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Audi A4 Lease Questions

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  • bocmcmbocmcm Posts: 1
    My 2009 A4 Sedan lease is up this month. In expressing an interest to purchase, dealer had a 1.9% interest rate available but to qualify I'd have to purchase a $3,000 Certified Extended Warranty. And that does not include any repair costs (like new brakes) to meet Audi Certified standards.
    I would finance balance for 2 years and drive for at least another 3 years.

    Questions:
    1. Is this a good investment or simply the dealer trying to make $3K++ off me?
    (Just had a friend hit year 4 (post warranty) with a BMW and got hit with $3K in engine / computer repairs so this investment might be worth considering)

    2. Are there better deals through Warranty Brokers that will provide comparable extended warranty coverage? If so, any recommendations?
  • zeerazeera Posts: 18
    Hi
    I am in the same boat as you are... my 2009 A4 lease is up and I am planning to purchase at the end (in a week) - it is interesting coz I was quoted 2.99% and the warranty is optional - it is up to us - I highly doubt they can tie up the rate to warranty. the rate should be tied to your credit score.

    also - is buying at the end of the lease a better option than to lease a new one?
    if I buy it is coming out to approx 434 per month - and if lease a new one - I was able to get it down to approx 510 (exact same car) - i wonder if those $75 more is worth not dealing with a car that has 50K miles on it.
  • jordanttjordantt Posts: 3
    my relative around December got a A4 premium plus from a broker... We get all out cars through them. Whats the point of buying out your used car when payment comes out more not less than a new one? And you will most likely will be dealing with problems from the car. My relative did the same thing and Audi was giving trouble with what they would cover. So look around and look at the different options. I'm in NY i don't know if that makes a difference. Hope this helps.
  • zeerazeera Posts: 18
    Thank you jordantt - i know that makes the right sense. its just that returning the car and paying for the worn out tires and the repocession fee seem a little ... hmmm should i just buy out and use that money towards downpayment.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    You're welcome jg22. Do you happen to know the selling prices for these deals? That would be a big help in evaluating them.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    No problem audieddy. I'm glad that I was able to help you out. See you around :).

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hey gohatters. $500 over invoice plus the use of the buy rate money factor is a good deal.

    Just make sure that the dealer takes the $750 loyalty cash or $1,000 conquest cash into account if you are eligible for either.

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  • pljsonpljson Posts: 1
    I'd like another set of eyes to review the numbers on a deal I'm currently working on in NJ. Vehicle specifics:

    36-months / 10,000 Miles

    - 2012 A4 Premium Plus
    - Quattro
    - Nav
    - Advanced Key
    - Rear Accoustic Parking Sensor
    - Metallic Paint

    MSRP: $43,600

    Cap Reduction: $0

    Inceptions: $4,0462.16
    --- First Month Payment: $465.00
    --- License: $371.00
    --- Dealer Docs: $349.00
    --- Acquisition: $695.00
    --- NJ Sales Tax: $1,305.71
    --- NJ Tire Tax: $7.50
    --- AUDICARE (includes Tax): $868.95

    Monthly Payment: $465.00

    I'm happy with it and am about to pull the trigger.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks in advance.
  • gohattersgohatters Posts: 10
    Thanks. Unfortunately, they just changed the lease deal and added another $1k do the down payment. I think I'll wait and see if the better deal comes back next month
  • mashurimashuri Posts: 1
    edited March 2012
    I am considering a lease on a new 2012 A4 2.0T Quattro Premium Plus & Tripto. I am in Washington state and would appreciate feedback if this is reasonable.

    A4 2.0T Quattro Prem Plus w\ Tripto. Std black paint.
    Sale price: $37,400 + $350 "fees"

    36 mo term .00155 factor 56% residual
    $3k out of pocket
    $495 mo

    or the same terms for $0 down; $590 month

    How does this compare?
  • In my case, the difference for the dealer is 23000 dollars~!!!! Ridiculous. No where on earth is my Q7 worth 55k. This is ridiculous and should be stopped. Was not disclosed. I was not aware this was the case as is wasn't so with previous leases.
    it's totally stupid too. so i can buy the car for 30 and sell it to the dealer for 30. i send the morons in inglstaad a check and the dealer hands me a check. it's just an extra step for me to get out of this horrible bull. but yeah, THEY MAKE ME PAY TAXES ON IT!!!!! ABSURD! DO NOT LEASE WITH AUDI!
  • zeerazeera Posts: 18
    Hi
    I have a supplier certificate that lets me have the car at invoice price... now - is invoice price a GOOD DEAL? or can we go lower?
    any thoughts? please let me know.
  • epd2006epd2006 Posts: 2
    Any info on MF and residual for 2012 A4 Avant? Thanks!
  • Car man- and/or anyone else that can help me...

