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Chrysler Town & Country Lease Questions

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  • fredm6fredm6 Posts: 51
    Thanks again for answering my post. Call the Chrysler Rebate Center at 1-800-227-0757 and ask for the current rebates on Town and Country Touring. They will ask you your zip code to find the rebates and incentive for your region (these vary). If you do not qualify for the $1000 owner loyalty but the conquest cash of $750., it would appear that you should get $2750. They are currently offering $1500 plus $500 bonus cash. If there is an auto show in your region, you would get another $500. The Auto Show for my region is in Cleveland, 200 miles from me, but I qualify anyway.

    Did you mean that they would take $4400 off the Dealer invoice or the MSRP. Dealer Invoice for your van is in the upper $29000 range. The other factors, of course are the money factor and residual. By law, I believe that they are supposed to show you all factors up front. None of my dealers did. Your trade and paying off your old van will complicate matters, so it is difficult to campare your deal with mine. You should also ask about the Conquest cash ($750). I was told that I would qualify for that if I were leaving a Ford, Chevrolet, or any other brand and going into a Chrysler vehicle. As I said in an earlier post, one person in the rebate center told me that I qualified for both the Owner loyalty and conquest cash. The second call I made the another person told me that I did not qualify. It would seem that even though you have a Dodge you are staying with a Chrysler product and that would count for owner loyalty.

    I also hate trading as your husband does. It is hard to nail down all these things when you receive conflicting stories. I am sure you also know that there are three base Town and Country Touring prices out there. The new ones coming in reflect a $610 price increase over those that were built early in the model year. These prices are $27,700, $27,895 and $28,310. This is base before any options, but is reflected in the MSRP.. Good luck Let us know how things work out.
  • In our area--there is only the $1500 lease cash and $750 for current owners. We are looking at the $28310 plus the L pkg.... $32500. Yes, the $4300 is below invoice not MSRP.

    I will let you know --how the deal works out. Thanks for the advice and information.
  • fredm6fredm6 Posts: 51
    Thanks again for your reply. Go on Chrysler's own website and click on the T&C then Build one. After you have built it with the L package to the right they will show the sticker and at the bottom they show the New Day Package discount of $1525. They also show the $1500 rebate and below it $500 bonus cash. To my knowledge the bonus cash is not regional and you should qualify for it. They do not show the owner loyalty or conquest cash there since the person using this build site might not be a Chrysler owner. Will look forward to seeing your deal. That discount you are getting below invoice is fabulous.
  • Thanks for the additional information... but we only qualify for 1500 +750.
    I had a 2006 Caravan that they paid off completely--trying to figure out if they put money back into my residual or payment?

    Here is how it went down---I think we still got a decent deal, but the finance guy talked in circles.

    $28349+700(acquisition fee)=29049.58-2250(our rebates)=$26799.58
    They have our residual value at 17866.30 (seems high to me)

    My payments are $329+23.04(sales tax)

    What do you think?
  • Oh yeah... my price under invoice should have been $25425...he told me all the fees for lease included made it the $26799... does that sound right?
  • fredm6fredm6 Posts: 51
    I am getting my van today. Will post the figures later. It is hard for me to compare with you since you had a trade. Your monthly payment is much lower than mine. Sounds like you got a good deal. I really don't understand how they got the $26799 fees. I have had so many figures that I am now getting confused.
  • I guess I already signed on the dotted line... so I need to stop worrying about the numbers and just enjoy the vehicle. The kids love it....I think everyone in a 3 block radius could hear them when they saw the van last night. Power doors is new to me.. I keep starting the van -instead of opening a door. :shades: I will have to get those buttons figured out.

    It will take me the length of the lease to figure out how to work My Gig, etc...

    Let me know your numbers.

    Thanks
  • fredm6fredm6 Posts: 51
    I signed yesterday and did not get to give you my figures last night. Enjoy your van . Thats what I plan to do. I am still not sure that I got the best deal. Will give you more complete figures later.

    T&C Touring Signature Edtion (New Day Package) with L options, also Serus Backseat TV (which I did not want)
    MSRP $34165
    - $1525 discount for New Day Package (DVD)
    final MSRP $32640

    36 months, 15,000 miles per year, Monthly payment $394.32
    $766.82 paid at delivery, which included first months payment, taxes on the rebates and incentives and $75 document, transfer fees etc.

