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  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    I asked the question earlier about these and then found a supplier on the Net. This is really cool for Mazda5 and other 5-door owners. Great for tailgating and weekends introducimg your kids to the Great Outdoors.

    http://www.napierenterprises.com

    It can be used alone without the "sleeve" which attaches over the liftgate. Sleeping bags, an ice cooler w/food, a Coleman stove and pan and you are good to go.

    Only $189.95

    Don't forget your digital camera --we want to see pics.

    fowler3
  • sschribersschriber Posts: 89
    I too owned a 1st Gen Odyssey. It was a great car with a perfect interior layout for my family of 5 ( I had the second row captains chairs). It frustrated the heck out of me that there was an 8 year gap between when that first Odyssey was discontinued and the offering of the 2006 Mazda 5. The 3 row wagon/microvan is the best family vehicle layout IMHO ... why can't the US market figure this out.
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    I had the bench seat in the middle and left the third seat folded, best for my use....er..for my dog, so she could run back and forth from side to side to bark at the neighbors. When Honda brought out the big van they lost me -- too much of everything: too wide, too long, too expensive, too much gas.

    Went from the Ody to a Mazda Protegé and loved it. I dislike firm seats and the Pro's seats are almost duplicates of those in the Ody, only lower. And unlike the Ody, the Protegé has a small turning circle and doesn't lean in sharp turns.

    Why am I interested in the MZ5? I miss the Ody van sometimes and wish I had a hatch, but most vans and other cars have wide turning circles. Ever need to make a U-turn quickly on a busy thoroughfare without having to stop, back up, and then pull around? The Mazda5 has the same small turning circle of the Protegé. It can turn from a Left Turn lane make a U-turn and stay in the left lane going in the opposit direction. That's one use for "handling". :)

    Any other car or vehicle I get has to have Mazda's handling, economy, quality, and fun-to-drive. When you look there's nothing out there, especially the size of the Mazda5.

    Why can't Chrysler and GM make the same thing? From the design standpoint, they would get one thing right and ten things wrong. They'd try to please everybody and please nobody. Mazda designs and builds to a particular segment and makes no bones about it. When you buy any other car you are just one more on the road -- when you buy a Mazda you belong to a select group, not necessarily a club, though there are many popping up on the Web. If nothing else you know you made a good decision.

    That's my 2-cents.

    fowler3
    Still zooming at 75 (not mph). ;)
  • cmyers300mcmyers300m Posts: 206
    FYI...the latest Automobile magazine shows that Kia is coming out with a micro-van next spring. It doesn't look bad, but I'd probably opt for the sporty Mazda5. Especially since it has been out a while now.
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    That would be a better choice. The Mazda5 has been on sale in Europe for several years, they call it a "Space Wagon". The Kia may be a new model where the Mazda5 is the North American version of an existing vehicle -- with *experience*. The reason the only recall has been the heat shield problem: they can make them almost fool proof, but they can not make them damn-fool proof.

    Who drives 75mph in second gear in a new car?

    What makes the Mazda5 so sporty is that it has some of the styling attributes of the CX-7 without the higher price. And for 2007 -2008?, Mazda is going to offer leather trim -- probably black. :(

    By then aftermarket suppliers will offer trim packages in other colors using higher quality leather. A light gray with dark gray suede seat inserts would be really cool in more ways than one -- suede doesn't get as hot as leather.

    fowler3
  • wa98stratwa98strat Posts: 66
    It's Ironic that you mention "Why can't Chrysler and GM make the same thing?" Because GM's European and Autrailia Subsidiaries are doing exactly that. Look at Vauxhall's Zafira. It's almost a clone of the 5 (without the sliding doors). For some reason GM seems to think that all North American's want is BIG SUV's. My guess is that's why their sales were down 26% last month and why they have been having such a horrible last couple of years. I think they really beleive that Bush's America's Right to all the oil it wants attitude will save them! It won't They need to start taking a look at what their European divisions are doing! and take a lesson. Especially up here in Canada where 3 out of 4 vechicle sold have a 4 cylinder engine, not GM's tired old V8 technology!
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    GM's tired old technology is right. I saw a Buick Lacrosse yesterday, still a big car, with LED taillights. It takes more than LEDs to make a modern car for the 21st Century. The reason there are so many SUVs is because people started thinking the only safe way to be on the road was to drive the same size vehicle. Not that they actually needed an SUV.

