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Honda Civic vs Toyota Corolla vs Mazda3

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  • ylzylz Posts: 45
    Hello everyone. I decided I'm buying a 2008 Mazda 3 GT Hatchback. I have two important questions and would love to hear feedback on it so anything would help. First, how is the Navigation in this car? Someone who has the Nav, please comment on this. I mean, honestly I really want it cause it looks good and I'm always travelling and a Nav system would come so in handy. And the second question I have is what color do you guys prefer. I was all set on black until I went to the dealership today and saw metropolitan gray. What a gorgeous color! Its like dark grey but with a touch of blue. Actually, it looks bluish-grayish. I know these two things seem unimportant but it will really affect my decision on this car. Ok, thanks a lot.
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    How about a Jetta Diesel? Per the (rediculously low) EPA numbers, the 2009 Jetta Sedan gets 30 mpg city and 41 mpg highway, and it is available with all of the other goodies that you say are "non negotiable".

    Can't say about the 09 models, but no 08 Jettas have leather interior as an option. And, here in SC, when I was in the market last January, the closest Jetta with factory NAV was in Texas, according to the local VW dealer. Of course, you could order one with NAV and wait 60+ days...
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "Can't say about the 09 models, but no 08 Jettas have leather interior as an option."

    Really? What about the Jetta GLI? I'm pretty sure that the GLI has been available with the Autobahn Package (which includes leather) for several years now.

    Regarding the NAV system, yeah, most folks don't seem to want it, and so they're kind of hard to come by. For my part at least, I have no problem waiting for sixty days to have a car built exactly to my specifications, so I don't think that's unreasonable, but that's just me. ;)

    FWIW, I ran across a 2009 option sheet a month or so back on a different board, and I'm 90% positive that the top trim level is available with leather seating and NAV.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    Really? What about the Jetta GLI? I'm pretty sure that the GLI has been available with the Autobahn Package (which includes leather) for several years now.

    The last time I was on the VW web-site, the GLI was considered a different model than the Jetta, even thought the body style is the same. A technical difference, I admit, but the GLI is oriented as a "performance" model.

    Going through the thread, it didn't seem to be the direction the poster was headed, in my opinion.

    As for me, when I was shopping last January, VW had the sale, but lost it due to a fuel efficient model with decent options, such as leather, self-diming interior rear-view mirror and other options that were easily found on other competitor's models.
  • I think you still need to be in Canada to get heated mirrors (because we don't get ice in the states).. kind of screwed up considering Hyundais and Kias have 'em.

    But I found this link for heated side mirrors:
    http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=MorePartInfo&PartID=4670- 48&siteid=214264&catalogid=4010
  • cyshescyshes Posts: 7
    Any chance the 2009 Mazda3i will come with stability control (VSC)? I think it's the only thing that's really preventing me from going with the Mazda3.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "I think you still need to be in Canada to get heated mirrors..."

    The Civic EX-L comes with heated mirrors.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    The '09 Civic is on the way within the next month and a half. Changes include the addition of trim levels slotting between the DX and LX (lower middle) and LX and EX (upper middle). The Civic VP (value package) will basically be a DX with Air Conditioning and a stereo. The LX-S will be a sport package for the LX, with alloys, sport seats, and a rear-deck spoiler. Sedans will be getting the 3-spoke wheel from the coupes.

    Also, revised styling will be minor changes only, a slightly larger grille opening, and minor adjustments made to the lighting.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Where can I see pics of the upgraded Civic?
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Thanks.

    Looks like the grille of the Mazda3 i, with the chrome on top of the grille and a black mesh below and the logo centered.
  • For the buck, you can't beat the Mazda3. If I can get an excellant deal on an '08/'09, I will not wait until the '10s come out in Feb. The biggest question I have is the reliability/quality of the 2 engines that come in the Mazda3, i.e., 2.0 and the 2.3. Which engine is the best??? tyvm :shades:
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Both of them are as reliable as you can want.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Both are very reliable.
  • Both are very reliable. If you're open to saving a few thousand dollars, we just took in a gorgeous 2007 GT with only 10k miles. It should be on our company website soon. I work for Honda of Kirkland, WA. The car is an absolute 10....No smokers or dogs.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    It goes to the Corolla strengths, inexpensive to purchase and inexpensive to keep.

    2009 Corolla in VT
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    from the article:The Civic beats the Corolla by a bit in headroom and legroom, except in the rear. The Corolla’s 36.3 inches of rear legroom exceeds the Civic’s 34.6 inches, and the Corolla’s flat floor is more comfortable for passengers stuck in the back.

    What makes the Corolla's flat floor more comfortable than the Civic's flat floor?

    That review is pretty useless.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Poorly written, methinks. Both floors are flat.

    In sitting in each back to back, IMO it's the shape of the seat cushions, the height of the seat over the floor and then slightly more legroom that might make it more comfortable in the back of the Corolla.

    I can see what she means but it's her opinion. In fact the measurements are almost exactly the same on the seat sizes but the Corolla sits slightly higher off the floor it seems.
  • dengludenglu Posts: 12
    Could anyone recommend the best (based on your experience) Honda dealership in San Francisco Bay area?

    Edmunds is showing TMV price of $18,230, whereas carsdirect.com is giving $17,471...could anyone kindly share his/her experience buying a new 2008 Honda Civic LX 4dr sedan in any of the dealerships around SF Bay area?...I was wondering if i could get a better deal in case i am willing to pay the entire amount rather than use financing or it is better to mention this at the end?

    I am interested in the base model, do not need navigation or other bells and whistles...just want to survey what was OTD price people paid for 2008 Honda Civiv LX 4dr in SF Bay area this month or month before

    A little of what i found out so far: carsdirect.com pricing seems to be deflated, as Bluebook also suggests that the average price people pay for the car is $18,246.00 with the range being $18,064.00-$18,428.00 (edmunds TMV price is $18,430), whereas carsdirect seems to be well below that, so probably, not really attainable in reality...my understanding is that theres is a basic 36-month warranty which is a part of the basic package...am i wrong? So is that right to assume that OTD = price FOR THE CAR (incl. destination)+warranty? or usually when people mention OTD price it excludes the warranties? It is my current understanding is that when bluebook or edmunds show the price people tend to pay for a given model DOES include the basic 3-year warranty, but i maybe wrong on this one....

    i am looking for standard package with standard specs, just wanna get a handle on what is the average price people are paying at this moment for 2008 Honda Civic LX 4-dr sedan with a standard package in SF Bay area (by standard i mean specs mentioned at http://www.kbb.com/kbb/NewCars/Specifications/2008_Honda_Civic_Sedan_223770.aspx- - ) .

    Thanks in advance
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