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Nissan Sentra vs Honda Civic

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  • james31278james31278 Posts: 78
    Opinions vary. My car is nicer than the new one. Eldaino what part or parts of the new spec do you think is nicer than the previous model?
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    i just think that the new one looks 'buffer'. i love the lines of it; especially from the pic you provided. The rims are a nice touch too; some of the nicest 17's this side of a gti. I just don't like how high off the ground it is. Thats my only gripe
  • james31278james31278 Posts: 78
    You mean tougher? It looks like an Altima's and Prius' illegitimate love child. The wheels aren't bad but I still like my 17" wheels anyway.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    To me, looks like a chunky cherub. The antithesis of the sleek and swoopy Civic.

    To each his/her own.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    yeah, i feel ya. But i still wouldn't call the new civic muscular. But i do prefer the swoopiness.

    One thing i do like about nissan though is that they have a nice in the middle model; the base se-r. Sportier than the rest, just not the best, and it is an obvious change from the rest of the line.

    I'd like a civic sedan with the 2.0 from the base rsx/02-05 si, with a 5 speed auto (maybe paddle shifters? or at least a row it yourself kind of feature), a standard leather steering wheel, a slightly better sound system, and maybe the honda factory performance suspension standard to set it apart from both the si and ex. Call it the civic se or si-r or something.

    That would be nice.
  • james31278james31278 Posts: 78
    That and the fact that the frog chassis is near 3,100lbs. The previous model was perfect. The Skyline's shift knob and a half-assed G-Meter in the new Spec doesn't cut it.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    yeah, i feel ya. But i still wouldn't call the new civic muscular. But i do prefer the swoopiness.

    The Civic is anything but muscular or intimidating looking, at least in basic DX/LX/EX form. I honestly prefer the look of my Accord to the new Civic, and my Accord debuted in 03.

    I also like the idea of the Civic SE with a power bump too, but that would be detrimental to the Civic's image (economy certainly going down). Maybe the SE Civic with leather, Auto Climate Control, paddles, and a power driver's seat for (same engine) for $1,200 more (same engine)?
  • lgoldinlgoldin Posts: 90
    hey, this is called Acura CSX in Canada :-)
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    exaclty! why cant we have this, minus the more luxurious features, such as xenons? (i'll take a leather option like graduate mentioned though.)

    and with regards to leather, i still feel this is one of the big issues with the civic; pretty much EVERYONE offers this option, but not honda. They would have NO problems finding people to offer it.

    I like your idea grad, but i still want more power. The k20 in the base rsx/old si hatch gets 22/28 under the new standads; with the five speed auto and some different gearing, i don't see why 24/31 wouldn't be possible and thats still decent and at least on par with sportier entries like the se-r and mazda 3. I think leather should be an option regardless, but a trim line like this would be great. Maybe add 2100 like you said and it'll sell!
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Anyone see the Motor Trend article comparing Elantra, Sentra, Civic, and Lancer?

    If you subscribe, I won't ruin the outcome for you, but I will tell you the people in this forum will probably like the outcome.
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    The Sandman :) :)
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    no i hadn't heard about it! is it on their website yet?
  • james31278james31278 Posts: 78
    That depends. Then again the new Sentra isn't the old one. The new one is a mega ugly bulky slow way too heavy car vs the lightweight better looking versions of 2000-2006.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I'm confused on what "depends"?

    The new Sentra is obviously the one they tested.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    actually, given its weight, it does ok and gets better fuel economy to boot.

    Ugly and better looking is totally subjective. For example, the older sentra to me is mighty plain looking, even in se-r guise, which just adds a darker, red stiched interior and different color gagues.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    yeah me too. James if you are talking about stacking up the older sentra versus the cars listed here, it would be even worse for the sentra. (unless the corolla was included; i think i'd take a nice 2.5 non se-r over a corolla.)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Heck, I'd take a slap in the face over a Corolla...

    ...maybe...
  • james31278james31278 Posts: 78
    How do you know it would be worse?
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    because the older sentra is ancient mechanically and with regards to features. Putting that up against what the competition is offering now would be suicide....

    hence....

    why the sentra is what it is now!
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    Heck, I'd take a slap in the face over a Corolla...

