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147I just ran the numbers on my spreadsheet and got $451.11 as the pre-tax lease payment, so I think the leasing math is correct, but I do come up $451 short when I add up the components of the $4,015. I take it from your post that you have to pay the sales tax up front in your state (TX?) rather than add it to the payment every month. So if tax is $1,128, fees are $511, the down payment(cap cost reduction) looks to be $1,925,

(assumingthe Acquisition fee is added to the net cap cost), then that leaves $451 unaccounted for.(Your monthly depreciation would be $340.28, and your interest would be $110.83, by the way.)

I'd get a more complete breakdown from the dealer, and repost.

8Thanks again, and I'll be posting the nuts and bolts of the deal in the buying exerience forum, and highly recommemding this dealer to anyone who asks.

3Is there something I'm missing using this method? The difference between a stripped down A4 and a pretty embellished one isn't that much: about $500 per year or less. Thanks.

147Interesting premise. Your method does simplify things, but I think many of us like to crunch the numbers for fun as much as anything else....just for the satisfaction of knowing what the numbers should be, and having a sense of where the "deal" falls compared to where it could fall if you got all the stars lined up in your favor.

Also, I think your range is a bit high for the A4 and its competitors. A pre-tax lease payment of $500 (with $0 down) is $.40 per mile at 15,000 per year, and those payment levels are possible if you do some work.

Just my thoughts.

9I asked a couple dealers about the .00062 MF and many of them did not know of it or said it did not apply. Where does your MF info come from, and how can I convince them to look into these rates. The best I can do is a MF of .0019, which is substantially higher than the .00062. It makes a HUGE different in money payments!

Thank you!

1I am trying to lease a '07 A4 S-line... 3 yr., 15M miles per..... 57% residual and .0021 lease rate. Still negotiating ...$34,100/ current quoted lease payment of $538. trying to get it to $500

1133I have got a deal from a local dealer for a 2007 A4 2.0T CVT AUTOMATIC

PREMIUM / LEATHER / SUNROOF / 17" ALLOY WHEELS / CD CHANGER / DUAL CLIMATE CONTROL /

MSRP 32,060

$2800 DOWN

$275 PER MONTH

24 MONTHS

15,000 MILES PER YEAR

My guess is $275 + Tax? Anyway is this a good deal?

1I need some input on a lease deal I'm working with University Park Audi in Dallas, Texas. The numbers seem way too high, but I gather it's from the strange lease laws in Texas and the fact Audi is forced to use balloon payments to attempt to circumvent it.

Anyway, listed below are the numbers. If you could take a look and see why it's so high, that would be great.

2007 Audi A4 2.0

Black, beige interior, premium package

MSRP: 32,060

Selling Price: 31,000

APR: 5.85 % (they said they don't use money factors, but this may be due to the lease laws)

Residual: 57% (seems in line with what I've seen)

Miles: 15K

Term: 36 Months

They started with a prce per month of $557. I have them down to $528, but it just seems way too high. I thought with a lease I could get it into the $400 range. Even using their APR of 5.85 as a MF of .00234, I see my payment should be $502. It's still much higher than I'm willing to pay.

I thought I read where the MF on 07 Audi A4 was .00170, which would be an APR of 4.08. Given those numbers, I should be at $464/mo.

Any advice?

6I need some serious advice here. I am a recently divorced woman, who for the first time in her life is looking at leasing a new2007 audi. I'm terrified! The dealer told me the cost of the vehicle is 30,340 plus 720(not sure what the 720 is). If I put 2400 down plus the 1st tax price, my monthly car payments would be 340.00/month. This is on a 36 month lease for 10,000 miles. In your opinion is this a good deal. Any input you may have would be greatly appreciated. No trade in is involved. Thank you

4I'd greatly appreciate if you can help me out. I'm about to lease an '07 A4 T Quattro Automatic w/heated seats, convenience package, premium package, birch wood trim, bluetooth phone prep.

MSRP 36,510 (they said the package price just came down $900 on Friday)

Cap cost: 34,362 (I get a 6% supplier discount)

24 month lease

Residual value: 72% (Lease end value 25,687.20)

Money factor: .00175

Monthly payment: 494.54 w/$1262,14 due at close (includes 575 Acquisition fee & 160 doc fee)

My questions are:

1) Is this a 'good deal'?

