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BMW 5-Series Lease Questions



  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,569
    I wouldn't buy without an extended warranty.

    That said, I wouldn't buy....I'd go for the 2009 lease.
  • paotronpaotron Posts: 7
    What offers have you got from the dealers?
    Try to get at least 2 or 3 offers first.
    You sould negociate from MSRP of $50,925 down to at least $47,000 or lower first base on TMV.
    The lease money factor rate which determine your monthly payment will depend on your credit score.
    Yes, NORMALLY you can get a better deal at the end of the month.
  • koy1koy1 Posts: 3
    Model: 528I - Executive demo (10K miles)
    Color: Bronze
    Year: 2008
    Options included: Premium Package, Sports Package, power rear sunshade, fold down seats, heated front seats, park distance, xenon headlights.

    MSRP (new): $53,225
    Price: $43,203
    Money factor: .00195
    Taxes, bank fees etc: $2,838
    Cash Down: zero
    Residual: $35,092 (70%)

    Monthly Payment $490

    This is my first time leasing. Is this a good deal?

  • sergeymsergeym Posts: 262
    Not really. Base MF is .0018 and I cannot imagine a BMW executive driving 528. It is just a demo with 10K Miles rougly equal 20-25K miles of normal driving.
  • koy1koy1 Posts: 3
    Thanks for the response. Can you please elabarote why this is not a good deal?. If I put a security deposit down I can get the .0018MF. The paymnet of $490 alos includes taxes. Thanks
  • sergeymsergeym Posts: 262
    What taxes does it include?
    Taxes, bank fees etc: $2,838?

    W/out taxes for the numbers you posted the monthly payment should've been $405.

    I would suggest you checking a brand new car with the same options to see how much you saving on getting this demo.
  • That is part of the issue. We bought the extended service package at 50,000 because it came up at only 23 months on a 36 month lease. Good to 100,000 miles so I still have 30,000 left on the warranty. Also had to replace all four tires ovedr the last six months so they are all good. Have the price down to $23,000 now and may be able to get it to $21k which is Kelley Blue Book for private sale. Do you mean the extended major systems warranty? I did not buy that because I thought we were going to turn it in at 36 months. Thanks for your thoughts.
  • daxxiedaxxie Posts: 1
    I would definitely buy at $21 and probably at $23, too. First, you have unrecoupable money in the warranty and tires if you return the car. Second, notwithstanding "market" values, you know the car and sounds like your 70K weren't hard miles.. I am in similar situation with a 06 530xi but only 25K miles. Local BMW dealer (not the one who wrote the lease) doesn't seem interested in doing anything on price -- lease buyout is $33K and he wants another 2500 to "pre-certify." Curious as to how/why you are able to negotiate price here...b/c dealer is required to purchase the car if you don't?
  • drgumsdrgums Posts: 51
    dear car man:

    What do think about this deal:

    528xi manual 2008 prem, cold, xenon, ipod...selling price 46K+

    36 months...18k mile per year...$699 w/ nj taxes...Total of $2000 at inception

    Thoughts ?

  • Dear Car man,
    I was offered for $400 below invoice with 0.9% finiancing for a 08 535i with Premium package, Logic 7, sport pakcage, nav options in CA.
    Please tell me if it is a good deal.
    Is there any incentives for the dealer from the mfg?

    Thanks in advance!
  • I was with you all the way until the last sentence. I am not aware the dealer has to buy the car BMW. Right now it is titled to BMW Financial. All my dealings re buying the car have been with them or their sub-contractor Financial Services Remarketing, Inc. I have had no conversations with the dealer about this because I learned if they are in the middle then they buy the car from BMW and sell it to me adding their costs and commissions. Since they have zero value added (not going to prep the car or anything) as I will never relinquish possession, I saw no reason to include them. I have had to negotiate with BMW Financial, but not in any way different than dealing with the dealer. I do not recall where you are, but $33 is too much in this down used car market. Put your car into KelleyBlueBook (kbb,com) and check the value. The Edmonds values have been too high around here as near as I can tell. And, NO WAY, you pay the dealer to pre-certifiy. Heck, that is supposed to be what they are offering you as an incentive to buy the car you are already driving or some guy off the street. So here's why BMW is going to drop the price. They know the market for used 6 cylinder cars burning premium fuel has dried up. If they take it back it is going to the auction house and they will never see anything like $33k with our without the pre-certify. I am taking the latest deal at $22 for mine, which has Premium Pkg, Cold Weather Pkg, Nav, Auto trans, and Satellite. Call BMW Financial at 800-578-5000 and start at $25K since the value of my extra miles was $2960. Good luck!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,518
    Hi drgums. What is this car's MSRP or its dealer invoice price (either one will do)? The best way to evaluate deals is to look at how much over dealer invoice you are getting your car for. Ideally, you should get the dealer to tell you want money factor they are using to calculate your monthly payment as well.

    Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,518
    Hi bimmerdude. While $400 under dealer invoice looks like an absolute steal at first gmance, keep in mind that BMW is currently providing a free Premium package on most 5-Series models. This amounts to a $2,000 dealer credit. If this option is listed on your car's invoice, then $400 under invoice is really more like $1,600 over invoice. This may not be a bad deal for this car right now, but it definitely is not the steal that it initially appears to be. Have you stopped by the "BMW 5-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience" discussion yet? If not, definitely do so. You should be able to get some outstanding feedback on how much 5-Series are selling for right now over there.

    Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum
  • 53turk53turk Posts: 8
    I just got a deal for a 535i, the msrp was 61320, the selling price is 55255, which is $1600 below invoice. It is a good time to lease or buy cars.
  • 535i white, 36 mo/12K lease, msrp ~56900, selling price 51250, if you count MAACO and Training costs on the invoice, it's about $1000 under invoice. i would have pushed more, but the car was from a different dealer. i think i could have gotten more off for a car on their lot. maxed on the multiple security deposit (MSD), and no cap cost reduction. monthly pmt ~640 including tax. was pretty happy with the deal until i got home looked carefully at the lease. one line stuck out - Acquisition Cost $825. At first i thought that it was the same as destination charge (since the amounts were the same) and was pissed that it wasnt included in the cap cost. but i read up on it here and found out that it isnt the same thing, it just could have been lower ($625). so i'm cool with it now.
  • I am considering leasing a 2009 550i. When will the new pricing be available and what should I expect as a residual and money factor. The dealer I am dealing with has been very vague. What would be a reasonable amount of discount I should expect off of the MSRP?
    How does a security deposit impact the monthly lease?
  • I am looking for a 535xi manual....will have to order a 2009...I could not locate any 2008's.....any ideas of what the finances will be for 2009?

    I still have owner loyalty, excellent credit and 20 +years of leasing with BMW.

    I still have 2 more payments on my 2005 x5 lease...there was no pull ahead program for me to take advantage of the 2008 late summer deals

    Any suggestions or thoughts?

    Anybody out there know of a low mileage manual 535xi 2008 or should I just order a 2009?
  • I got a quote on a 2008 528xi Exec demo car with 11K miles on it. Sticker was 57,320 and they're offering me a 24 month lease 18K/yr mileage for $720 -- bank fees and tax up front. Residual is about 35K, I don't have the money factor handy, but it was about 1.6% (should be in line with new car lease deal ending 9/2). Does this sound like a good deal?

    I can get it for 49K on a purchase with new financing (includes CPO warranty). Is that a better choice? I need to finalize by tomorrow. Any assistace would be great.
  • Hi podguy. I don't have an exact date, but I have heard that the 2009 BMWs will start to arrive at dealers towards the end of the month. You may be able to get a more definitive arrival date by visiting the "BMW 5-Series Sedans" discussion. BMW has not published a lease program for the '09 5-Series yet, but when it does I suspect it to initially be much worse than its current lease program on the '08 model.

    BMW Financial Services charges a security deposit that is equivalent to cars' monthly payments rounded up to the nearest $50 increment. It will waive the deposit for free for returning lessees and in exchange for a .00015 money factor increase for everyone else.

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  • I am planning to lease a 528i with the following options in Texas:

    528i Black on Black
    ZPP Premium Package
    ZCW Cold Weather Package
    522 Xenon Lights
    6FL Ipod and USB Adapter

    MSRP: $49775.00

    Here is the offer from dealer:

    Sale Price: $44775.00 ($5000.00 less of MSRP)
    Sale Price + Tax : 47574.00 (Drive Out)

    Initial Payment+Security Deposity+ttl+acquisition Fees: $2250.00
    Initial Payment: $686.00
    Security Deposit: $700.00
    Rest: ttl+acquisition fees

    Lease Payment: $686.00 per month for 36 month with 15K miles/year.

    Is this a good deal on lease?
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