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Mazda5 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • smariasmaria Posts: 279
    NJ to PA to VA is at least 350 miles, could be longer than that depending on where the dealerships were actually located. So, it sounds like the dealer is giving you a reasonable explanation about why the car has 450 miles on it. But I agree with mazda6s, you can never be 100% sure about why the car has 450 miles on it.

    Throwing in the oil changes and offering a price break sounds reasonable, if it doesn't bother you too much that you're buying a "slightly used" car...that depends a lot on your personal opinion. I don't know what a reasonable price break is, but if it was me I'd try for somewhere around $1000 below what I'd pay for a low-mileage one. Also, make sure to test drive it before making any final decision (i.e., did any problems come up in the first 450 miles that the dealer knows about but you don't? If so, maybe you can spot them on the test drive.). Whatever you decide, just make sure you're happy with what you're buying.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    Because there isnt a big supply of Mazda5 it's not surprising that some swap cars will have some miles. If the original dealer only had one or two in stock they probably used it for test drives....add that to the miles between dealerships and the miles can add up quickly.

    Here in the Northeast we have some big product shortages...so it's not uncommon for cars to get swapped around alot. I have a mazda tribute in stock that started in maryland, went to nj then to ny and then to me. 450 miles later its here....but I needed the car and it was a one of a kind unit.
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    I'd be a little suspicious. Usually a dealer will only put that kind of mileage on a car for a sold unit with a deposit on it, and then only if the customer is aware of this mileage in advance.

    I suspect one of the other possibilities I mentioned is the real reason for the 450 miles, so I'd make my offer based on that.
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    Rich - In that case you and your customer knew in advance that it would have that many miles on it when they took delivery and that was OK with them, right?
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    yeah we try to give the customer a heads up on the miles.....sometimes we just forget to ask how many miles are on the swap car. nothing devious, just don't always think about asking the other dealer....Now that I think about it, not to many other dealers ask me to check the miles on the car before they come and get it.

    Mazda lists the original dealer on the invoice, so the other dealer does have an idea the car has been moved around.
  • rrratinarrratina Posts: 27
    Others have written in stating you may be able to negotiate a lower price. Did the dealer have the option of transporting the car on a truck and negotiating a transport charge?
  • rrratinarrratina Posts: 27
    I know what you mean and wholeheartedly agree with you. I must say, that initially I thought the dealer I eventually made my purchase from was guilty of a "bait and switch"-I checked the dealer where the car was supposed to have been obtained and it had been sold. So, I retract my statement!

    Nevertheless, I intended on waiting for more vehicles to hit the lot as I wasn't willing to pay for a vehicle with NAV. The salesman finally called me yesterday acquiescing to what I would pay. We agreed on a price and the salesman faxed me the breakdown so I could see it in writing. The dealer made this sale only because he threw in the NAV! So, we agreed on our price up front. I even asked on the phone how long could I expect to spend at the dealer and was advised 2 hours, much to my dismay. Even with the haggling done before we even arrived at the dealership, we STILL spent two hours there.

    I actually didn't have to see the F & I guy, as my salesman went over our financing paperwork with us-he said the F & I guy was too busy. I already had my financing pre-approved, as I ONLY wished to finance through my credit union. Lucky for me our salesman wasn't pushy-but I did make sure he wrote the vin number on some paperwork where I didn't see it. I actually couldn't wait for the F & I guy to try and "push" the paperwork on me, as I am good at saying no.....oh well....

    Anyway-I refused to close at the dealership and instead closed the deal at my credit union, and as a result, I have peace of mind!

    Oh, and by the way, it took one quarter of the time that we spent at the dealership for us to close on our house!

    Cheers to the Mazda 5!
  • gyygyy Posts: 5
    i recently had a bad buying experience at Menlo Mazda (Bay Area, CA). I wanted the mazda 5 touring, and they located the car for me. However, they slipped 3 times in delivering the vehicle. they did not keep the promise to have all the accessories put on and deliver the car on time. Besides, I found out the car has scratches on the bumper. they are willing to repair, but I don't pay to buy a car with defects. I paid to have a new car, without previously repaired, on time. What makes the things worse is that their price is not competitive at all. I found out that other dealers would offer at least $1000 less, and you don't even have to negotiate. I haven't taken the car yet, and now I am demanding to have my money back.

    anyone has any suggestion in going about getting my money back. unfortunately, I have signed all the doc, and paid for the car already. Any advice would be appreciated.
  • blevinblevin Posts: 1
    Im consdering getting a mazda5 could you plese provide deatails on what seems to be a "gerber" discount
  • robyneilrobyneil Posts: 26
    anyone has any suggestion in going about getting my money back. unfortunately, I have signed all the doc, and paid for the car already. Any advice would be appreciated.

