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Audi A4 Lease Questions

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hello the412. Audi Financial Services' May buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 A4 Sedan Premium FWD with 12,000 miles per year are .00016 and 53%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a '12 A4 Sedan Premium Plus quattro with 12,000 miles per year are .00026 and 54%.

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  • gbell80gbell80 Posts: 1
    edited June 2012
    Car_man, I am looking into leasing an Audi, A4 quattro w/15,000 miles per year, 3 years - do you think it makes sense to lease the 2012 vs. the 2013? I assume the residuals for the 2012's will drop significantly once the 2013's are fully rolled out. Were there big changes for the 2013 vs the 2012?

    Any idea what the residual & MF is for June, and what the difference for these is for the 2012's vs the 2013's?

    Thanks!
  • backroadbackroad Posts: 12
    Car Man, May I offer the same question here on A4 quattro sedan except for12K miles/yr '12 vs. '13 on mf/residual? I realize the rates are probably just posting now.

    Thank you!
  • brahmjotbrahmjot Posts: 3
    edited June 2012
    Hi Car_man,

    I will be entering lease for the 2013 A4 this weekend and am based out of seattle. I have very good credit worthiness.

    Please let me know:
    1) MF and Residual for the Premium Quattro model for 36 month/10K miles lease
    2) MF and Residual for the Premium plus Quattro model for 36 month/10K miles lease

    I have seen some posts having the MF as 0.00016. Is it 0.00016 (interest rate: 0.384%) OR 0.0016 (interest rate: 3.84%).
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi gbell80. The residual values are definitely higher for the 2013 model, but the money factor is significantly better for the 2012 model...making it the better deal right now.

    Audi Financial Services' June buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 A4 Sedan Premium quattro with 15,000 miles per year are .00026 and 52%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a 2013 model are .00152 and 56%.

    The 2013 model is a little different than the 2012, but it's far from a complete redesign. It's supposedly slightly more fuel efficient and has a few minor styling changes, but the engine is basically the same.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hey backroad. Please see my previous post for the information that you're looking for. AFS' 12,000 mile per year residual values are 2% higher than its 15,000 mile per year residuals.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Here you go brahmjot. Audi Financial Services' June buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 A4 Sedan Premium quattro with 10,000 miles per year are .00152 and 59%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a Premium Plus are exactly the same.

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  • humphreyehumphreye Posts: 1
    Hi Carman (or others):
    Does anyone have info on residuals and money factor for the new 2013 audi allroad? Does anyone have experience with cap cost (i.e., any discounts to MSRP being offered by dealers)?
    Thank you!
  • zkaudiozkaudio Posts: 60
    This car needs its own forum... it's pricing is completely different from the A4 sedan.
  • precurs0rprecurs0r Posts: 2
    Hi Car_Man -

    I received this quote from a local dealership in Western NY. It is for a 2013 Audi A4 Premium Plus with a Manual Transmission. This is base, without any additional options such as the nav. He quoted me on 42 months, but am looking for 36 unless there is a significant savings.

    -- All lines below from dealer --

    MSRP $38,495
    Selling Price $37,058
    Purchase Option $21,522.25

    Up Front Cost:
    1st Payment - $496.13
    Fees and Insurance - $165 ( 75 Doc Fee + 10 Insp + 80 Reg)
    Taxes - $ 1842.34 (NYS 8.75)
    Total $2503.47

    Residual is 55%
    Money Factor is .00172

    Lead time on this car will be 8-12 weeks -- Again all based on a 42mo 10K miles per year Lease

    If anyone else has any insight on this quote, I would greatly appreciate it.
  • I'm evaluating a lease offer on a 2013 A4 Premium Plus. How do these numbers look and any word if Audi is doing the 2012 Summer of Audi Event?

