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Kia Optima 2006.5-2008

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  • mickeyrommickeyrom Posts: 936
    Now come on Backy.Having difficulty finding a car with the options you want does not constitute a problem with the car.
    I will admit that finding a used EX is not easy.Maybe that is because that once somebody buys one they keep it.That is how I am with my Optima.So far it's been a joy.
  • mickeyrommickeyrom Posts: 936
    Some dealers offer only the more expensive flush,but that is not required.I just get the fluid changed approx every two years by a dealer and my warranty is all good.That is more than is required in the owners manual.When I got my change at around 25K miles,they asked me why? They recommended changing the tranny fluid at 30K miles.
  • mickeyrommickeyrom Posts: 936
    What were the symptoms of a bad serpentine? 30K seems like a very early demise for any belt.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,697
    The poster asked if there were "any problems" they should know about. They didn't specify what kind of problem. I think that not having ABS readily available on a modern car is a problem. A big one. If you don't, fine. Can we move on?
  • mikemartinmikemartin Posts: 205
    Guys, I need a fast answer, if possible.

    What warranty protection do I get on a used 2006.5 (new body style) Optima LX?

    I know that the 10 year/100k mile powertrain warranty doesn't transfer, but what about the 5 year/60k bumper to bumper warranty (which includes the powertrain)?

    And if that does transfer, how do I prove the previous owner followed Kia's service schedule?

    I am under the impression that if the previous owner did not follow Kia's service schedule, even on a minor issue, Kia will try to void the entire warranty if I have an issue.

    Any help would be appreciated.
  • mickeyrommickeyrom Posts: 936
    I think that is a question better answered by a dealer.I assume that you don't have the receipts.
    Mike,no offense,but why would you buy a car that hasn't been properly maintained.
    As far as I know,the only maintenance that would affect the warranty would be the oil changes and the tranny fluid changes.That is only if those two units were to fail.Surely not rotating the tires(just an example) would affect your warranty.
    If it were me,I would do a complete service on this car, and thereafter faithfully follow the recommended service while keeping all the receipts.
  • epekarikepekarik Posts: 6
    I find that it shifts up a bit too early, especially when I slowly accelerate up hill. Usually I put it into manual shift and don't shift up till I get to 3500 or 4000 rpm. I might loose a bit of economy, but much easier on the valves.
  • mikemartinmikemartin Posts: 205
    mickey, thanks for the reply.

    I don't know that the prior owner failed to maintain the car per Kia's recommended service schedule.

    What I'm saying is that I'd like to know that they did, and have the records to prove it, in case there's a problem later, and Kia brings the issue up.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,697
    There's not that many options here:

    1) You are buying the car from a Kia dealer. You get them to state, in writing, that the car is covered by the remainder of the 5/60k factory warranty. After that, it's up to you to maintain the car according to the manufacturer's recommended service schedule.

    2) The owner had the car serviced at a Kia or other service center that maintains computer records. You get a printout of those records and verify the car was maintained properly.

    3) The owner has hardcopy records of all servicing, showing the car was maintained properly.

    4) The owner makes a written, sworn (before a notary public) statement that he/she performed all service according to the manufacturer's service schedule (not sure that will satisfy Kia if there's a dispute, but it's better than nothing).

    5) Carfax shows all servicing was done (not real likely, as I've found Carfax unreliable in showing ALL servicing records).

    Or,

    6) You can't verify that the car was serviced according to the manufacturer's schedule, hence buying the car is a crapshoot, in multiple ways.
  • mikemartinmikemartin Posts: 205
    Thanks Backy.

    I'm finding out that warranty issues are an often overlooked technicality by a lot of used car buyers, not just Kia buyers, and if one is not careful, lack of due diligence will come back to bite one in the rear with an expensive and uncovered repair.
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    Was surprised to see the overall evaluation of the 07 Optima to be under eight, especially since it was quite high the last time I checked. Note the large block of extremely low rated comments, things I never see on the forum

    http://www.edmunds.com/kia/optima/2007/consumerreview.html

    --- is there some kind of Toyota salesman out there getting even or does the 07 really suck (earlier and later models don't seem to reflect this), and last time I checked

    http://www.truedelta.com

    had owners experience with the Optima at the top end.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,697
    All the really negative comments are puzzling. Seems to be many cars with multiple transmission failures, head gasket failures, starter failures, etc. But some comments are really strange. Like the one about the owner who had lots of problems starting at 42k miles, so he sold it, and "a month later" the new owner said he'd had lots of "insanely expensive problems" with the car. Which means either that new owner drove over 18k miles on the car in very short time period (so the warranty was used up), or Kia didn't honor the warranty for these problems. :confuse: Then there's the one where "Hyundai" refused to honor the warranty because they said service was not performed at a dealership. Uh, isn't this a KIA??

    Also consider CR's reliability data has the '07 Optima rated "Much above average" (red dot) as of April 2009, which is about the timeframe of many of the negative comments (that issue was published around March 1, 2009). All of the engine and transmission categories are "much above average" also. The timing is... interesting.

