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Audi A6 Lease Questions

CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
Hi everyone. Please use the following discussion to post any questions that you have about leasing an Audi A6. Thanks.

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  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    Why divide this category even more? I think a prices paid and buying experience should be enough, and there's already a lot of lease talk on there.
  • Hello rjlaero. Management felt as though it was difficult for community members to find posts on specific models or subjects in the current huge (over 23,700 posts and counting) "Lease Questions Ask Here" discussion over on the Smart Shoppers message board. We are in the process of transitioning to model-specific discussions on leasing to help everyone find answers to their questions as quickly and easily as possible.

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  • Car_man,

    Do you know when new lease rates for the '06 A6 come out? Right now my dealer is quoting me 56% residual (36 months/15k) and a money factor of .0018.

    Even though the dealer is giving me the base rate, my payment would still be $800/month including tax. Does this seem like a good deal? This is based on MSRP of $53,940 and a sell price of $51,925. I probably could have done better on the sell price, I don't know. Do you know if any better rates will be coming out soon? Thanks!
  • That's very expensive. Get the 05' if you can. There is a lease deal on a Premium only car with $3,000 total at start for $499/month with 12K year (05' model only).
  • I am in the market for a new SUV/Wagon.

    I am hoping to get the sept residuals and money factors of 2005 Allroads and A6 Wagons 3 years 15K a year


    Thanks KA
  • Hello mike3000. Audi's September lease program was introduced on the 7th. Its current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month, 15,000 miles per year lease of a 2006 A6 3.2 sedan should be .00130 and 55%, respectively. I suspect that you may be able to negotiate a lower selling price if you shop around a little bit. You may want to stop by the following discussion to see how much other community members have paid for similar cars lately: "Audi A6: Prices Paid & Buying Experience".

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  • Hi someguy1. Audi is no longer providing lease support on 2005 models. As a result, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month, 15,000 miles per year lease of a 2005 allroad are currently .00295 and 46%, which are not very good. The good news is that Audi is providing $2,000 dealer cash on this model. This will enable you to negotiate an attractive selling price for this wagon. If you were to lease a 2006 Audi A6 3.2 Avant through Audi Financial Services right now for 36 months with 15,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00155 and 54%, respectively.

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  • Couldn't you provide more info on this deal?
  • Has anyone recently leased a 2006 A6, 4.2? I was just quoted 36mo/15K lease with residual of 52% and MF of .00195. Msrp for the car was 61840K. They were only offering 2% off, but hasn't really pushed as yet. The invoice on my particular car is $56,968 (Tech pkg, s-line, cold weather pkg, heated str, ). Trying to get a feel for best recent lease deal....

    Undecided in DC
  • Hi chaz2. I haven't leased this car recently, but I can tell you what its current lease program is like. If you were to lease a 2006 Audi A6 4.2 through Audi Financial Services right now for 36 months with 15,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00155 and 52%, respectively, with the payment of a security deposit and AFS' $575 acquisition fee. It appears to me as though the dealer that you are working with is marking-up AFS' base money factor for this car in an attempt to add additional back-end profit to your deal. Since you know what this car's buy rate money factor is, insist that your dealer use it to calculate your vehicle's payment. For feedback on the selling price that you were quoted, make sure to stop by the following discussion: "Audi A6: Prices Paid & Buying Experience". Good luck in your negotiations and if you think of any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

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  • Just started looking in south florida for a 2006 A6 with sunroof for 36mos/12K.
    my local dealer quoted $720/month with ~$2000 acquisition (crazy)

    spoke with another dealer further north:
    $4000 down ($2000 acquisition + $2000 cap cost reduct)
    $599.02 with taxes, title, license included.

    will post more if I can get better prices
    -Chris
  • jinvajinva Posts: 41
    These numbers seemed to be based on no discounting from the MSRP, assuming the car has only the sunroof package.

    That said, I would expect no real deals to be made until the 06's have been sitting on the lots for awhile. Hopefully, after Thanksgiving things will loosen up.
  • maxbosmaxbos Posts: 6
    Hello Everyone,

    Is this really an Ok deal?