    Hi all!! I'm new to this forum and have never really leased a car on my own, my 2 previous Audi's were negotiated by & registered under my father, and was hoping you could give me some advice. I will be leasing a new car this week, and will likely choose an A4 again. I went to an Audi dealership in NJ and they gave me the following lease deal:

    2012 Audi A4 2.0T Sedan tiptronic quattro in brilliant black with beige interior and:

    -dark walnut wood inlays
    -heated fron seats
    -convenience package
    -exhaust tips v/o
    -style package

    Lease for 36 months, 12,000 miles per year:

    - without AudiCare- 1692 down for basic inceptions and first months payment, $412.50 per month including taxes OR

    -With AudiCare (which I will likely choose), $1706 down, $426.04 per month including taxes.

    The msrp for this car is $38,375 and the invoice amount is $36,133.50. I honestly don't know what the selling price is or should be. I was wondering if someone could tell me if this is a good deal or not, and what the buy rate lease money factor is for it (and how I would use that number). I was given the Audi loyalty incentive for presently owning another Audi.

    Any help would be so greatly appreciated as soon as possible...I hope to close the deal this Thursday!!

    Thanks so much :)
  • Car_Man or Kyfdx-
    2012 A4 Premium Plus (non-metallic paint) Quattro 36 month lease, 12k/year, $2,700 Total Out-of-Pocket. Including last two payments = $570 (VW Jetta - a couple of scratches and dents) and disposition fee of $350 worked in the deal.
    MONTHLY PAYMENT - $435/month.

    Left a deposit today. Is this a good deal??????? Dealer in Northern NJ.

    Note: Qualified for To Tier Credit.

    Thanks for all your help…
  • nanz236nanz236 Posts: 1
    Hi Carman,

    I have a quote for Audi A4 2.0T Premium Plus Quattro, 36months, 15K miles :
    MSRP : 40250
    Neg Price: 37495
    Money Factor : .0008
    Residual : 53% (21332.5)
    Acquisition : 695
    Cash (first month with tax+sec Deposit+Doc+Title fee) : 1427 (546.8+550+331)
    Monthly payment(Base+tax) : 515.77+30.95

    Is this considered a good deal? Do the numbers add up to give me the monthly payment right?

    In addition, the car has 190miles on it and probably because people test drive on it. Will that give me any discount or 190 is nothing at all.

    Really appreciate your help!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi zeera. Sorry for the delay in my response, I have been away. Dealer invoice is indeed a very good selling price for an A4. Plus it's nice that you have the certificate so you don't have to mess with haggling. Have people gotten one for less than invoice, perhaps but most people probably do not.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Here you go epd2006. Audi Financial Services' April buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 A4 2.0 Avant Premium with 15,000 miles per year are .00070 and 53%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Welcome audigirl98. Since you are new to leasing, you definitely should check out the following informative articles on the subject that are available here at Edmunds.com: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.

    In short, the easiest way to get a good deal on a leased vehicle is to shop around for the lowest possible selling price and then have the dealer that you decide to go with calculate your vehicle's monthly payment using its buy rate lease money factor.

    If I was in the market for an A4 in your area right now, I personally would shoot for a selling price of $500 or so over dealer invoice before the deduction of any incentives. If you are a current Audi owner or lessee, you would be eligible for a $750 owner loyalty cash incentive on leases of this car. Make sure to take this cash into account.

    Once you have negotiated a selling price that you are comfortable with, have the dealer calculate your monthly payment using Audi Financial Services' buy rate lease money factor of .00080.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hello gerrysalme. Audi Financial Services' April buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 A4 Sedan Premium Plus with quattro and 12,000 miles per year are .00080 and 55%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier. Make sure that the dealer uses these terms to calculate your payment.