    I got credit for $4250 in rebates and incentives as follows:

    $1500 rebate
    500 bonus cash
    1,000 owner loyalty
    500 auto show discount
    750 conquest cash

    Total rebates and incentives $4250.

    It would seem to me that my dealer did not discount much, but just gave me credit for the Chrysler rebates.

    I got quotes from 5 dealers and this was the best. Had no luck in getting a quote by e-mail or phone. Those that I requested a quote from contacted me, and either called or e-mailed me without a quote. I went to each dealership in person.

    I found this experience very frustrating since I received a lot of misinformation or not enough information. I also found a difference in the money factor. I will post all of my offers soon.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,706
    just got a mailer from my dealer. I'm confused on so many levels. First, it lists a T&C SE "New Day" model for $199/36 mos with $1995 due at signing. This seems remarkably cheap, especially when looking at some of the prices posted here.

    2nd, just what is this model? This exact terminology is listed nowhere on the Chrysler site that I can find. I'm ASSUMING it is referring to the Signature Series Value Package. But I really don't know for sure. The mailer does not list an MSRP or cap cost or any of that important information. Simply that its for this model for 36 mos for 10,500 miles per year.

    Now, I would want to get a higher mileage lease... and maybe that's where they "get ya"? Does anyone, by any chance, know all of the details of this lease deal? I'm interested in the residual percentage for 10,500, as well as 15k and 18k per year. How about the money factor?

    I'm also confused about the rebates. The mailer states they will pay 3 months of our remaining payments on our Pacifica lease, but this takes the place of a loyalty rebate. Considering the loyalty rebate is $1k and 3 of our payments would be over $1400, it seems like a good trade-off. But is this an accurate assessment?

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • fredm6fredm6 Posts: 51
    I can understand why you are confused. I did a lot of research and still felt that way. I will try to answer some of your questions.
    First the T&C Special Edition New Day Package. They have had special editions before usually referred to as the Walter P. Chrysler Special Edition. The 05 T&C I am replacing had it, but then it included sun roof, navigation and DVD all at a really good price reduction. They are now calling this the New Day Package, which gives you a discount off the MSRP of $1525 for the DVD. This will show up on the sticker by reducing the final MSRP. I thought that this was all the package included, but found out that it also has the following: Deluxe center console, better EVIC (Electronic Vehicle Information Center) with controls on the steering wheel. Walter P Chrysler Badging on the side. Some dealers told me that there existing T&C Tourings were Special Edition by deducting the $1525 for the DVD. The better console and steering wheel controls were important to me and I held out for a "true" New Day Package. They can not make a "New Day" out of one that was not built that way.

    Your mailer price sounds almost too good to be true. They do make some of it up by allowing only 10,500 miles per year and the $1995 down. Ask them to give you a quote for 15,000 miles. They like to play around with the money up front to reduce the cap cost. Typical money out of pocket should be about $750. This would include tax on the rebates and incentives, first months payment and document fees.

    If they pay 3 months remaining for you then that sounds like a good deal. Better than taking the loyalty rebate.

    As to money factor and residual, they will not give you that unless you ask. I went to six dealers and had to request it from each of them. Then I found out that the money factor varied. I believe that there is a law on car leasing that requires dealers to disclose certain information such as this. In the "real world" out there I found out that all they wanted to give me was the length of the lease the monthly payment and amount due at signing. I was never given a breakdown of how they arrived at the final captalized cost, which would have included the Chrysler rebates and incentives and the dealer discount.

    I believe that if you go on Chryslers website and click on T&C , you will get some information on the "New Day Package".

    Good luck.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,706
    thanks for your help, fred.

    Yeah, I'm getting the feeling I have to just go to the dealer and work things out there. Which isn't a smart buying move, typically, but it seems Chrysler has sufficiently muddied the waters to the point that you have no other choice.

    The package is still really confusing only because it has a different name on my mailer and on the website. The only thing on the website that indicates "New Day" is the logo. Once you click on T&C, you get this: "You talk. We listen. Chrysler Town & Country Signature Series Value Package is now equipped with a no extra charge Dual DVD Rear Entertainment System ($1,525 value)"

    Sooo... nowhere does it say "Special Edition" or "SE" and nowhere does it say "New Day Package." I am just waiting for them to say "Oh, that means an LX model."