    It's about time people started thinking about smaller vehicles in a realistic way. The time is coming when "I HAVE TO HAVE..." no longer matters and what you can buy, like it or not, does. Washington state is starting a test program taxing drivers on the number of miles they drive annually, which will cause many drivers to re-think where they really have to go. We'll pay for it in miles driven, higher taxes, and higher fuel prices if we don't start thinking smaller.

    The way to pull the road out from under die-hard SUV owners is to limit the amount of gas they can buy at gas stations. They will get tired of waiting in lines going from station to station. ;)

    fowler3
  • Do the middle seats come out? I'll be picking up my 5 on Friday...trading in the thirsty MPV, but a little worried about giving up some space. Hope this is as great a car as everyone says..my buying experience has been less than great.
  • wa98stratwa98strat Posts: 66
    No the middle seats don't come out, but they do fold flat at the same level as the 3rd row, making a level load floor.
  • rdelaneyrdelaney Posts: 5
    I am waiting until the 2007 models come out before I purchase and am trying to get as much information as I can. Hopefully Mazda will address some of the 2006 issues (armrest)but what I am hoping for is a diesel option. At lease they may drive down the price of the 2006 or better still, some used 5's will be out there. Does anyone have any info on the 2007?
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    Based on your buying experience and questions/concerns you still have on the car, why are you buying??? Maybe you should spend some more time looking.
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Don't look for a diesel option. Only some color changes and a leather option for the Grand Touring, a new model. What I would like to be available is the light beige trim on European models. The current trim is too much black.

    On the armrest for the right seat, I doubt Mazda will make that available because it would block the lid on the center console when opened. The reason they left it off.

    The limited number of initial MZ5s is to test the waters for small MAVs. As they sell Mazda will most likely address some of the "issues" in unexpected ways.

    fowler3
  • wa98stratwa98strat Posts: 66
    Dieel would have been a great option. What armrest issue? Do you mean the front passenger armrest? If you put an armrest on the left side of the passenger seat, how are you going to access the the storage compartments in the center console?
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    I think a patient buyer will eventually have a US diesel option. The power train already exists in Europe and Canada, and from what I hear it is a smash. Likely 2008 (possibly a year from now) would be the soonest, because of transitioning fuel and emission issues in the US.

    John
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Does anyone have any info on the 2007?

    They are adding a Grand Touring model with Espresso Brown leather, Xenon HID's. There may be a few other features, I'll have to look into it.
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  • wa98stratwa98strat Posts: 66
    Wishful thinking. There is no Diesel option for the Mazda5 in Canada. I would have been all over that!!
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    hmmm. There was a fella a few months back that claimed he had a Canadian version.

    Or, maybe my memory is bad ;)

    John
  • carquerycarquery Posts: 35
    I've read a few posts about the 2007 model changes that reported the Grand Touring model will offer HID headlights and leather, heated seats. Does anyone happen to know if there are any other differences between the Touring and Grand Touring? Other than the HID, I might just opt to pick my own color leather and get the Touring, but don't want to overlook other features. Thanks.
  • psychoartpsychoart Posts: 17
    HID in Mazda5? Shoot, I got to rethink my next year car. I was thinking to get a Golf V diesel or the Suzuki SX4 as a temporary second cheapo car.
    Well, at least Mazda is responding to my need now if there is a Grand Touring Mazda5 with HID. I could trade my Mazda3 SP23 to a little bigger Mazda5 for the wife, and now I can get something faster, and possibly with AWD.
    The Miata would be nice, but during winter time, it sucks. So it's scratched.
    I like the Mazdaspeed3. It's fast and all. I drive stick shift, but my wife doesn't. That's where the DSG shines in the VW, but I am not going back in a VW.
    The CX-7 is the one with AWD, but I don't like the fact that the car has a higher center of gravity and higher consumption.
    What about Mazdaspeed6? I don't like sedan.
    That may lead me to Subaru WRX STI/Saab 9-2X with HID, or plain Toyota hybrid system w/0 HID (e.g. new Highlander).
    Well, I'll have to see what will be the offering next year.
  • odie6lodie6l Hershey, PaPosts: 1,078
    Or you could just wait and see if they add AWD to the next Mazda5. :shades:

    Odie
    Odie's Carspace
  • Just picked up my M5 tonight, and my dealer said that the 07 will have 3/36000 mile warranty...not 4/50000 like Mazda has now-for those of you who are thinking of waiting for '07!
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    It will be 3/36 bumper to bumper, but will add 5 year 60K miles for powertrain.