    '06 A6 Avant 3.1L with Premium package
    36 months, 12K per year
    no cap cost reduction
    $660/months with MA sales tax (about $635 without tax)
    Don't know what the exact residual value and money factor numbers are :(

    Thanks,
    maxbos
  • Hi Chris. Are you sire that you are being quoted $2,000 lease acquisition fees?!?! That's nuts. Audi Financial Services' base lease acquisition fee is only $575. Perhaps some of the $2,000 that you were quoted was a capitalized cost reduction. If not, these dealers are pretty bad trying to make up the acquisition fee that much.

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  • Greetings maxbos. Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month, 12,000 miles per year lease of a 2006 A6 3.2 Avant are be .00155 and 56%, respectively with the payment of AFS' security deposit and acquisition fee requirements. Make sure that this is the money factor that is being used to calculate your car's lease payment. I would be happy to give you my opinion on this deal and even calculate an approximate lease payment on this wagon for you using AFS' actual lease program, but in order for me to do so I need you to provide me with this car's full MSRP and selling price. These are important numbers for you as a consumer to know for two reasons. First, the selling prices of leased vehicles can be negotiated, just as if you were paying cash for them. Without knowing this car's selling price in relation to its MSRP you don't know how much of a discount you are getting on it. The second reason is that one needs the selling price and MSRP, including the destination charge, of a vehicle to calculate its lease payment.

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  • Can anyone provide the residual and money factor based on the current lease offer of: 06 A6 3.2 24 month lease, 10,000 miles per year, and what is the MF and Resid for 15,000 miles per year?

    Down payment $2000
    Refundable security deposit $525
    Acquisition fee $575
    First month's payment $519

    Rate based on $46,140.00 MSRP of 2006 Audi A6 sedan with quattro, 6-speed Automatic transmission with Tiptronic including sunroof package, and destination charge. Purchase option at lease end for $32,298.00

    24-month closed-end leases offered to qualified customers by Audi Financial Services through participating dealers. Must take delivery by November 30, 2005. Required dealer contribution could affect final negotiated transaction. Lessee responsible for insurance and may have some financial liability at lease end. Lessee responsible for $0.25/mile over 10,000 miles per year and a disposition fee of $350 due at lease end. Rate based on $46,140.00 MSRP of 2006 Audi A6 sedan with quattro, 6-speed Automatic transmission with Tiptronic including sunroof package, and destination charge. Purchase option at lease end for $32,298.00. See dealer for details.
  • maxbosmaxbos Posts: 6
    Thanks for your help, Car_man.

    Here is the info I got from the dealer:
    MSRP: 50,490
    Purchase price: 47,273 (that includes 1,500 Audi loyalty discount)
    Money factor: 0.00169
    Residual value: 56%
    cap cost reduction - ~1,000 (they tried hard to make me believe
    that the money down was only for the acquisition fee, security deposit, etc.)
    MA state sales tax: 5%

    Invoice with options: 46,639 (from Edmunds)

    I can see myself that the deal is not spectacular. However, I think I am Ok
    with the price given that Avent is all new for 2006, it's not a very common car, and they had to order a car for me.
    I wonder why they are quoting me a higher money factor (0.00169 instead
    of 0.00155) for the 12K/36 mo lease with excellent credit history.
    I gave a $500 deposit and signed an intent to purchase, but not the actual lease
    documents. The lower money factor will save only $10 monthly for me, but I still would like to fight it. How can I prove to the dealer that this is the current promotional money factor from AFS? I called AFS, and they told me to go and talk to a local dealer.

    Thanks,
    maxbos
  • I'm turning in my 2003 A6 and will be about 12K over in miles. I'm considering leasing another Audi. Any suggestions on how to eliminate/mitigate the additional fee without just having the dealer tack on the fee to the new lease so that all I end up doing is financing this fee. Thanks.
  • Greetings pizzabite. Here is the information that you are looking for. If you were to lease a 2006 Audi A6 3.2 Sedan through Audi Financial Services right now for 24 months with 15,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00130 and 67%, respectively. Its money factor for an otherwise identical lease with only 12,000 miles per year would be the same, but its residual value would be 2% higher. The residual for a lease with only 10,000 miles per year would be 3% higher.