    Payment Details

    Term
    36
    Base Payment
    578.13
    Total Payment w/ tax
    624.38
    Purchase Option
    26,745.80
    MSRP
    45,510.00
    Selling Price
    43,056.08
    Est. Miles Per Year
    12,000
    Disposition Fee
    350.00
    Excess Mileage Charge
    0.25

    Payment Details

    Term
    36
    Base Payment
    602.56
    Total Payment w/ tax
    650.76
    Purchase Option
    25,835.60
    MSRP
    45,510.00
    Selling Price
    43,056.08
    Est. Miles Per Year
    15,000
    Disposition Fee
    350.00
    Excess Mileage Charge
    0.25

    Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I've asked for the APR/money factor used from the dealer.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    I certainly do humphreye. Audi Financial Services' June buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a new 2013 allroad Premium or Premium Plus with 15,000 miles per year are .00150 and 56%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

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  • swamivswamiv Posts: 6
    Hello Car_man - do you have the residual/MF for a 2013 A4 Prestige? 15/12/10k miles.

    Thanks in advance!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Certainly swamiv. Audi Financial Services' June buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 A4 Sedan Prestige with quattro and 15,000 miles per year are .00152 and 52%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The residual value for a lease with only 12,000 miles per year would be 2% higher. The 10k residual would be 3% higher.

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  • dinglenutz1223dinglenutz1223 Posts: 4
    edited July 2012
    Hi all,

    I got back from a dealership in NJ, and this is what they offered me. This is for a 2012 Audi A4 Quattro, Premium Plus w/ B & O stereo for 15K miles / year.

    MSRP : $41,450
    Selling price : $38,008 (This is $1000 under invoice as he showed me.)
    My trade-in value : $13,500 ( I was hoping for $14,500 as I checked Edmunds, NADA, and KBB for the values, and $14,500 was the supposed market value for my car)
    Residual Value : 52%
    Money factor : .00026
    Registration : $396
    Bank fee : $695
    Doc fee : $349
    Tax : $332.58 (He said this is low because of my trade-in. this includes a $7.50 tire tax)
    My monthly payment would be $153.50 for 36 months.

    All in all, I was getting $1000 less on my trade-in than I was hoping for. And, I was hoping to knock the price of the MSRP down to $4000, rather than $3400. I was hoping for a monthly payment for $100-125, 125 being the max. I was over that amount, so I asked them to throw in Audi Care for the $153 a month. They balked, and I left the dealership.

    Any thoughts greatly appreciated. Also, I'm thinking of reducing my miles to 12K miles, which would probably help my cause. I figure I might not need 15K miles anymore, as I did a lot of driving over the past 2 years, but I foresee less driving so I may not need 15K miles / year.
  • bartleby2bartleby2 Posts: 2
    Does anyone know the July residual and money factor for a 2013 Allroad Premium Plus or Prestige? The dealer is pushing the 42 month lease at 10k per year which would work for me. Thanks in advance.
  • jimmy62jimmy62 Posts: 6
    While shopping for a new A4 in Dallas the salaman said they would sell any 2012 for invoice. In San Antonio, where the had no 2012s, the offer was $550 over invoice.
  • miggsv17miggsv17 Posts: 3
    Hi Car_Man

    I just started shopping around for a 2013 audi A4 premium plus monsoon/blk with and without navigation and was quoted the following:

    Residual/MF 36 mo/12K --> 58% /.00136 (im hoping this is what matches your july rates

    For the Monsoon/blk with Premium Plus (no Nav)
    MSRP $40,660
    Our Selling Price $39,060

    For the Monsoon/black
    MSRP $44,370
    Our Selling Price $42,870

    I know these are above invoice, i was wondering if anyone had a good idea what to shoot for?

    edmunds TMV says:

    Total Price (navigation)
    Inv/MSRP/TMV $40,258/$43,220/$41,285

    Total Price (no navigation)
    Inv/MSRP/TMV $37,421/ $40,170 /$38,374

    im pretty sure i matched the invoices exactly to my build but the MSRPs are off.... What do you think a fair starting price for negotiating? Start at invoice and pay up to the TMV price?