    WARRANTY

    2007 Vehicles:

    BUMPER-TO-BUMPER

    Mazda warrants that new 2007 Mazda cars and trucks will be free of defects with normal use and prescribed maintenance for 36 months or 36,000 miles, which ever comes first. Ordinary maintenance items or adjustments, parts subject to normal wear and replacement and certain other items are excluded. This transferable "limited warranty" is included on all new Mazda vehicles sold and serviced in the United States.

    POWERTRAIN LIMITED WARRANTY

    Mazda warrants that the Powertrain Components of new 2007 Mazda cars and trucks will be free of defects with normal use and prescribed maintenance for 60 months or 60,000 miles, which ever comes first. Ordinary maintenance items or adjustments, parts subject to normal wear and replacement and certain other items are excluded. This “limited warranty” is transferable during the warranty period on all new Mazda vehicles sold and serviced in the United States.

    Complement the limited warranty on your new vehicle with the Mazda Extended Protection Plan, the only service agreement backed by Mazda. See your Mazda dealer for details.

    2006 Vehicles:

    BUMPER-TO-BUMPER

    Mazda warrants that new 2006 Mazda cars and trucks will be free of defects with normal use and prescribed maintenance for 48 months or 50,000 miles, which ever comes first. Ordinary maintenance items or adjustments, parts subject to normal wear and replacement and certain other items are excluded. This transferable "limited warranty" is included on all new Mazda vehicles sold and serviced in the United States.

    Complement the limited warranty on your new vehicle with the Mazda Extended Protection Plan, the only service agreement backed by Mazda. See your Mazda dealer for details.
  • wa98stratwa98strat Posts: 66
    Hate to tell you this, but for the 2006 year it's already a 3 year warranty See below. (taken straight from the Mazda website)

    Mazda3, Mazda3 Sport, Mazda5, Mazda6, Mazda6 Sport, Mazda6 Sport Wagon, MAZDASPEED6, CX-7, RX-8, MX-5, MPV

    The basic warranty on Mazda vehicles covers all parts found to be factory defective for 36 Months or 80,000 km, whichever comes first. Additional warranties cover Powertrain components for a period of 5 years or 100,000 km whichever comes first, body sheet metal perforation for 5 years and unlimited mileage and specific emission control components for up to 8 years or 128,000 km.
  • riproyriproy Posts: 57
    Got it last night, very exciting! Getting the windows tinted next week.

    I hope we will see more and more of these vehicles on the road in the near future. I see perhaps one or two a week on Edmonton streets.
  • ntron1ntron1 Posts: 2
    "Hate to tell you this, but for the 2006 year it's already a 3 year warranty See below. (taken straight from the Mazda website)

    Mazda3, Mazda3 Sport, Mazda5, Mazda6, Mazda6 Sport, Mazda6 Sport Wagon, MAZDASPEED6, CX-7, RX-8, MX-5, MPV

    The basic warranty on Mazda vehicles covers all parts found to be factory defective for 36 Months or 80,000 km, whichever comes first. Additional warranties cover Powertrain components for a period of 5 years or 100,000 km whichever comes first, body sheet metal perforation for 5 years and unlimited mileage and specific emission control components for up to 8 years or 128,000 km."

    You are correct, It must suck to be in Canada. we in the USA got 4 years and 50K MILES on our 2006 models.....:)
  • tomekktomekk Posts: 310
    ... and the most important question about 2007 Mazda5 (for me, anyway): will it have stability control (like the Euro model)??? Lack of stability contro is what kept me from buying it in the first place. If 2007 doesn't have it, I'll get something else. (I only wish I knew what!)
  • kivokivo Posts: 64
    I may have missed a post or two, but do the Mazda5's have window tinting, even as an extra? I thought all cars today come through with tinting. My '92 Taurus had it, so I thought most, if not all cars had it today. If not, they certainly should. It keeps the cars cooler and preserves interior materials. I am looking seriously at a 2007 when they arrive, but I would also like stability control.
  • archibaldarchibald Posts: 3
    Mazda does not tint the windows but it is offered by most all dealerships. The reason is that different states have different laws reguarding tinting as well as different preferrences by buyers.
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Mazda registered the MZ5 as a car in the USA. So it does not come with factory tinting like vans and SUVs. Factory tinting is colored glass and does not have the UV filtering tint film offers. Also, film tends to hold shattered glass shards better in an accident.

    Factory tinting is not desireable for many with visual problems and night driving. It prevents them from seeing what is behind when they back up, seeing overtaking vehicles, and general visibility.

    fowler3
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