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  • What's Mazda's track record for rebating new models? Any chance the 5 will see incentives anytime soon?
  • rdrrrdrr Posts: 20
    Mazda Canada's web site has no mention of safety on any of it's vehicles. Would be interesting to see what the results of the rear crash test will be. It might take the next 12 to 24 months to be officially tested if tested at all or the web site to be updated. If Mazda designed the car to protect the 3rd row they must have tested it?
  • wheelz4wheelz4 Posts: 569
    Any word on any running or next model year changes for the 5? Would like to see a front passenger armrest, 5 0r 6 speed automatic and an ipod jack. Some load-levelling shocks in the rear wouldn't be a bad idea as well, due to the reports of it riding low when fully loaded. Other than that, it's pretty much perfect (although I'd like a delete option on the useless side skirts). And I'm sure some people would like the 2.3 turbo from the upcoming CX7!
  • edf4edf4 Posts: 65
    AWD would be great too, or even a limited slip differential for the front drivetrain, as now it fair to poor in the snow and wet, and though better with snow tires, still leaves a lot to be desired. Can't wait for spring, summer, and fall when she'll really shine . . .
  • nym5nym5 Posts: 20
    Ditto on the fugly running boards.
    As far as additions, Mazda should put Stabilty Control, which is available in Europe & Asia, on the N American bound 5's, standard.
    I'm trying to retrofit something like the AirLift system for the rear springs. If I can find the right size I'll try them and report back.
    oh yeah, and an aux input!
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  • dapontdapont Posts: 21
    Late January a home market special edition will be released. Read all about it at: http://www.japanesecarfans.com/news.cfm/NewsID/2060112.002/mazda/1.html

    The "highly popular power dual sliding doors" option is available for US$918. Suppose it's just a matter of time before we get that choice.
  • Mazda 5 shoppers should note recent complaints about the winter-weather effectiveness of the rain-sensing wipers, and about the cosmetics of the running boards. Happy Sport model buyers don't have these items, and didn't pay for them, and have the intermittent wiper setting, the ability to see at a glance how the heating/cooling is set, the ability to add front mudguards, and the choice of all the newest navigation handhelds if we want one.

    Sport and Touring are both good buys, don't get me wrong, but especially on a car where the base model is SO well-equipped, there is a lot to be said for it.

    pagetuner
    http://pagetuner.com/mazda5/
  • wusterwuster Posts: 153
    I think the rain sensing option is on Candian Mazda5's only. My Touring didn't come with rain sensing wipers...just plain old manual switch.

    :)
  • nym5nym5 Posts: 20
    I'm in some agreement with you. I have the Touring and I hate the running boards. But I have to say that climate control is really nice and was the only reason I chose the Touring over the Sport. Of course I figured I'ld just remove the running boards for better aesthetics but to my surprise the car's sheetmetal has about a dozen holes on the side for the attaching clips. I haven't seen a Sport so I'ld love to compare and see if anything is attached to the metal body. Since I know that the 'appearence package' for the Sport includes the running boards I'm wondering how the Sport covers the holes without that option.
    The other plus with the Sport is locating a manual trans version is much easier than a manual Touring. And as for the climate control (not to mention rainsensing wipers...); I know that in Germany, Mercedes and others make a batch of their top line cars (S class, 7 class) with no power anything: manual windows, manual locks etc etc, as there is a small but vocal contingent of German buyers who think that the driver should be in complete control of everything and that the cars only job should be in the engine compartment. This was 10 years ago, perhaps that minority has dwindled to nothing. Hence 'idrive' :sick:
  • Oops. Shows how little time I spent on the Touring option list. Sorry. How about the special tire pressure valves so you can't easily get a set of snow tires on aftermarket wheels. Is that all Tourings, or some, or Canada? It's another item on my list of wretched excess.

    Another item I could do without that even the Sport has, unfortunately, is The Key That Ate Chicago. When your carkey is bigger than your son's MP3 player, something is wrong. (On the other hand, it allows competition: How far can your switchblade fling a quarter?)

    pagetuner
    http://pagetuner.com/mazda5/
  • "there is a small but vocal contingent of German buyers who think that the driver should be in complete control of everything and that the cars only job should be in the engine compartment. This was 10 years ago, perhaps that minority has dwindled to nothing."

    My kind of folks. Cruise control is the best example. My accelerator foot knows how to keep a distance from the car ahead without any thought. Cruise control doesn't, so on the Eastern Seaboard highways I drive, it is more work with cruise on than off.

    And we haven't even started to discuss repair costs when your 5 is ten years old and the climate control dies.

    pagetuner
    http://pagetuner.com/mazda5/
  • nym5nym5 Posts: 20
    "And we haven't even started to discuss repair costs when your 5 is ten years old and the climate control dies"
    lol, so true! I had a Peugeot that had climate control. It was a complex bowl of spaghetti vacuum lines that, once disconnected for repair, could never be put right again.
    And don't forget that airbag systems supposedly (according to M Benz) have a 10 year lifespan....
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    "Cruise control is the best example. My accelerator foot knows how to keep a distance from the car ahead without any thought"

    That sounds nice unless you're doing a 12 hour road trip on open highways and you want to be able to stretch out your foot and move you legs!!
  • wheelz4wheelz4 Posts: 569
    nym5...not too happy to hear about the mounting holes. Figured if I sprung for a 5, the first thing I would do is remove the ugly sills. Could go for a GS (Canadian base version) over the GX but then would miss out on the flip out tray between the rear seats, amoung other things. Boo Mazda! Please get rid of the ugly sills or make them optional. & thanks, edf4....sounds like snows are the way to go.
  • :D It's interesting to read about how everyone has a completely different taste. I chose a MT Sport with the popular package just because I reckoned that without the side sills, fog lights and the back spoiler the M5 would just look like an egg on wheels. Yet, I agree with Pagetuner and the comments on the small German customer contingent. I love that yet manual A/C control and wipers are quite straightforward. Don't take me wrong, I love hight-tech gadgets (i.e. GPS) but rain sensors and auto-climate (which I do believe many are complaining about) are just too much on a smaller car...

