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2013 and earlier Nissan Pathfinder Lease Questions

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  • Hey drdrakeramore. Nissan Motor Acceptance Corp.'s February buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 Pathfinder SL 4WD with 12,000 miles per year are .00134 and 56% for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The numbers for otherwise identical leases of the '13 Pathfinder SV 4WD and S 4WD are .00134 / 58% and .00134 / 61%.

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  • Hey Car_man,

    Some follow-up questions to your helpful reply to drdrakeramore:

    - What is the Feb residual for Pathfinder Platinum?
    - Do the money factor and residuals change if the vehicles are FWD?

    Thx!
  • Looking for residual and rate for platinum premium 15k miles....
  • aqflipino1aqflipino1 Posts: 2
    edited February 2013
    2013 Nissan Pathfinder SL 4x4 with trailer tow package, roof rail crossbars and splash guards.
    MSRP: $38,145
    36 Months, 12,000 miles / year
    After rebates and credits: $66 Due at signing (including $528.76 first month payment)
    $528.76 total / month

    Agreed price: $34,342
    CA Tax 8%: $1,410.12
    Acquistion fee: $595
    Rent Charge: $4,053.24
    Residual: $21,361.20 (56%)
    Money Factor: .0020

    Did I do okay? How badly did I get ripped off? Thank you!
  • Ok, so I wasn't able to make my deal at the end of last month with the info that I posted.

    I don't have the money factor, sales price or residual, so I'll have to rely on Car Man to make sure I'm doing ok.

    I just got in writing from my dealer on a 2013 Nissan Pathfinder SL Premium with mats, splash guards, roof rails -- MSRP $38,895.

    39 month/12k lease
    $1k total out of pocket.
    $429 plus tax monthly lease payment (so about $454 and change a month).

    I'm thinking of going in tomorrow to sign paperwork, but using the last month's figures of a 54% residual and .001430 money factor (I don't think this has changed), this seems like a hell of a deal, no?

    I also got in on the $500 Visa Card promotion from Edmunds for the Pathfinder.

    Please let me know if I should be pushing more on this or if I should sign on the dotted line.

    Thanks.
  • Hi CarMan,

    Looking for money factor and residuals for 12 and 15k per year on SL and Platinum AWD. I thought I saw February's money factor at .00134. Looking for residuals for 39 months!

    Are there any other rebates above and beyond the $650 lease cash?

    Thanks,
    Rich
  • nsohionsohio Posts: 2
    edited February 2013
    Looking at leasing a 2013 pathfinder sl 4x4 msrp 35900 with 20000 mi /yr for 36 mos. I have been offered $559/mo inc first mo payment, tax title etc. this includes 3 mo early lease pull ahead offer$1000 owner loyalty, waiver $500 wear n tear on previous car n waiver disposition fee. Was looking to purchase with driving 19000 mi or more per year but this lease seems a good offer. Any thoughts? Also looking at buick enclave same price and mileage or Infiniti jx
  • Is there an official pull ahead program going on right now? If so, carman, can you speak to the details of a platinum pathfinder 4x4 with 12k miles for 36 months. Also, i'll post in the proper forum but if you could mention if the pull ahead would cover murano's i'd be interested as well.

    Thanks for all of your answers, great forum!
  • This is Infiniti pull ahead program. Nissan has said they have a lease buyout starting in march
  • thanks for getting back to me, i need it! did you hear any details?

    Also, does anyone know how it works with Miles? do you get your full 36k for example or is it pro-rated to the date you turn it in?
  • Hey Nissan Motor Acceptance Corp.'s February buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 Pathfinder Platinum 4WD with 12,000 miles per year are .00134 and 55% for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The residual values for the 2WD version are 2% lower. The money factor is the same.

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  • Hi beergutvt. NMAC's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 Pathfinder Platinum 4WD with 15,000 miles per year are .00134 and 54% for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

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  • Hello Rich. NMAC's February buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 Pathfinder SL 4WD with 15,000 miles per year are .00134 and 55% for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a 2013 Pathfinder Platinum AWD are .00134 and 54%.

    If you were to lease with only 12,000 miles per year, this truck's residual values would be 1% higher.