    Also summer of audi will pay 1st months payment. I dont believe i qualify for any other incentives.
  • thedjmthedjm Posts: 2
    So I was checking my audifs.com account page the other day and saw that the remainder of my lease term and contract amount was within my grasp to payoff. I also noticed this line item on the payoff page for a good sized chunk of the total:

    Rebate Unearned Rent Charge:
    'A portion of each of your scheduled payments is a rental charge. Paying off your lease early entitles you to receive a rebate for this amount'

    Thinking this meant what it said, I contacted Audi and asked what my actual payoff would be, expecting it to be the "Scheduled payments not yet due" MINUS the "Rebate Unearned Rent Charge", which is essentially the finance charge on the term of the lease contract.

    Come to find out, that doesn't mean what it says. What "Rebate Unearned Rent Charge" actually means, is:
    'A portion of each of your scheduled payments is a rental charge. Converting your lease to a full purchase of the vehicle entitles you to receive a rebate for this amount'

    Wondering of I just got some bunk info from the CSR on the other end of the line, I thought I'd run this past everyone here and see if they have any info before I call them back again and ask to talk to someone who can explain why the web page says what it does.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,921
    I think their interpretation is correct... By "payoff", they mean the payoff for buying the car, not for paying off the rest of your lease payments...

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  • thedjmthedjm Posts: 2
    That may be the case. Unfortunate that one can do a "one payment" lease and save the finance charges, but cannot prepay mid-term. This is of course different than a purchase where one can prepay at any point in the loan and forgo the remaining interest payments.
  • geo22201geo22201 Posts: 2
    Car_Guy,

    I just leased a 2013 A4 Premium Plus Quattro and want to see if the deal was reasonable:

    Traded-in (Dealer Paid off Net -$0.00) 2009 BMW 328i Sedan

    $45,760.00 – Sticker
    $43,067.00 – Lease Price

    Plus:

    $ 1,411.91 – Taxes
    $ 93.50 – Registration
    $ 399.00 – Doc Fee
    $ 695.00 – Bank Fee
    $ 800.00 – Audi Care

    Less:

    $ 1,500.00 Downpayment (including 1st month pmt of $ 669.99 and $ 803.01 Cap Cost Red.)

    $ 45,635.40 Adjusted Cap Cost

    Money Factor - .00254
    Residual - 55%
    Mileage Limit: 12,000/year
    42 Month lease @ 669.99

    What do you think?
  • enzombenzomb Posts: 5
    Hi Carman,
    Would you know the current 36-month money factor and residual value for the 2012 A4 Premium FWD sedan? I don't think I'll need more than 10K or 12K miles/ year.
    Thanks!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi bartleby2. Audi Financial Services' July buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 42-month lease of a 2012 allroad Premium Plus with 10,000 miles per year are .00150 and 55%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of an allroad Prestige are .00150 and 52%.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi geo22201. I don't have a problem with this car's selling price but Wow the money factor that you were quoted is really high. If your credit is in good shape, you should be able to get a factor that's practically half that...OK, not half .00136 but pretty darn close. Make sure to get that straightened out and you should be in good shape.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi enzomb. Audi Financial Services' July buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 A4 Sedan Premium FWD with 12,000 mies per year are .00014 and 51%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The residual value for a lease with only 10,000 miles per year would be 1% higher.

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  • Hi Carman,

    Do you have the July MF/residual on a 2013 A4 Quattro premium plus for 36 month lease with 12k and 15k miles?

    Thanks!
  • geo22201geo22201 Posts: 2
    How do you get this straightened out with the deal being done already? Through Audi? Should I get another lease company to buy out the lease?
  • traidedtraided Posts: 1
    edited July 2012
    I was offered this lease package for a 2013 audi a4 cvt 2.0 premium non-nav
    I have attached a picture of the print out they gave me with the details. I don't have the
    best credit 615. Can someone look at the numbers and tell me if it's a good or decent offer.
    Thanks
    Here is a link
    link title
  • carlady13carlady13 Posts: 1
    What is the current Money Factor & Residual % for 2012 328i Sedan, 36mo's, 10k miles?
    Also any dealer money or incentives? for July August or September? How about 2013 model?
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