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Audi A4 Lease Questions

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  • Got the Car. No Games.

    2012 A4 Prem Plus 3 yr 12K/yr

    ZERO out of pocket
    MSRP $40250

    Lease $476/mo x 35mo (no 1st mo)
  • Hi smee17. Audi Financial Services' October buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 48-month lease of a 2012 A4 2.0 Sedan Premium with quattro and 15,000 miles per year are .00179 and 49%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    I would be happy to use this lease program to work up a sample payment for you, but in order for me to do so I need you to provide me with an approximate selling price for the vehicle that you're interested in.

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  • MSRP:42600
    2012 a4 premium plus with a few extras

    3 year 15000 mile lease, audi care also

    $662 mo w/ $1607 at start. audi makes 1st payment up to $600.

    car trade in 10000

    car wouldn't be in till nov(dealer trade) so i would have to put a deposit down and plans change in nov

    please help... im thinking a no deal, any suggestions would help, if more info needed please reply
  • mankumanku Posts: 33
    A good rule of thumb on leasing is the 1% rule, which means your monthly payment should be around 1% of the msrp of the vehicle ASSUMING nothing down. It should include all fees except registration etc...

    For example, I lease a 2008 A4 convertible for $441/month including CA tax (8.75%) back in 2008...it had a MSRP of just over 45K...my drive off was around 850 (1st month, dmv)...so I was actually less than 1%...which is extremely rare.

    You are close to 1.4%, which is dreadful...furthermore, NEVER put down a deposit down on a car as common as an A4! You can actually lease a 2011 E350 for less than your quote - a 55k+ car.

    My current lease is for a 2011 A4 Avant...MSRP of 39500...I got Audicare too...my monthly works out to 436 before tax...so about 1.1% which is solid.
  • rjorge3rjorge3 Posts: 138
    Hey Jerry, where did you get that deal....I am being quoted $525 (starting neg just emailing back and forth) for a 2012; Premium Plus, Quattro, Manual with only Nav and sport package, it is White (no cost paint); 12k miles and I requested no cap cost red in the quote, but they have not gotten back to me about the other fees. I am in the NY tri-state area.

    So, you gave nothing down (for fees?) nada? That seems like a great price, heck, I guess I dont even have to bring my check book then...
  • Rjorge,

    $525 doesn't sound bad with Nav & sport pak. Mine has neither but does have metallic paint.
    I live in S. NJ (Philadelphia area).
    Only other thing is that I had $750 loyalty from Audi so you would probably be in the $500 range anyway.

    Cherry Hill Imports, Cherry Hill, NJ

    Jerry
  • Just to add my input to this discussion.

    Yes, the residual & money factor are both important factors when considering a lease deal. But, & this is a big but...they are both set by the bank/finance company and in most, if not all cases, are NON-NEGOTIABLE. The money factor can changes based on your credit rating, but you can't negotiate it. The residual is based on the term of the lease & mileage, also non negotiable.

    Therefore the only things you can negotiate on your lease deal, just like on a buy, is the selling price of the car, and maybe some additional fees. That is the price that the residual will be subtracted from to leave the amount that the money factor will be applied to to come up with your monthly payment.

    My deal was good (I think) because I negotiated a great selling price(below invoice) on the vehicle and the dealeragreed to absorb some of the fees that I could have been responsible for like bank fees, registration, doc fees, etc. I had no control over the residual & money factor. They remained constant at every dealer I went to(4 of them)...

    At todays money factors a couple of thousand $$$ difference in price could translate to $60 less per month.

    hope this helps.

    Jerry
  • thank you for you reply.. i was wondering how you figured out that percent? i got several quotes from other dealers in the Detroit metro area and their deal were 600-700 dollars a month... which is very dreadful...if you have any tips, suggestions. i would greatly appreciate it..
  • peekay1peekay1 Posts: 59
    Hi jerrynmnk:

    Can you send me the details of this lease? I'm looking to lease an A4 Quattro Premium with style pkg, convenience pkg, and heated seats in Nashville, TN (I'm assuming an 8.0% tax rate) for 36 months/15k miles. The MSRP on this combination is $38,025. I've agreed upon a price of $35,275 ($2,750 less than MSRP), and that brings my payments to $534/mo. Nowhere near the great deal you got for a more expensive car. Here are my calculations:

    MSRP = $38,025
    MF = 0.00151
    Residual = 56% ($21,294)
    Tax = 8.0%
    Acq. Fee = $695
    Agreed Price = $35,275
    Net Cap Cost = $35,970 ($35,275+$695)

    Depreciation = (Net Cap Cost - Residual) / Term
    $407.67 = ($35,970 - $21,294)/36

    Finance fee = (Net Cap Cost + Residual ) × Money Factor
    $86.47 = ($35,970 + $21,294) x 0.00151

    Pre Tax payment = $407.67 + $86.47 = $494.14
    Payment (incl 8% tax) = $533.67

    I think my calculations are pretty sound. So my questions are: what was your agreed upon price, what residual value and money factor did you get? What is your tax rate? I feel like the price I've negotiated is pretty good, who knows, maybe I can do better? Thanks for your help.
  • scuscu Posts: 1
    Hey Car Man,

    I was hoping you could assist me with residual, money factor and payment on an Audi A4-Premium Plus (automatic) with GMBH Wheels and Navigation. The MSRP is $42,250 but I should be able to negotiate the price of the car to $40,756. I am looking for a 39 month lease with either 10K or 12k mileage.

    Thank you
  • Car Man,

    Can you please provide residuals and money factor for 2012 A4 Premium Plus and also Prestige - 15K for 36 and 48 months.