    Oh, and there is no moonroof listed. Is it true that the moonroof can only be had on the Limited model??

    And I should look for steering wheel controls and deluxe center console. Thanks for the tip. How does that console differ from a normal one, though? Just so I know what to look for.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,706
    Well, I called the dealership to get a few more details. He confirmed that this is the signature series model and the numbers provided are correct ($1999 down $199/mo). He also informed me that changing the mileage would equate to a $10/mo bump to 12k miles and another $12 to 15k. So for about $23-$24 more per month, we could get 15k per year. Doc fee is $195. He said nothing of a bank fee or security deposit. I think usually sec deposits are waived for returning lessees, though.

    SOOOO... now we're talking $2194 due at signing and $223/mo+tax for 3yr/15k lease on the Sig Series.

    Extras added to this particular deal would be what we owe on our Pacifica. They are paying 3 of the remaining 6 payments, leaving us with ~$1440 to pay. What I still don't know, however, is what other fees would be tacked on to ending that lease. Do they still charge the lease end fee of $350? Will they hit us for any excess wear and tear? These are questions yet to be answered.

    I know it is advised not to put money down on a lease. We will think about that. But I'm not completely against it because I don't agree with the reasoning ... to an extent. Folks say don't do it because if the car is totalled, you lose that money. Well, the same holds true of financing, yet it is advised to put down as much as possible. Hmmmm... Like I said, though, that is to an extent. I know you could get SOME of your money back in the financing situation, if you put enough down. But depreciation (and tax) still rears its ugly head and you will be out several thousand dollars. So I see nothing wrong with putting a couple grand down on a lease.

    Anyhooo... I told him we'd be down Saturday morning to check out the vehicle and, if we like it, talk further.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • fredm6fredm6 Posts: 51
    Hi abrozen
    Sounds like you really have a great deal. I am paying $394 per moth for 15k per year with $750 out of pocket. I did get Sirus TV , which is 495. It was on the T&C with the color I wanted and was hard to find in my area.

    As to It's A New Day signature package, if you go on Chrysler.com. Then click on the picture of the Town and Country. The next page will bring up a full picture of the T&C at the top. Below it are three small pictures with other features. On the left it mentions the It's a New Day Package. In the middle below the picture it says features: That list describes the package. Some things on there are standard like stow and go and leather. Two things I forgot to mention in my previous post were the remote start and EVIC with tire pressure monitoring. You would get tire pressure monitoring as standard, but this is the better one that tells you the inflation of each tire. The standard only indicates that you have a low tire. As to the Premium console , when you see the standard there is no comparison. We just returned from a 1400 mile trip and loved the console. It slides back so second seat passengers can use the cup holders. That is the top part. The entire console will also slide back. As to the better EVIC, as I said it is controlled from steering wheel. With the Basic EVIC you have to reach through the steering wheel to the instrument panel to operate it.

    I believe also that they do not offer the New day package on the LE or bottom model. I have only seen it on the Touring with the L package. As I said before make sure they don't try to sell you a Touring with DVD and deduct the $1525 and call it a New Day package. I had a couple of dealers who tried that.

    I would go for this if it as they say it is. Where do you live? I would have driven a distance to get a deal like that.

    Good luck. As to a fee at end of lease, that is waived if you are leasing another Chrysler Vehicle. I don't know what they will be doing in three years. As to putting money down on a lease, I would not worry about that. It is just reducing the cap cost to make the monthly payments lower. I always just figure what the total cost will be over the life of the lease. That would include any money down and total payments. Mine comes to $4,846 per year. You will be less than that. Since they are paying off three months of your Pacifica, I really don't know how they are able to give you such a good deal. The $4,846 per year includes $400 state tax.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,706
    thanks again, Fred.
    My wife is heading over there now just to see if she even likes the vehicle. I told her to make sure it is a signature series and ask them once again if this is the vehicle they are offering to us for $1999 down and $199/mo.

    If everything checks out on her end tonight, I'll be heading over there tomorrow.

    I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop. It just seems like it is too good to be true.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • bobtnjbobtnj Posts: 7
    Could you share the dealer / Salesman's name?

    Thanks.

    BOBTNJ@AOL.COM
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,706
    not allowed to share salesman's name.
    Dealer is Seaview Chrysler in Eatontown, NJ.