    You never mentioned this car's selling price, but you should shoot for a price of around $500 over invoice minus any available cash incentives.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi nanz236. The money factor that you posted looks good. It's right in line with AFS' current buy rate for this model.

    Assuming that it isn't taking any loyalty cash into account the selling price that you were quoted looks great too. You are probably already getting this car for pretty close to dealer invoice. 190 miles isn't very much, so the dealer is probably already discounting the car for that.

    This looks like a good deal for this model to me.

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  • toady86toady86 Posts: 2
    edited April 2012
    Car man, thanks for all the info that you have previously posted.
    I am looking at a new a4 premium plus, sport package, etc.. msrp is $43,150, I am looking to get it around $39k, if not lower.
    Assuming a purchase price of $39K what would be the money factor and residual, on a 3 year lease with 15k miles per year?
    I just checked my credit score and per Experian it's 793.

    I will definitely go over on mileage, I will try to get .15 for mileage overage (that is what work will reimburse over 15k miles annually. I am allowed to buy an additional 5k miles up front for a combined 20k per year. Confused yet..)

    Dealer is in NJ
    Thanks for the help.
  • toady86toady86 Posts: 2
    The deal I am holding on that car is $550 month, 15k miles, $0 down for 3 years.
    I was told that Audi does not negotiate excess mileage at the beginning of the lease but will half way through it for a discounted rate of .18 or .20 per.
  • meb415meb415 Posts: 1
    Hi. I was quoted what looks to be a very high lease rate, even more so with what appears to be a larger than normal down payment.

    The car is a 2012 A4 Premium Quatro (MSRP $38,500/"internet price" of $36,960) and when asked what I could put down I answered $5,000. That appears to have been a stupid move on my part.

    Anyhow, with no credit check or anything they offered a 36/month lease at $486/month with 10,000 miles/year. The dealer is in Northern Virginia, just a few minutes outside of Washington, D.C. As I read of other buyers in NJ and elsewhere in Mid-Atlantic states, it seems for similar MSRPs they are getting a lease payment $50-$60 less/month.

    Any advice on this? I called a second dealer in the area and he came back with a payment of $466/month on an Audi A4 with MSRP of $38,500.
  • When will the residual and MF for May become available?
  • mx1600imx1600i Posts: 1
    Looking for advice on whether this deal is good enough to accept or if I should negotiate further

    2012 A4 premium plus FWD, monsoon gray with navigation and rear sensors
    Lease term: 30 months in California

    MSRP : 40780
    Neg. Cap Cost: 37500
    Money Factor : .00053
    Residual : 57%
    Acquisition Fee: $695
    Other Fees: Cap fees: $37.75, Cap taxes: $152.26, License Fees $354, Doc Fees $55

    Downpayment: $3500
    Net monthly payment w/ taxes and fees: $488.54/month

    I've negotiated quite a bit to get to the above terms; in fact, one of the dealers is already saying the dealer who offered me this quote above is crazy. That being said, in trying to calculate the lease payment myself, I believe there is still room to go down but I'm not sure.

    Should I continue trying to negotiate and if so, how much lower should I go on either the cap cost or the net monthly payment? Please also tell me if this deal is too good to be true and I should be wary.

    Thanks in advance for the advice.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hey toady86. Audi Financial Services' April buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 A4 2.0 Premium Plus Sedan quattro with 15,000 miles per year are .00080 and 53%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi gerrysalme. I believe that Audi is scheduled to publish its May lease program some time on the 2nd of the month.

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  • I look forward to Audi's May Lease Program. Thank you Car_man.
  • laurarose1laurarose1 Posts: 3
    I have a 2009 A4 2.0T Premium. Lease is due in 1 month. I was going to trade it in and get a new lease (Was in excellent condition - only 16,000 miles); however, just this past weekend I scraped the car. I am guessing about $1,500 in damage. Do I repair the body damage first? (I have a 1,000 deductible on insurance), or can I trade it in like this? Has anyone ever done that??

    P.S. Is there info on residual and MF for May?
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