    You are already aware of the $650 cash incentive on leases of the Pathfinder in certain areas. I think that there's another $300 dealer cash floating around out there as well.

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  • You are allowed to use your full term mileage limit, regardless of when you turn it in. For example, let's say you have a 36 month lease and are allowed 12,000 mile per year. Even if you reach 36,000 miles in say, 33 months, you would still be safe using the pull ahead program to lease a new vehicle and would owe nothing extra. Hope that helps!
  • Can I please have 10K and 12K residual value and money factor for a 2013 Platinum or SL Premium for February and thoughts on March program. Live in South Florida. Still have 1 month remaining on current lease. Numbers are not that compelling to rush our and lease now.
    happy to hear your opinion. Looking at 4X2's
  • frackingfracking Posts: 7
    Please let us know if money factor and residuals changed for March,. Platinum in South florida.

    Thanks,
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi fracking. Nissan Motor Acceptance Corp.'s current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 Pathfinder Platinum 2WD with 12,000 miles per year are .00134 and 53% for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a '13 SL Premium 2WD are .00134 and 55%.

    I agree, the numbers on the '13 Pathfinder wouldn't be compelling enough for me to rush and get out of my current lease early to get one.

    If you wouldn't mind going with a leftover 2012 Pathfinder, you might be able to get a heck of a deal on one right now.

    Nissan just introduced a whopping $4,000 loyalty cash incentive on it for current NMAC lessees. On top of that there is a $1,525 cash incentive on leases of that truck in your area and another $1,000 bonus cash. Combine that with the fact that dealers will likely be anxious to move them and you might be able to get one heck of a deal.

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  • Just leased a 2013 4WD SL Premium in Denver area, Mocha Stone w/ Almond, mats, splash guards. MSRP $39,895, negotiated sales price $35,029, net cap cost (after $650) rebate $34,379. Plus $500 Nissan gift card through Edmunds. Dealer threw in cross bars, all weather mats and a cargoliner from Weathertech (behind 2nd row). Plus 6 oil changes.

    56% residual for 12K, 36 mos; MF is not as good at .00134 but we worked hard on the price. Wife loves it!

    I noticed there is $500 bonus cash available on the SV trim right now, which combines with $650 lease cash . Note: you pay tax on that amount, depending on the state you're in.
  • frackingfracking Posts: 7
    Did you pay any money at inception. Dealer fees, tax or tag, first months payment, or was everything rolled intot he cap cost. Any money at the start at all or was it a sign and drive. If you don't mind what is your monthly payment?
  • Just the normal bits were paid up front: we did not capitalize acquisition fee or any of that (I didn't want to pay finance and tax on it). They would've been fine with us capitalizing everything - it was a choice for us to keep our net cap very clean.

    I'm not remembering exact payment, but you can plug the numbers I provided into any calculator and spit it out: $400-some-odd. Fantastic dealership, can't speak highly enough of Tynan's in Fort Collins. Other area dealers...not so much.

    Let me know if you need a contact.
  • mcjennmcjenn Posts: 4
    Hi Car Man -

    Need some help negotiating a least on at 2013 Pathfinder SL. Our lease is about up on our Nissan Altima (2010) coming in under miles. Originally Nissan told us $3000 down and $669/month which I find is ridiculous. We told them we wanted to be at around a $500 car payment. They came back with $4000 down and $579/month. I have seen on here people putting down $1000 or even $500 and getting a payment of $430-$450/month car payments on a SL Platinum.

    So i went back to Nissan after reading posts on here...I said we wanted to put down anywhere from $500-$1000 and be under a $500 car payment. They came back with. $1000 down on the SL with $586 car payment. Said this would include all taxes. I feel we are getting screwed here especially seeing others getting a better deal based on this message board.

    Am I missing something? We are going to meet with the GSM on Friday as he wants to go over the numbers with us...he said he would work with us...said something about a Tax Incentive as well?

    Any help you can provide would be great.