    Hey! What's wrong with the key? It looks so different! Just today a friend asked me about it, he wanted know if I was driving an AUDI :P ...
  • I've read several articles that call the Mazda 5 a "MicroVan." Whenever I get asked, "What's a Mazda 5?" that's my answer.
  • I vote for "MicroVan."
    Although that could be confusing since VW may introduce a new MicroBus with Chrysler. Like the MicroVan, the new MicroBus will undoubtedly have sliding doors (like many original MicroBuses) because sliding doors are 'uber cool.' Unlike the MicroVan, the new MicroBus will undoubtedly be anything but micro.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    I'd vote for Mazda3 wagon, but then I'd vote for Ford 500 Wagon for my Freestyle, and Ford Fusion wagon for the new Ford Edge...but I'm sure I'm in the minority! But I think that any crossover, microvan, suv, etc...based on a specific car should be called the wagon version of that car. Or like the Highlander is a Camry wagon. That's the way they used to do it 20 years ago, but the marketers wanted to make the cars sound cooler.
  • twaintwain Posts: 185
    The Edge and the Highlander don't have a traditional wagon shape. Wagons are longer in back. The Highlander has an SUV shape and the Edge has the newer CUV shape. They sacrifice length in the rear to avoid the "wagon" title. The Freestyle would be the closest to a true wagon since it does have some length in the back.
  • resn8rresn8r Posts: 1
    We have a diesel excursion. That was great when diesel was 32 cents cheaper than regular. Now its 32 cents more. (With my chip and pipe, I get a decent 17 MPG in the 4-Ton wonder.) Also, wife wants to pop in to parking places. Once we find a parking place, we shout careful with the doors! Wait! Go out this side! The four kids climb the leather because the slide seat isnt fast enough for them.
    To be continued...
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    I have to agree about reminding the kids to be careful on the sliding doors. There are quite a few problems with the Mazda5's sliding doors on this forum. Personally, I'd rather have the regular doors and just buy those rubber strips for the door's edge to prevent the doors from swinging open and hitting other cars.

    It's also true that today's crossovers don't hang out so much in the back, but that's true with all of today's vehicles. I look at vehicles in terms of , size, price & quality. I first look at size to see if it will fit my needs, then if there are several cars I compare the price, and for the remaining contenders I see which ones have the better reliability stats.
  • bwatersbwaters Posts: 52
    Microvan works for me. Whenever I have to describe our 5 I call it a pregnant Matrix. My sister drives a Matrix and when we park them side by side our 5 looks like a Matrix on steroids.
  • twaintwain Posts: 185
    Whenever I have to describe our 5 I call it a pregnant Matrix.

    LOL I like the Matrix but I've always thought the 1.8 was too small. The 2.3 in the Mazda5 is better. But what I'd really like to see is a diesel with more torque and better mileage.

    BTW, I lke the name first used in Europe...SpaceWagon.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    hear hear...I would be getting one if it had the diesel.

    Joh
  • twaintwain Posts: 185
    hear hear...I would be getting one if it had the diesel.
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    240lbs of torque and 35mpg in a 6pass vehicle? Sounds like a perfect match to me.

    I've read rumors of a hybrid Mazda5 but I'd prefer a diesel. Lower initial cost, better torque and great durability. All with comparable mileage.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    have you seen the link to the Mazda5 diesel they sell in England? 6 speed MT even. It is HOT.

    John
  • I find it interesting that diesels haven't taken off in this country, especially in the last few years. My theory is that people who want to feel like they're saving the environment want everyone else to know they are, too--hence, the popularity of the anemic, heinous Toyota Prius. The so-called "invisible" hybrids from Honda don't sell as well for this reason.

    VW and M-B have tried for years to get the US market to be interested in their diesels, to no avail. Part of the problem is that we all have memories of sooty, belching old Cadillacs and other Detroit diesels from 20-30 years ago. Also, Europe has better, low-sulfur-content diesel fuel, which is (slowly) being mandated in the US. Until it is fully required that all US diesel fuel be low-sulfur, none of the international manufacturers feel it's worth their while to introduce a new diesel engine here. I'm actually sort of surprised anyone bothered to maintain diesel-engined models here at all.

    I'm hoping that with the new fuels and persistently elevated fuel costs, people will realize that contemporary diesels can often be a better choice that hybrids in terms of fuel economy, and that the torque gains make them a lot more fun to drive. :shades:
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    find it interesting that diesels haven't taken off in this country, especially in the last few years

    Old perceptions are hard to kill...most folks think diesels and think black smoke, stinky exhaust, under powered, noisy, high diesel fuel prices ($2.79 vs. 2.39 at the station next door). It's not all true today, but it's what most people think.

    Another reason has to do with the EPA requirements. They made some recent changes with EPA rules that caused some car companies, like Ford to push back diesel engine development a couple years. Ford had a V6 powerstroke ready to go and they pushed it back.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    so... give us the inside scoop. Is Mazda bring the diesel M5 to the US in the next couple years? None of us will shoot you if you let the cat out of the bag.

    John
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