    OK.... so my wife went there Friday night and drove the vehicle. She liked it. So we went together Saturday. I drove it. Thought it was pretty nice. We liked the gadgets. So we went in to discuss the numbers.

    This, of course, as I suspected, is where it fell apart. Now, I can't completely blame them. For one, I did not think of all the angles. ALSO, a big big mistake on my part is that I misread the ad. The $199/mo with $1999 down was for a DODGE!! Dumb on my part? Yes. But, at the same time, I can't help but wonder why in the world I would get an ad from a Chrysler dealer that included a BS lease number for a Dodge. The sales manager admitted it was deceiving. Here the picture was of a T&C, the ad had the name of their Chrysler dealership at the top, yet the fine print stated Dodge Grand Caravan SE New Day edition.

    The angle I missed was the shuffling of the rebates. Whereas I was giving up the $1k loyalty rebate in exchange for $1500 off my current lease contract, the advertised lease deal included $1k off for loyalty. SO, if I wanted that advertised number, I needed to come up with the difference since my loyalty was going towards my current lease. Seems obvious now, but I just didn't see through the smoke and mirrors clearly.

    Anyway, long story short, while I was a bit peeved, it was mostly at myself. I mean, I knew it sounded too good to be true. I do fault them for not clarifying sooner. I never hid the ad. When I called, I stated the terms. I said this was on a signature series and its $1999 down and $199/mo. Salesman checked with the manager, called me back, and said the ad was accurate. So that was really just a flat out lie or stupidity on their part. But, putting that aside, they really did try to make the deal happen with the real-world numbers. And we wound up not all too far apart in the end. I believe it was around $4k down and $329/mo, if I'm not mistaken (and, let's not forget, over $2k of that was going toward our current lease, so if that was out of the equation, we're talking about $1700-$1800 down and $329/mo on a sig series, if I'm not mistaken). So, really, about $80/mo more than I expected based on the ad (which was for a Dodge, anyway).

    The end result is that my wife likes the vehicle and wants one. Which is a good thing. I've been trying to get her in a minivan for a LONG time, and she just keeps insisting on SUVs. So, I believe when our lease is nearly up in Aug or Sep, if the rebates are decent, we should be able to lease a T&C for the price we are after.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • Taking delivery of an ordered T&C Signature next week.

    Can you let me know what the current money factor and residual's are for this vehicle?

    Thank You.
  • ldunk99ldunk99 Posts: 1
    Any idea if Chrylser has a pull ahead program for a GM lease? I heard this exists but not sure what the name of it is.

    Thanks for any info,

    LDunk
  • fredm6fredm6 Posts: 51
    Last month there was something called "conquest cash" . It was $750. I do not know if that covered a competing brand. I would suggest that you call Chrysler and ask to speak to the rebate department. Ask them to give you all the rebates and incentives that are in effect now. I tried finding the incentives on line at various sites and found that they were not reliable. Some even said that there were no current rebates and incentives and several listed only the $1500 rebate and $500 bonus cash. The rebates and incentives changed on April 1. After you have called Chrysler and talked to one rep, then call back and talk to another. I got too different versions.

    You can also ask the salesman at a dealership to show you the sheet that lists all the rebates and incentives. Keep in mind that some of these are different for a lease than a sale. I really don't know why it is so difficult to find out the exact rebates and incentives. Hope someone can answer this.
  • fredm6fredm6 Posts: 51
    My recent leasing experience showed me that there is little disclosure regarding the details of the lease at most dealerships. The six dealerships I contacted all just gave me the MSRP, the cost per month, length of lease and miles per year. To find out the residual or the money factor, I had to ask. None showed me how they arrived at the monthly payment. From my previous leasing experience I felt that there were Federal Regulations regarding disclosure of lease details. I recently did some research and found some information.
    I strongly recommend that anyone who is considering leasing or in the process of leasing do some research. I found an interesting article on the website of The Automotive Dealership Institute entitled Automotive leasing in todays market. In the article it refers to Regulation M which was adopted in 1998 under the Federal Consumer Product Agency. You can find it as follows: www.autodealerinstitute.com/news/automotive-leasing-in-todays-market.