    Thanks!
  • mcjennmcjenn Posts: 4
    To add, we are in Naperville, IL
  • drdrakeramoredrdrakeramore Posts: 43
    edited March 2013
    Hi - a couple thoughts on your negotiating:
    • Work with multiple dealers over the internet, not just one - you can try carwoo or Edmunds or the tactics espoused by the guy from www.findthebestcarprice.com
    • Don't focus on monthly payment, focus on sales price of car ("net cap cost" in lease terms) - that combined with the MF/APR + Residual = your monthly payment. You want to get there cleanly, not by having a salesman 'work' the numbers to meet your budget (by stretching the term or increasing your downpayment, for instance). The bigger the spread between MSRP and sales price the lower your lease cost (all else equal), so work that angle
    • Educate yourself on lease calculations - fully. Take a look at the calculator on http://www.theautoleasecalculator.com/, it explains things pretty well. There is a thread at the start of this forum on leases as well. Very few salesmen understand how leases work, be better informed than they are and tell them what you expect. Ensure they're using the NMAC numbers for MF and residual! Currently 56% for 36 mos, 12 K miles for 2013 4WD SL in Colorado; MF=.00134
    • There are a few free apps out there that do a very good job (for Android and iOS) for real time calculations.
    • The tax incentive he's talking about is probably just on trading in your Altima, but I can't think of how that would help you on a lease (other than just by reducing the amount you finance, your 'net cap cost'). You can look it up for IL, but trading in basically decreases your tax liability on the new car. i.e. you already paid taxes on the Altima, so you only pay taxes on the difference in value between Altima and new car. For leasing, I can't think of any real advantage other than reducing your cap amount.
    • Do your trade-in smart, too: get offers from other dealers (and/or carmax, autotrader) on your Altima and make your chosen dealer match or better those offers. Don't do them as part of the same equation - your liable to get shorted on both transactions.
    • One thing to remember: a lot of states require you to pay taxes on any downpayment ("cap cost reduction"), so a downpayment costs you in a couple ways. Even a factory rebate counts as one of these (I had to pay $50 tax on the $650 Nissan rebate with our latest lease).
    Oh, the short of it: We put zero down on our new 2013 SL Premium w/ lots of extras and we're paying in the mid-to-low $400s. Also make sure you take advantage of the $500 gift card from Nissan (for purchasing a new Pathfinder) that you can find on this site.
  • mcjennmcjenn Posts: 4
    Wow! This is very helpful. I really appreciate your help on this!
  • mdspinnermdspinner Posts: 14
    Carman, can you provide MF and residual on 13 pathfinder:

    S 12k/year 36 mo.

    SV 12k year, 36 months.

    Also, any lease cash, rebates on these leases other than pull ahead, NY state.

    Thanks!
  • A few days ago in Colorado it was 58% for SV and 61% for S @ 12K, 36 mos. They had $650 lease cash and an extra $500 bonus cash. Looks like the bonus $ is good on S, SV and SL now
  • steve707steve707 Posts: 12
    Hi Car_Man,

    I am considering leasing a leftover 2012 Pathfinder 4x4 in PA / NJ area. Do you know what are the incentives for March in this area? Would it be correct to base the negotiated price as Dealer Invoice less available incentives? Finally, can you provide residual and money factor for a 36 / 39 month lease @ 12k miles annually.

    Thanks
  • Quoted the following, going to pick it up now. Hopefully everything goes as expected.

    SL 4x2 with premium package (MSRP $38645)

    39mo./15k @ $429 a month no money down, paying taxes and fees up front. Plus $500 edmunds.com rebate.

    The information on this forum has been invaluable to negotiating what I feel is a fair deal.
    Hopefully things don't change once I get to the dealership.
  • Can anyone help me by telling me what they believe a reasonable lease price is for a 2013 pathfinder sv? Or a 2013 pathfinder sl with trailer tow package? Or 2013 pathfinder with premium package? We are currently handing in a nissan murano and would like to try out a pathfinder. Anyone currently leasing and willing to share payment info. We want to put zero money out of our pocket! We have put money down before but don't want to this time..not even taxes or fees.

    Also, does anyone happen to know the residual or money factor on these models?

    Any info would be greatly appreciated!
  • I did quite a bit of research before signing on an SL this weekend. The residuals I found in my area (VA) were 0.53 for fwd and 0.55 for 4x4 (12000mi). The money factor was 0.00134. I was able to get these numbers from various dealers. Good luck and make sure you sign up for the $500 visa gift card edmunds.com offer.
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