    Thanks,

    CPS2010
  • rxkerxke Posts: 153
    Hi
    I received a quote of $523 (includes NY tax of 7.375%) for 12,000/39 months.
    MSRP: $38,580 / Invoice: $35,942 /Sale price: $36,300 + tax and fees.
    Residual: 56%/Money factor: .00171
    Total due at delivery: $1,918.59

    Is this a good deal? Your help is always appreciated.
    Thanks
  • Hi Car Man,

    can you please give me the Oct MF and Residual % for a 2012 A4 Avant Quattor with premium plus. I'm looking for a 3 yr lease and 15k per year.

    Thanks in advance.
  • Where does a trade-in or down payment come in when you look at Peekay1's calculations above?

    Thanks for the help.
    Mike
  • Hi Car Man,

    My lease is about to run out on my Audi A4. The End of lease shows 22,680 online. I talked to Audi Services the phone and they said if I buy the car I will be charged a 350.00 Admin fee, not turn in fee for buying the car. Does this sound right? I also asked the dealer, Audi Directly and Audi Services about my supplier discount. When I leased the car my 6% discount didn't apply, only 3% towards the leased price. So now that I am buying the car at the end of the lease I asked all of the above if the remaining 3% discount would apply and no one seems to have the answer.

    I am getting a very bad taste in my mouth from the whole end of process and Audi services trying to sell me a extended warranty if I buy the car through them!!

    Thanks,

    Dil
  • i am at the end of my current 36 mo. lease and have been negotiating for a new A4 lease. I noticed that they are quoting the fee for audicare now @ $800 and the acq fee @ $695. My old (< 3yrs ago) lease i paid $650 and $575 respectively. these seem like huge increases. are they set? is there any room to negotiate?
  • I'd be happy to help you out, scu. Audi Financial Services' October buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 39-month lease of a 2012 A4 Sedan Premium Plus quattro with 12,000 miles per year are .00171 and 56%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The residual value for a lease with only 10,000 miles per year would be 1% higher.

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  • Hey cps2010. Audi Financial Services' October buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 A4 Sedan Premium Plus quattro with 15,000 miles per year are .00151 and 56%, respectively for its top credit tier.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical 48-month lease are .00179 and 49%.

    The numbers for the '12 A4 Sedan Prestige quattro are .00151 / 52% and .00179 / 45%.

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  • Hey rxke. This looks like a good deal to me. The selling price that you were quoted is only a couple hundred dollars over dealer invoice and the money factor is in-line with AFS' buy rate for this model. If you like the car...go for it.

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  • I'd be happy to help you out marker70. Audi Financial Services' October buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 A4 Avant Premium Plus with 15,000 miles per year are .00142 an 57%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

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  • Hi dilbertic. Unfortunately, the fact that you qualify for Audi's Supplier Purchase Program will not entitle you to any discount when you purchase your leased vehicle at the end of its term.

    The $350 admin fee to purchase your vehicle at lease-end doesn't surprise me all that much. Many banks charge such a fee. I said that I wasn't surprised, but that doesn't mean that I find fees like this annoying. I personally can't stand disposition or purchase option fees.

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  • I was hoping you could tell me if this is a good deal or not.

    I just got a quote for a 2012 Audi A4 2.0 TFSI® Premium Plus with eight-speed Tiptronic® transmission and quattro® with the below specs for $500 per month + tax for a 36 month lease 10,000 miles per year with zero down. I would have to pay the title, tags, tax etc.

    This is for a car dealership in the Boston area.

    Black exterior and Black interior
    5 spoke tires
    Audi navigation
    Rear side airbags
    Rear acoustic parking sensors

    Do you think this was a good deal or should I have negotiated lower? The MSRP on this vehicle is $42,675.
  • Hi nualakerr1. It would be easier for us to evaluate this deal if you were able to provide us with this car's selling price. the selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable, just as if you were paying cash for or financing them. Without this number, it is more difficult to tell how large a discount you are being given and in turn if there's any room left to negotiate.

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  • Hi Car_man,

    Can you give me the A4 Avant Premium and Premium plus Residual/MF for Nov for 36 month/36K? If there are any better lease offers (39 month, etc.) please include that as well.

    Thanks again!
    Anthony
  • Hi car man,

    Can you give me the November rates for a 2012 Audi A4 Premium Quattro for 36 months with 10K and 12K miles? Are there any rebates and incentives right now?

    For an A4 premium quattro auto transmission with style, technology package and heated front seats MSRP $38025, invoice $35,425, is $36000 a good price to target?

    Thanks,
    Josh
  • Josh - i just came from an audi dealer in central NJ and he told me that they will go $1,400 UNDER INVOICE for A4 Sedans and $1,000 under invoice for Avant's.

    Anthony
  • Hey jerry,

    I am in jersey as well and looking at the same car.

    Who did you deal with at cherry hill imports? Was the negotiating done in person or via phone or email? Also, did you have to really negotiate hard or were they pretty reasonable?

    Thanks!
  • Hi Anthony. Audi Financial Services' November buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2012 A4 Avant Premium with 12,000 miles per year are .00125 and 58%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of an Avant Premium Plus are exactly the same.

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  • Hi Josh. Audi Financial Services' November buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 A4 Sedan Premium quattro with 12,000 miles per year are .00133 and 57%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The residual value for a lease with only 10,000 miles per year would be 1% higher.

    As far as cash incentives go, Audi is waiving the first month's payment on leases of this car right now. There's a $750 owner loyal cash incentive on leases on top of that.

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  • I think I just got a good deal...but seems others may have better...?

    Premium with conveniencepackage

    34k...1500 down (taxes and all that, nothing DOWN) makes it 474/mo

    The plus he said would be about 54/no more and wanted to keep it under 500. Ideas?

    Hevtriedbto show me abdeal with 3600 down...butbi dont want to put any downThanks!
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