    You might want to mention this regulation and the disclosure requirements when negotiating your lease. If that link does not take you to it, just type it in Google and you should get a link to it.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    I'd be happy to help you out, aunixguru. You never mentioned how long you want to lease this van for or what mileage allowance you need. So for now I will assume that you are interested in a 36 month lease with 15,000 miles per year. Let me know if you want something different. Chrysler Financial's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease 2008 Chrysler Town & Country Touring Signature with 15,000 miles per year are .00181 and 50%, respectively. When negotiating your lease on this van, make sure to take the $1,500 cash incentive that Chrysler is currently providing on leases of it through Chrysler Financial into account.

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  • Thanks so much for the info.

    I am planning on only 12,000 a year. How does that affect the rate?
    Is the $1500 you mentioned in additon to the $1500 national on T&C and $1000 lease loyalty for a total of $4000?

    Thanks again carman.
  • steinstein Posts: 15
    There is a new lease offer on Chrysler.com in my area (NJ - Monmouth County). It offers a Town and Country signature edition for 299/mnth plus $1999 due at signing for 27 months.

    Car_man, could you please tell me the money factor and residual on this deal. In addition you please tell me the money factor and residuals for the T&C signature edition for 36 months for 10K and 12K miles per year.

    Thanks for your help!
  • Hi all, first post at this forum.

    I was looking at a T & C Touring last night with the New Day Package plus Nav. The dealer offered me invoice - 1500 for the national rebate and - 1000 more for trading in an Odyssey so the price was 28390 at that point.. The numbers came out to $404 / mo for 12k miles and 36 months with no money down (they are rolling the normal first payment + license into the lease so I have nothing due at signing)..

    Does that seem like a good deal? I've never done a lease before but it seems like a lot of car for the money. Can't believe all the features I get compared to a comparably price Honda Ody. I know some people say Honda's last longer but if I'm getting a 3 year lease, what's the difference and also, my 2002 Ody is having some pretty suspect tranny problems and I'm getting jerked around a bit by Honda on that even though I have an extended warranty.

    Anyway, if any of you car guys could tell me if that sounds like a reasonable deal, I'd appreciate it. Thanks!

    Also any obvious pitfalls about leases that a noob like me may not have thought of?
  • in4leasein4lease Posts: 2
    Hi,

    This is my first post...I am following quite a few posts :-). I am looking for T&C lease..here is what I have so far...
    T&C Touring w/ Leather and two DVDs (no navigation)
    MSRP $32,500 (rounded)
    Invoice $30,000
    After all rebates $28,850
    Resale value $21,000
    Lease term 27 months
    Total Miles 23,000
    Monthly payment $369 and $0 down

    I am not convinced about invoice price. It was hard to find similar model configuration on any online resource. Could any of you tell me if these numbers make sense?

    Funny thing was...dealer even did not show me any other models for the van!? Is this common?

    Thanks!
  • asdrew1asdrew1 Posts: 19
    What is common for dealers is to try to sell you the van that they want to sell you for the most money right now. Some times that means they don't go out of their way to show you all of their inventory.

    Unfortunately there aren't enough dealers who genuinely try to help you get into the van that you really want or need. Did the dealer have other vans available?

    A 27 month lease for only 23,000 miles is pretty restrictive. That averages 850 miles per month. I've never averaged less than 1250 per month and will put on 1,000+ miles just this weekend for a quick trip to Orlando & back from Atlanta. Extra miles over the lease agreement will cost you big time. Unless you hardly drive anywhere out of your town you would most likely go over the limit.
  • in4leasein4lease Posts: 2
    Thats my point as well...Dealer gave me only two options...with / without leather!!!

    I am going to look for other options around this area.

    Thanks!
  • If you got to Chrysler's website, then pick a dealer from the 'Find a Dealer' button, you can search their inventory.

    You don't have to rely on the dealer to show you what they have you can check yourself without leaving your PC.

    BTW, my dealer told me I could pick any combination of colors and features and he could probably find one within a week. So you may not have to rely on what's on the lot.
  • darthkendarthken Posts: 28
    Hello car man,

    You have helped me out in the past and I'm back again! Seeking current MF and residual for a Chrysler Town & Country touring, 12,000 miles per year, for both 27 and 36 month leases.

    Planning to lease before the end of April if I can get the deal I want. I am currently at the end of a $252/month, zero down/sign and drive, 27 month/12k lease on a 2006 T&C and if I get the same deal again I would be happy.

    Best regards.
  • steinstein Posts: 15
    For some reason, it seems that requests concerning the town and country are not answered.
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