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2013 and earlier BMW 7-Series Lease Questions

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  • I am trying to decide whether to do a lease buy out on a 2007 750li, or lease a 2009. It is in excellent and almost pristeen condition and has 27,000 miles on it. the residual is $52,014. No repairs have been needed, just regular oil changes. This car has options that I like, and significantly, the back seat seems to have more room than the 2009.

    Without seeing the car one dealer said BMW would want to bring the car up to BMW specs to certify it which may require tries, brakes, etc. and wiith the additional 2yrs or 50K miles on my current warranty and offered to sell it to me for the residual with financing at .9% for 36 months, $1585. month with zero down.

    In looking at the lease agreement on this car, I see there was no "capitalized cost reduction" and that the "gross capitalized cost" was 86,112. The payments have been $1362./month for 36 months. Is the residual written in stone, or can I negotiate a better price? What would be reasonable given the amount that has already paid, or is that not a consideration?

    I am new to this experience and could use some advice. The only reason I would want to lease a 2009, is if its much more prudent financially in the long run.
    Thanks!
  • gryangryan Posts: 35
    I just leased the 2009 Li and I love it.

    BMW gave $6000 in rebate to be uused as cap reduction.

    The dealers are selling them at cost.

    I used Multiple securites to get money factor down but it is already low at .00090, this is equal to 2.25%
    Unless you plan on keeping the 2007 for more than a few more years I would say lease a new one. I would think payment should be in the $1100-$1200 range for 3 year lease
  • I am looking at leasing a 2009 750Li for 36 months/12,000 miles per year.
    The MSRP of the car is 99,070. With incentives of 6000 plus dealer incentive of 3500, the quoted monthly lease payment including tax would be approximately $1400 with 2200 down which includes dealer and tag fees, plus first month's payment. According to Edmund's calculations, invoice would be $91,155 for this vehicle which includes a sports package. Local dealers have several 2009s remaining in this seemingly not popular color combination. We currently lease a 750Li. How do we determine if it is feasible to negotiate a better monthly lease payment? Thanks.
  • gryangryan Posts: 35
    The dealer should be selling the car at around $7000 off not $3500. The $6000 is from BMW and does not hurt the dealer. According to you/Edmunds, the Dealer paid 91,155 and wants to sell at 95,500. He should be selling at invoice just to move it off the lot so he can sell more 2010's. Ask him what he is using for cap cost? and what is the money factor. What state do you live in??
  • Many thanks for your input. The money factor is .0013, but I don't know what he is using for cap cost. --We live in the state of Florida.
  • gryangryan Posts: 35
    I believe it should be lower than .0013, i think maybe .00090, Ask him what is cap cost. My email is gar@jaradara.com. if you email me there i will send you a spreadsheet that i used last month. I asked about state because i am in Nj and it may be a little different here
  • poorprofpoorprof Posts: 109
    I normally wouldnt be able to drive a 750, but I am thinking maybe I can get a great deal on one. I wondering if I get a 750 for 5k below invoice PLUS the 7500 BMW is giving in marketing support.

    Also, does anybody know the money factor and residual value for Jan for the 09s?
  • zoranzoran Posts: 68
    is that trunk money on 09
  • poorprofpoorprof Posts: 109
    I dont know what trunk money is. Edemunds.com calls it Marketing support
  • linkyolinkyo Posts: 1
    2010 750 LI
    MSRP: 8,9550
    Residual 57%
    Miles: 10,000 annual
    CAP cost 84,550
    Cash Down 5k
    Total cap reduction 1,405
    MF 0.00170
    Term 36
    Monthly payment b/f tax 1,150
  • poorprofpoorprof Posts: 109
    2009 750i
    MSRP 94700
    4k drive off
    1179 a month plus tax

    Any thoughts? This includes a 6k rebate.
  • got a 2010 750i last week from shelly

    msrp: 98400
    drive off: 3300
    3yr/15k
    1508 w/tax of 9.75%

    imo, you should be able to get alittle bit better deal cause it is a 09, assume your deal is base on 15k a year and it is only 200 difference
  • just got a 2010 750Li outside philly last friday

    msrp: 97030
    drive off: 2235
    3yr/10k
    1318 tax in
    hope this help
  • Hi Carman ... I'm thinking about a '10 BMW 750i lease. It appears that they have the best MF and Residual vs Mercedes, Audi, Jag and espcially Porsche. In working with the local dealer, they knocked off $5000 off the car without even negotiating. Here's what's on the table now :

    MSRP $99680
    Selling Price $94680
    MF .00170
    Residual 53%
    3 yr for 15k per yer : $1538 (includes CA 8.775% tax

    Its hard to find what the invoice is on this car as the MSRP base price for the car doesn't match in Edmunds, KBB or NADA vs what is on the sticker. Sticker states that the car before options is $80455 (not incl gas guz and dest charge). Edmunds states that it is $82000). So I'm guessing that the first offer is still around 3K over invoice.