2) Now that the salesman knows that I get a 6% supplier discount, is there any way to negotiate anything more off MSRP?

3) Where can I get good information about the invoice on the car?

I'm going to complete this deal within 1-2 days and would greatly appreciate your help.

Catherine

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38,515When you arrive at an attractive selling price, have the dealer that you are working with use Audi Financial Services' buy rate lease money factor to calculate your car's monthly payment. AFS' current buy rate for a 24 month lease of this model is .00195.

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631MSRP - 36260 (sunroof, paint, premium, destination)

Invoice - 33676 (according to edmunds)

Sell Price - 34176

residual - 53%

money factor - .00062

36 month & 15,000 per year

$0 cap cost reduction for a payment of $450

good deal ?

I thought so, so I took it.

then rolled all the other cost, tax, title, etc

on top of the payment at .00062 MF

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38,515I would be happy to give you my opinion of the deal that you were quoted. It would be a big help though if you would provide me with this car's full MSRP first. This number will show me how much of a discount you are being given on the car that you are interested in and it will enable me to use Audi's actual lease program to estimate what your car's monthly payment should be. Let me know and I'll tell you what I think.

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39I did end up leasing one for a few hundred over invoice on 9/4/06. I did a two year lease on a loaded 07 S-Line A4 w/ MSRP 40,960. The money factor was .00185, which I believe was Audi's buy rate + .00015 for the waiver of security deposit. (I'm new to Audi; apparently return AFS customers get this waived automatically)

No cap cost reduction and 70% residual for 2 years, 15k/year. It would have been 2% more for a non-SLIne.

I did get more info on the .00062 MF on the 06's. Apparently it was Audi's way of enticing people to continue leasing the 06's b/c the residuals had gone down once the 07's came out. The 07's had higher MF but far better residuals, so when the math was done, the 06 vs 07 was only $10/mo difference. My local dealer had the 07, and the exact car I wanted, so that's what I ended up getting!

16I just looked up the MSRP on Edmunds and it is the 30,340 in my area. The TMV price is 29,794. This doesn't sound like such a good dealer. For the monthly payment he quoted I am to put down the 1st tax plus 2400.00. Could you please calculate how much I should be paying monthly, and I was also wondering if they no longer offer free maintanance during the leasing period, is leasing an audi such a good deal? Also looking at BMW's. Left you another post on that subject. Thanks so much for your help!

1What state are you in? Yesterday I was quoted (Miami) an A4 S-line, with bluetooth, convenience, premium and Titanium packages for $35,500 and a 24 mo. lease 15K for $597 mo. with 7% taxes. I thought it was excessive for a $35,500 car.

What is your lease payment?

Thaks,

2MSRP as configured: $57,210 (including $1700 Gas Guzzler Tax)

Invoice: $53,452 (also including GG)

Lease terms: 36/12k

Residual: 59%

Money Factor: .00312

Local Sales Tax Rate: 8-5/8%

Security Deposit $749 (NY State Max, i'm told)

NYS Upfront Acquisition Fee: $575

NYS Tire Waste Fee: $12.50

Dealer 1 offers invoice + $1000 + Port Prep Fee $195 + District Ad Fee $ 300 = Selling Price of $54,947.

Dealer 2 offers MSRP - $1500 = Selling Price of $ 56,410.

Dealer 1 is $1463 cheaper.

Both dealers calculated monthly payments that i cannot replicate. Both dealers suggest paying the $1700 Gas Guzzler up front and, i suppose, did a cap cost reduction to offset the tax.

Dealer 1 says it'll be $ 781.11/mo w/ $5,548.21 at signing. Dealer not willing to hold that rate, only a "ball park" with actual rate determined upon delivery of vehicle(60 - 90 days).

Dealer 2 says it'll be $872.67/mo w/ $6,280 at signing and will guarantee that figure against potential rate increases at time of delivery. If, however, rates have dropped by then - the lower rate will be used to re-calculate the lease.

My concern is that while the cheaper deal seems attractive, i'm afraid the quoted monthly figure may be low-balled. No mention was made of security deposit for instance.

Dealer 2, while seemingly more expensive, seems to be more accurate and i like the guarantee offer. Also hinted that they might drop to MSAP - $2000 if i walk in...

it's an expensive proposition either way and i'm not sure which way to go. Any thoughts?

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