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2013 and earlier-Mercedes-Benz S-Class Lease Questions

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  • mjr26mjr26 Posts: 1
    edited January 2011
    Car man.....there are a few 2010 S550's still on lots despite the fact that 2011's are out. There is 1 particular one (2010 S550 4Matic) I am looking at being sold by a local Mercedes dealer....it has 5,500 miles but has never been titled by dealer. They said they can do a lease on it and gave me a residual of 48% of 36 months....12k miles....and MF of .00330. Is Mercedes still leasing 2010 models? Or could the dealer be using another bank besides Mercedes Financial?

    In other words....if Mercedes Financial is the lease bank on this loan....can you tell me what the current MF and residual is on this 2010 car? I am thinking the dealer might be marking the MF up from what it really is to make a profit but I can't find residuals or MF's for 1 year old cars anywhere...I can only find them for 2011 models. I guess if this dealer is using a different bank than Mercedes Financial....then there really is no way for me to find out the true MF or residual, is there? (meaning I'll have to go by what they say the numbers are).
  • Hey mjr26. Technically one could still lease a 2010 model, however Mercedes is not providing lease support on '10s any longer. Combine that with the low residual values that a '10 would have this late in the model year and you may find that if you want to lease that you will be better off going with a 2011 model.

    I believe that MB Financial's current buy rate standard lease money factor is .00240 for consumers who qualify for its Tier 1 credit tier. The money factor that you were quoted definitely looks high to me.

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  • mm1250mm1250 Posts: 6
    edited May 2011
    Hello Car_man,

    Mercedes is running S-Class 4matic lease during May for $1249/mo on a 39months - 32,5k miles.

    Do you know what residual and money factor is being used to base that rate? I've been having trouble finding dealers willing to honer that lease offer from Benz. Also, would you know residual value for 39k miles?
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    I sure do mm1250. Mercedes'Benz Financial's May buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 39 month lease of a 2011 S550 4Matic with 10,000 miles per year are .00094 and 50%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The residual value for a lease with 12,000 miles per year, 39,000 total, would be 1% lower.

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  • shawn757shawn757 Posts: 115
    Car man,
    Can you post the residual and money factors for S 550 RWD for 2011 june? 15K miles. 27 month term, 39 month and 48 months?
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Here you go shawn757. Mercedes-Benz Financial's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2011 S550 RWD with 15,000 miles per year are .00072 and 59%, respectively.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease are .00072 and 47%.

    The 48 month numbers are .00072 and 38%.

    If the S550 is eligible for Mercedes' "Value Added" program then you probably will be able to use the 24 and 36 month terms for 27 and 39 month leases.

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  • Hi Car_Man,

    Do you have numbers on a 2012 S350 4matic with Premium package 2 and S400 too? Terms are 24 or 27 months and 10k mi/yr.

    And does it make sense to get those vs the S550? Would it be considerably cheaper since MSRP are relatively closee
  • kblll02kblll02 Posts: 2
    any idea on the 2012 S550 4matic residual values . what are the lease deals in Northern NJ. looking to lease one in the next 30 days
    thx
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi kblll02. Mercedes-Benz Financial's June buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 S550 4Matic with 15,000 miles per year are .00114 and 49%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

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  • Hello CarMan

    Do you know current residual and money factor for S350 Bluetec lease ? I'm interested in 24, 27 or 36 months lease with 10K or 12K miles pre year.

    Thank you.
  • Hello ymnik777. Mercedes-Benz Financial's December buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24-month lease of a 2013 S350 Bluetec with 12,000 miles per year are .00160 and 69% for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical 36-month lease are .00160 and 56%.

    The residual value for a lease with 10,000 miles per year would be 1% higher.

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  • Hey Carman, Could you please provide me with CPO lease rates, I know Mercedes is one of the few companies that does CPO leases up to 8 model years old. I need a lease for tax reasons otherwise id buy used and pay cash.

    I would be very appreciative if you could give me the basics of CPO leases with them as there is little info on the net. I already am very aware of fair selling prices of the cars I like just need to know lease terms as in the money factor, acq fees, and residuals. Id like as little out of pocket as possible, 0 Down etc. Please quote both 12k and 15k miles per year. Id consider 36 months but prefer 24 months.

    07,08, & 09 S, SL, & CL classes
    11-13 E Class

    Also any other highline brands doing CPO leases?

    Thanks a bunch in advance!
  • You're very welcome ymnik777.