    Any thoughts anyone on how much lower I can get them being in So. Calif???

    Thanks,
    Tim
  • gryangryan Posts: 35
    Sounds like a pretty good price, i believe invoice on that car to be around $92,000 so you may be able to get a little bit more off, I would offer $1500 even, per month, but lets see what Carman says
  • Hey all,
    getting a new 2010 750li tomorrow. originally, it was $113,000 but thanks to some connections, got it down to $104,000 :). awesome car!! cant wait to get it.
  • Can I get lease prices on the 2011 750li yet? I know they aren't taking orders until March and the vehicle doesn't come out til May, but I like to plan ahead. I live in the Atlanta area. :shades:
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hello Tim. The money factor and residual value that you were quoted for this car are right on the money. $3,000 over invoice isn't terrible on a car that's this expensive, but if I was in the market for one I personally would want something more along the lines of $1,000 over.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi danamite_64. It's impossible to estimate what this car's payments will be like without knowing what its MSRP and selling price are, but I can tell you what BMW's new lease program on it is like.

    BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 750Li with 15,000 miles per year are .00250 and 55%, respectively.

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  • bonzmdbonzmd Posts: 5
    hi, i,m in the process of trying to negotiate a lease on a 2011 750 i with xdrive, Msport with 20 inch upgrade, lux seating, and cold weather packages.
    MSRP 96475, but got dealer down to working price of 91275.
    i'm looking for a 3 year lease 15K
    offer on the table is$1479/mo with $5500 drive of cost. i live in RI and sales tax is 7%.
    is this a decent deal or can i do better?
  • Dude, on how many forums are you going to post with this deal? :) Since nobody has official lease numbers on the 2011, I doubt that Terry can advise you on whether or not this is a good deal.
  • bonzmdbonzmd Posts: 5
    dude, you're completely wrong. the numbers are out and the car can be ordered. i'm in the process of negotiating prices at this moment. you should re-check your info source.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi bonzmd. I don't know who Terry is, but I'd be happy to help you out. The car that you're interested in probably has a spread of over $7,000 between its full MSRP and its dealer invoice price. The $5,200 dealer discount that you were quoted sounds pretty decent to me on an ordered vehicle at the very beginning of the model year.

    Just make sure that the dealer uses BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor of .00250 to calculate your payment and you're in business.

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  • bonzmdbonzmd Posts: 5
    thanx car man,
    they told me if i order the car and the money factor drops by the time the car gets to me(6-8 wks), they would re-adjust my payments. is that true? and how can i find out what the real money factor is for a given month to make sure the dealer is telling the truth?
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    No problem bonzmd. Customers who order BMWs can lock in the program that is available on the vehicle that they want at the time they place the order. Doing so gives them the option of using that program or the one that is available when the vehicle is delivered, whichever is better.

    Please feel free to check back with me right before your car is scheduled to arrive and I will be happy to give you an idea of what its lease program is like then.

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  • bonzmdbonzmd Posts: 5
    thanks for the help. the car is due in mid/late May. i will definitely check back with you.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    You're very welcome, bonzmd. Talk to you then.

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  • blckislandguyblckislandguy Posts: 1,150
    The last time I looked it snowed in Rhode Island and there were pot holes. Big pot holes.

    I wouldn't get 20" M type wheels because you can't get snow tires for them and Xi drive with summer tires will put you into Narragansett Bay the first time it snows or gets icy and you try to stop.
  • bdemarbdemar Posts: 16
    All I currently have the following deal on the table for a 2010 750i (all wheel drive) space gray, black leather, with comfort package, lux seating, premium sound and the optional 19inch style 235 wheels. I'm doing a 3year 15k lease.

    MSRP - 93,880

    + 329 appearance program (is this worth it?)

    - 5,880 discount
    ---------------------
    88,329

    - 55,300 Trade in Value
    ---------------------------
    33,029
    + 50,472 ( Lein payoff on my trade in)
    + 6,195.59 Sales tax
    + 25 Tag fee
    + 154.38 Doc fee
    ---------------------
    89,875.97 Total Price

    If I do a 4k cap reduction plus 1 mo payment, acq cost, security deposit (which I might get out of cause I just returned my lease 7 months ago) my drive off cost would be $6572 and my monthly payment $1193. which includes 7% usage tax This is with the .0017 Money Factor.
  • bmwinfo1bmwinfo1 Posts: 2
    interested in buying out my 2007 750li pretty much loaded with 17k miles....have the dealer down to 45,695...is this a fair price for this car with certification?
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