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  • You're welcome maxbos. I don't think that the selling price that you were quoted for this vehicle is that unreasonable for an '06 Avant right now, especially if you are ordering your vehicle rather than buying one off of a dealer's lot. Since your credit is in good shape, there is really only two possible explanations as to why the money factor that you were quoted for your wagon are higher than Audi Financial Services' current buy rate for it. Either you are having your vehicle's security deposit or acquisition fee waived or your dealer is marking up AFS' base factor to add additional back-end profit to your deal. You don't have to prove what AFS' actual buy rate money factor is to the dealer that you are working with because they know exactly what it is and why the one that they are quoting you is higher. If you insist that they use the lowest possible money factor you may be able to get them to do so, but you are not in the strongest bargaining position given the fact that you have already given them a $500 deposit.

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  • Hi fullnate. I am sorry to say that Audi Financial Services probably will not waive the excess mileage penalty for your current leased vheicle just because you plan on leasing another one through it. The only way to avoid having to pay an excess mileage penalty on your current lease is to purchase your vehicle at lease-end and continue to drive it, trade it in on a new vehicle, or sell it on your own. Unfortunately, it often turns out that the purchase prices of leased vehicles is higher than their value on the open market. As a result, you probably will not save any money by purchasing your leased vehicle and trading it in and should just pay your excess mileage penalty and start fresh with your new lease, getting a higher mileage allowance this time.

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  • Hi there Car_man. It seems you can help me with my problem. I've never leased a car before and every time I talk to dealers it seems like they are trying to rip me off. I need to know a fair price for a lease payment so I could go to the dealership and know what i am talking about. Can you please help out? I am looking to get an 2006 Audi A6 3.2 Quattro with a Premium and Coldweather in White Ext and Black interior. Any idea how much would that cost a month? and if you know of any special deals right now could you recommend some? Maybe you know a good dealer in NY/NJ area? Thanks alot
  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    Take a look @ Audi's website right now and help yourself out.

    They have a $519/month lease deal for 24 months on a $46,140 A6 Quattro. The premium and cold weather will bring you to about $49,000 or so. So figure an extra 40-45 month to get those options. About $560 - $570 is where you'll be on the car you want for 24 months with about $3700 plus any dealer fees due at signing.
  • thanks alot for the response. I did check it out, too bad the write "tax excluded" with small letters. I called the dealer and asked about this deal + tax he said that's like 5500 down total....strange. He said 565 with premium. I multiplied the payments by 24 then took 6% new jersey tax and it comes out to less than a grand, therefore i don't know how he came up wtih 5500, any ideas?
  • how to calculate the fair lease price given certain variables. ie. Money factor/Residual?

    Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,850
    Try this article from Edmunds.com:

    Calculate Your Own Lease Payment

    regards,
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  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    Most dealers will have a documnetation fees with tag and titling, so for most people that's an extra $400-500. The Website says $3700 or so due at signing plus any dealer fees. So I'd ask for a beakdown of that $5500.

    Also, check on the options of the car. It might have more stuff on it than the ad car. 18 inch wheels are an extra $1000, satellite radio is $550. That could make the difference.
  • jinvajinva Posts: 41
    First of all, the Audi $519/mo lease deal is a get-you-in-the-door special. I'm afraid you can't use it as a base from which to figure a deal on cars with more options.

    My take on the $5500 down is that it's mostly cap cost reduction, because they are not giving you much, if any, deal on the selling price of the car. They are likely to be using a higher money factor too. I'm shooting from the hip here, but I'd bet your $565/mo is really $765/mo when you figure around $200/mo paid in advance in the cap cost reduction.
  • Greetings papazhenyaaa. Since you are new to the world of leasing, you definitely should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.

    I would be happy to give you an idea of what sort of lease payment to expect on this car. However, in order for me to do so it would be a big help if you were able to provide me with its full MSRP (including the destination charge) and an approximate selling price. Always remember that the selling prices of leased vehicles can be negotiated, just as if you were paying cash or financing. You should be able to get an idea of how much you should pay for this car right now by looking at the prices paid by other community members in the following discussion: "Audi A6: Prices Paid & Buying Experience". Once you know the prices of the car that you are interested in, stop back and let me know how long you want to lease it for and how many miles per year you need to be allowed to drive it (15,000, 12,000, or 10,000) and I will estimate what its lease payment should be for you using Audi's actual lease program.

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  • Are the Money Factors readily available, here or elsewhere, for 36, 39 month (or any other sweet spot) leases for the '06 Audi A6?
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