones? Thanks :(
  • Does anyone know if the LL Bean Load Leveler system (discontinued for the 2008 model year) can be fitted to other models of the Forester?
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,663
    I would think so. This rear-only auto-leveling hydraulic system is offered on Foresters and Outbacks in many other markets, and has been in use for years.

    Bob
  • "... the spoiler serves no purpose other than decoration unless the open slot between the spoiler and the window can direct a little airflow down over the window.The rear window becomes dusty in the still air behind the car. A moving stream of air across the window, such as generated by a real deflector, prevents dust from settling."

    That''s what I posted earlier this month. Now I have just bought a 2008 LL Bean that came with a spoiler, and have put 200 miles on it. I also have a 2006 Scion xB with no spoiler.
    In 200 miles the Scion's rear window would be covered with dust. The Forester's window does not have any dust.
    I would not have paid $350 for the Forester's spoiler if I had any choice. But the slotted area in it does work as a deflector and keep dust off the window.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    The only problem I see about installing the load-leveling is that it's likely very expensive and only available from the dealer.

    -mike
  • phil2000phil2000 New JerseyPosts: 195
    My 2000 Forester had no spoiler and I drove it some 254,000 miles. Very little dust collected on the rear window. I had more of a problem with the rear wiper. It had only two setting on or off, no intermittent. I would not opt for a spoiler in a future purchase.
  • phil2000phil2000 New JerseyPosts: 195
    I have decided to do the repair myself. I found a shop that will do the valve job for $180 plus parts (2-3 day turnaround). A dealership said all the gaskets I need will run about $150. All I need now is the manuals and another car for about 10 days.
  • My moonroof won't competely close - it stops about 6 inches short, just as it hits the spring ramps. Holding those down doesn't help. Also, strangely, the one-touch has stopped working. The manual crank into the motor won't close the roof either. No sign of bits of lego or chewing gum in the tracks... does anyone have any suggestions?
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    Well I just got a new set of tires. I replaced a set of Avons with 30k miles on them. They still had some tread left but one of them had a slow leak from a previously patched puncture. This time I went with the Kumho Ecsta ASX which is very reasonably priced for a UHP All-Season tire and gets pretty good reviews. I'll let you know what I think after I put some miles on them.

    -Frank
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    FWIW, CR rated them highly. No lower priced tire performed better. Many higher priced tires performed worse.
  • gmginsfogmginsfo San Diego, CAPosts: 113
    My luck at Budget's ORD location continues: this time I managed to get an '08 Forester with 140 miles on it when I picked up my rental car for Xmas - and at only $175 a week! Since we had all kinds of weather during my stay, with temps between the teens and the 40s, I finally got to use and appreciate the heated seats, which allowed me to cruise over to the 7-11 for my morning coffee clad only in sweats and a lumberjack shirt. (And thankfully, this 7-11 still uses the stable styrofoam cups and doesn't try to pass itself off as a $tarbuck$ with the new paper (read, flimsy), "green" ones!) I took it out into the countryside, or what's left of it in Chicagoland, and played around on snowy, muddy roads a bit, and it did not disappoint. The extra 8 horses in this engine were a gratifying improvement over the 165 in my '03 Forester, and it was noticeably quicker when merging onto the expressways, which is what freeways are called in the Midwest. It also seemed quieter, but this may have been a sympathetic aural reaction to the lingering new car smell. I also seemed to get better mileage with the "new" engine, but this may have been due to my driving a bit slower while I was on vacation. And yes, the roof rails came off as soon as I got it home and stayed in the rear well for the duration.

    My only complaints are mainly visual: the visors STILL don't slide back to block the sun (C'MON!), and the day-nite mirror - relievingly, a manual one - picks up way too much headliner reflection when in nite mode, however adjusted to avoid it. I liked having all the cruise controls on the paddle, instead of the main switch next to the fog light switch, and I didn't notice it interfering with me knee at all. But, I still would like some more leg room in the driver's seat. Even with the power seat set as far back and as high as possible, it was still a bit of a chore to get in and out, and a tad tight once in. (I'm 6'.) Subaru needs to know that many of us never fill up our back seats, and it should design the front ones to travel back further, secure in the knowledge that it won't be a co-conspirator to cramping anyone's style back there!

    Happy New Year to All!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Lucky duck! I can't believe it.

    Any how, let's hope the 09 addresses some of your issues. The wheelbase is longer and in photos it looks like not all of it went to the back seat. We shall see...
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    But, I still would like some more leg room in the driver's seat.

    Really? I'm almost positive the Forester already has class leading front leg room (I'm 6'2 and fit comfortably). And by increasing travel of the front seats, that reduces the listed rear seat leg room.

    -Frank
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