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  • Hi bmw745ion19s. Unfortunately, given the fact that CPO leases are significantly less popular than new vehicle leases and yet have a large number of variables to keep track of, I do not personally keep tabs on the details of manufacturers' used vehicle lease programs. Sorry that I could not be of more help.

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  • Hi, Car_man and everybody, I am offered below lease package. Does it sound like a good deal? If not, what point should I bargin? Does't MF sound too high?

    It is a 2013 base model S550.

    36 month lease
    7,500 miles/yr
    MF 0.00195
    58% Residual ($56,361)
    $3,000 cash down
    $1088 +tax/mo
    +/-$1182/mo

    24 month lease
    7,500 miles/yr
    MF 0.00195
    71% Residual ($68,994)
    $3,000 cash down
    $987 +tax/mo
    +/-$1072/mo
  • ariazariaz Posts: 32
    Hi Car_man,
    please post RV and MF for 24 months 10k or 12k miles for S550 4matic
    Thanks
  • Hi broadbandd. You are correct, the money factor that you were quoted is too high. Mercedes-Benz Financial's January buy rate for the 2013 S550 is only .00160 for consumers who qualify for its Tier 1 credit tier. Make sure that the dealer uses that money factor to calculate your payment.

    You never mentioned this car's selling price. The selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable, just as if you were paying cash for or financing them. Without this number it is more difficult to tell how large a discount you are being given and in turn if there is room left to negotiate. Let us know what the selling price is and I'm sure that either myself or another knowledgeable community member will tell you what they think.

    Mercedes has $4,000 Winter Event certificates out there on this car right now. Make sure to take them into account during your negotiations.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    edited January 2013
    Here you go ariaz. Mercedes-Benz Financial's January buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24-month lease of a 2013 S550 4Matic with 12,000 miles per year are .00160 and 70% for consumers who qualify for its Tier 1 credit tier.

    The residual value for a lease with only 10,000 miles per year would be 1% higher.

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  • Thanks, Car_man. MSRP is 97150.
  • You're welcome broadbandd. The MSRP is different than the selling price. Do you know what selling price the dealer is giving you?

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  • amirasamiras Posts: 15
    Hi Car_man! Can you please let me know the residual and MF for a 2012 S550 24 months/7,500 miles/yr?
    Thanks in advance for your help!

    Angel
  • Greetings Angel. Mercedes-Benz Financial's February buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24-month lease of a 2013 S550 without 4Matic with 7,500 miles per year are .00127 and 71% for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    Mercedes-Benz is not currently providing lease support on the 2012 version of this car. I can look into what it's lease program would be for you, but I suspect that the payments on 2013 models are more attractive at this point.

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  • ericeserices Posts: 1
    Hi Car Man

    Can you please tell me what the money factor and lease residual for:
    2013 s550 4Matic
    24 months 7500 miles?
    what is the discount for 1 pay of the lease?
    also, what dealer cash is there?
    thank you!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    edited March 2013
    Hi erices. Mercedes-Benz Financial's March buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24-month lease of a 2013 S550 4Matic with 7,500 miles per year are .00139 and 59% for consumers who qualify for its top credit tiers.

    I haven't looked into it lately, but the last time I checked Mercedes-Benz Financial's money factor reduction for a 1 pay lease was .00110.

    Mercedes has $3,500 "Customer 1" certificates out there on this model. See if you can get the dealer to use one on your deal.

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  • gs80gs80 Posts: 7
    Car Man,

    Did the money factor go from .00127 in February to .00139 in March? I was comparing your replies to an S550 with non-4matic from February. Also the residual was 71% for a 24 month lease of a non-4matic in February vs. 59% for a 4matic in March. Am I comparing Apples to Oranges?

    Thanks.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi gs80. You're comparing oranges to tangerines perhaps :). The money factor is still .00127 on the non-4Matic and .00139 on the 4Matic version of this car. The 24-month, 15k residual value for a '13 S550 is 67%. The resid is 1% higher on the 4Matic model.

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  • gs80gs80 Posts: 7
    Thanks Car_Man. That helps me.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    I'm glad that I could help you out gs80. See you around.

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  • kblll02kblll02 Posts: 2
    hi
    does anyone know money factor and residual value for 2013 S550 4MAtic for 24 month lease (12k and 15k miles). the dealer is saying that since they have a new redesigned model, 24 month is better than 36 month lease
    also what is the selling price in the northern NJ area? I am seeing MSRP @ about 102K
    thx
    K
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