    Sorry to hear that. Did you document specifics about the car you ordered like delivery date, VIN#, trim, options, price, etc...? When we ordered ours from Fremont, CA through dealer trade, we had the dealer sign a plain inkjet paper with all this information hand written before making a deposit. The surprising thing about it was it was the salesperson who suggested it because we were already walking out at the time (we somehow do this each time we feel pressured to do something we didn't like as in leaving a deposit without any documentation and it worked in our favor so far).

    When they didn't give us the car we ordered (5 was already sold and other 5 had different VIN and had extra wheel locks for an extra $184), I told them I wanted my deposit back hoping they would give in to us. I was surprised how fast they gave me the wheel locks for free. We had some leverage somehow (probably they already finished the trade or it might have been the signed order documentation...don't really know).

    Probably you still have a chance of reversing it if you have any documentation you didn't get what you were promised. Hopefully, there's a lawyer in this forum who can advise you. Better yet, consult a lawyer now if you do have some documentation and haven't picked up the vehicle yet!
  • ajpendoajpendo Posts: 19
    Does anyone know if a dealership will honor the gerber discount if the certificate was not available at the time of purchase? Surely if the date of sale was within the specified time what difference should it make???
  • I was wondering the same thing. My Gerber ad came in the mail yesterday and I immediately went to the MazdaUSA website listed in the ad, to register. I purchased my MZ5 on 7/16 but didn't find out about the gerber rebate until 7/22 so I will let you know what comes of it.
  • smariasmaria Posts: 279
    See message #3 in this thread, or go to www.mazdausa.com/gerber
    It's a $500 rebate from MazdaUSA for any new 2005 or 2006 Mazda vehicle.
  • gyygyy Posts: 5
    thanks for your sharing...I guess you had better luck at Fremont Mazda, and it seems that they are more reliable.

    Yes, if anyone of you know how I can get this settled, please help.
  • momstoymomstoy Posts: 30
    I called mazda corporate (the phone # on the certificate emailed to you) and they said that they would give me the rebate after the fact. I think that I have posted this here before. I had to mail them a copy of the email, my purchase contract, and the "original offer" (a large kind of post card from gerber that I got by emailing gerber for it and they mailed it out to me within a week)

    I had forgotten to mail the "original offer" and they said that they would accept a faxed copy. Just faxed that on Friday - so I will wait and see if I actually get the $$.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,894
    No delivery ... No deal.

    As long as you don't take the car, there is no finality to it. And how did you pay for a car you don't even have?? That part makes no sense to me.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    gbrozen.....Does Calif have a law/rule that clarifies your post??

    gyy stated ..."I have signed all the doc, and paid for the car already.

    Here in Connecticut, once the papers are signed and the car is paid for the buyer becomes an owner. If and when they drive away plays no role in the sale.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,894
    why not?

    So you are telling me someone pays for the car ... meanwhile, outside, a tree falls on the car ... they go outside to "take delivery" and find the car with the tree on it ... are you telling me that you, as a dealer, can just say "hey, too bad, its yours now."???

    As far as I know, and maybe this is a state thing, if you DON'T take delivery, there is no deal. And I know I'm not just pulling this out of the air because Terry has said this many times, too.

    unless, of course, "taking delivery" just means paying for it ... but I don't think so.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    outside, a tree falls on the car ... they go outside to "take delivery" and find the car with the tree on it ... are you telling me that you, as a dealer, can just say "hey, too bad, its yours now."???

    I can't speak for any state other than mine....but If the paperwork is signed and complete the guy owns the car. They don't have to drive the car anywhere.

    Let's say the paperwork and the delivery is done at the consumer home or place of business...the consumer never drove the car off the lot, somebody else did. Does that constitute delivery? When should the change of ownership take place? when the guy drives away regardless of when the paperwork was executed or when the paperwork was completed??
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,894
    That's a good point, too. I really don't know. Wish I knew where to get the proper information.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

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