    ...maybe...


    the best post EVER on this website! i literally (and i can't belive i'm going to say it) lol'd! :)
  • james31278james31278 Posts: 78
    Yeah what it is now, a French piece of junk chassis. An unnecessarily modified engine when all they had to do with give it better airflow to and from the engine then maybe tweak one thing in the engine itself. I'll take the stealth sedan over the ugly duckling any day.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Heck, I'd take a slap in the face over a Corolla...

    ...maybe...

    the best post EVER on this website! i literally (and i can't belive i'm going to say it) lol'd!


    Hehe. :)

    I've actually BEEN slapped by a Corolla owner (my ex gf). Notice the word "ex."

    In fairness, if I was 5'4" as opposed to 6'4" the Corolla wouldn't be nearly so bad. The driving position is just a torture rack for me though.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    havent all the reviews shown that from a numbers standpoint that despite the new se-r's akward stance, it grips and handles better than the previous generation? A lot of the reviews for the generation that you own have made a lot of fuss about its great engine begging for a new chassis!

    i guess looks are to each his own.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    oh geez grad you are hilarious! ;)

    sorry about the slap. Ex huh? good riddance!

    i actually had a chance to drive an 07 corolla recenlty, a friend at work has one, i didn't think the driving postion was horrible (i'm only 5'8, 5'9 on a good day, so you would be chewbacca like in stance compared to me.), but it was a little funky. The gauges were ok though.

    Hey grad, guess what? my wife and i are considering a civic again.
  • james31278james31278 Posts: 78
    Car reviews are like movie reviews. The reviewer's point of view is theirs and no one else's. If that were the case which I doubt it is, they picked the wrong chassis.
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    As a 2nd vehicle I presume. Been seeing more and more Rabbits lately and I think I prefer the 4 door ersion over the 2 door actually. With just about a years ownership and hitting 8k miles today on my Civic, still very pleased with this car. The mileage seems to be a couple of mpg's better since our small road trip a couple of weeks ago. Think it was good to get the engine running at 70 to 75 for the hour and 1/2 drive each way we took.
    If I had to do a do over though, I'd go for the EX for the extra goodies. Like the stopping feel of the wife's 3s with the 4 wheel discs...they just seem to preform better than the rear drums of my LX. That's the only small regret I've got with the Civic. Still get compliments on the Galaxy grey color also.

    The Sandman :)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Getting rid of the VW, or just adding a second car to the mix?

    The gauges in the ex's Corolla were that "indiglo" looking stuff, not the nice Lexus-like display they have now. They glared pretty badly (lit up too bright) if you wanted a clear view of them.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    yeah, it would not be a 2nd car, but replacing the bunny.

    I like the look of the 4 door version better as well, and having four doors is becoming a neccesity for us...hence why we considered the 4 door bunny, but then our quest for a fuel efficient car is trumped. (the 4 door is pretty much equal with regards to price of a four door civic ex, but with out the mileage gain; our bunny at least has a low msrp.)

    I orignally wanted a gti 4 door, you know have the best of both worlds...but then i would be paying the same price as an ex accord and while getting better mileage than my rabbit, would have to deal with putting in premium. The gti and se-r are the only sporty compacts with no penalties automatics (the gti being the far superior one ofcourse) and while i'd like an si sedan, the premium gas and the fact that its a manual comes into play again.

    I agree sand, while i had an ex, i wouldn't go to an lx, i'd get the ex again. I would still like to have a hatch, but if i want good mpg and the honda nameplate, the fit is the only offering. we are considering a sport auto (preferably in white or blue) as well.

    I still don't think that the milage is a huge issue on the bunny, but having four doors is...at least its getting that way for us. the better fuel efficiency is a plus, and we drive highway a lot, which means i'll probably see much better mpg than i used to on my old civic, which was only highway driving on the weekends.

    Grad: the newer gauges are nice, but your ex's were lame! ;)

    oh and sandman: i wanted to consider a mazda 3 hatch, i like the looks, even though the mileage would be about the same, i would have at least the handling to back it up...but my wifes protege5 gave her some headaches, and her moms v-6 mazda6 is providing her with a whole slew of new ones. Needless to say, she wants to get a honda now.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    like you said, it is opinion, but what a skilled driver acheives in a car is not really arguable. Its the 'i don't like the way it looks' or 'i hate the gauges' that you have to ignore.
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