    I particularly like "Bev"''s multiple reviews. First she writes a balanced review, some negative but some positive marks. Then someone else posts a review with all 1's. Bev comes back and posts another review a few days after her first, this time with all 1's.

    It's also interesting how some engine and transmission problems can affect a car's comfort, and interior and exterior design--those are 1's too. :surprise:
  • mickeyrommickeyrom Posts: 936
    Either I have been incredibly lucky,or those are posts created by the NRC. I love my KIA and it now has over 30K miles on it.You might remember my problems with the passenger seat air bags,but once that annoying problem was solved,the Optima has been nothing short of perfection.I'll let you know if that ever changes,but all I've done so far is change the oil,rotate tires and one time change the tranny fluid. :shades:
  • mickeyrommickeyrom Posts: 936
    Hi Backy.Sure hope those posts are hoaxes.I love my KIA,but I have to admit reading that crap does have some effect,in a negative way.I hope I don't get paranoid.
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    "It's also interesting how some engine and transmission problems can affect a car's comfort, and interior and exterior design--those are 1's too."

    If you hated everything about it, why were you so stupid as to buy it?
  • mickeyrommickeyrom Posts: 936
    Absolutely right CS.
  • Somebody posted that they had to replace that belt at 30,000 miles.I asked what the symptom was which made them check it.There was no reply to my question,so here I am asking other Optma owners again.Is there something I should be watching for which will give me a hint that my sepentine needs attention?
  • I am referring to the ridiculously hard to get to fuel filter.I had one service supervisor tell me not to bother unless it starts causing problems.I heard the same thing from a certified Chrysler mechanic who I know personally.Anybody have any thoughts on that issue? :confuse:
  • It started "chirping" and kind of squeeling almost like that chain sound that those old volkswagon beetles use to sound like. It didn't happen all the time, but once the car warmed up, it was almost constant and very embarrasing. I was surprised it wasn't covered in my 100,000 mile warranty. I didn't want to pay, so I had my husband do it for me. At first my husband thought it was the idler pulley, and it could have been, so he greased it and while he was in there, he replaced the serpentine belt for about $30.00. So actually it could have been the idler pulley, but just to be safe he changed the serpentine belt anyway. What ever the problem actually was, it never made a noise after. All is fine now, but Kia diagnosed it over the phone as the serpentine belt and was gonna charge close to $200.00 as I remember. Hope this helps.

    Sue
  • This might be too technical a question,but does that idler have bearings or a bushing? I also would like to ask your husband how difficult it was to change that belt without having a lift.
    BTW my KIA is the 2006.5 model with the 4 cylinder engine.Is that the same as yours? Mine has over 31,000 miles on it.
    Of course,I do appreciate the reply.Thank you very much.
  • My Kia Optima is 2007 4 cyl 2.4l. He said it wasn't easy. My husband is a mechanic and he said it was a real challenge. Evidently you need a correct wrench for the tension pulley some special wrench. He didn't buy one and he doesn't know the price. But evidently you can buy one. He made one himself. This is how he did it. It's a real pain to do. He took a regular wrench, cut it in half. (guess it was too long) Grounded it down to an 1/8" wide, then welded it to a round bar 3/8" thick that needed to be 1 and 1/2 feet long. All this because he needed to work from above and make it fit between the pulley and the fender well. He also said he needed to make bends in the 1 and 1/2" bar to clear the altinator. He said it was real hard to get to and suggests you either buy this so called special tool or pay kia. For us it was a matter of principal. We didn't want to pay kia for something that in my opinion shouldn't have died so quickly!

    Sue
  • Oh, that was me that posted the 30,000 mile serpentine complaint a while back. Sorry I didn't get back to you when you initially asked. I didn't remember getting that email. Sorry. ~ Sue
  • That about does it for me...I guess I will be paying somebody when the time comes.Thank you very much for the information.
  • All's well that ends well...what a coincidence LOL :D
  • jpfjpf Posts: 496
    Consider having a fuel system service every 20k or 25k. The service cleans the injectors and purges the fuel system of any gunk that's built up. Good luck.
  • What exactly is a Fuel system service? Is that in addition to or instead of changing the filters?
  • it's a service in which they clean our your car's engine's fuel injector's. Blasts out any gunk and junk that may have accumulated in there. Improves performance and fuel economy. Pretty good idea to have done.

    Our '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS is soon to get it's 45,000 mile service and if the dealer's package doesn't include this I am thinking I'll have them add this fuel injector service to the rest of the maintenance package for us.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • They have such a service at Walmart.I have been putting injector cleaner into my fuel tank.No comment about filters?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,697
    I have read that with today's injector-cleaning gasolines, a separate injector cleaning service is not required, and can actually damage the car e.g. O2 sensors. I used to use fuel injector cleaner but stopped when I heard that. I've never had any problems with injectors in over 20 years of owning fuel-injected cars.
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