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1Demo had 12500kms. (MSRP in Canada for the car is $38995)My deal had a final cost of $36 000 (no other fees). 2.8% financing (non-negotiable) over 4 years with a $14 530 residual ($1007 off normal residual due to kms on car). Total tax rate here is 14%. My monthly payments are $577 all-in. Also got them to install an automatic car starter at no charge. Thanks.

1A few important questions I was hoping you might be able to help me with when you have a moment:

1. Can you tell me the lease money factor and residual value percentage for a 2007 Subaru 2.5i Outback Limited Wagon?

2. I am using lease calculators to learn about this whole craziness....and I am a bit confused by the residual value computation. Is the residual value based on the Cap Cost or the Adjusted Cap Cost? It seems to me that, regardless of what one pays for a car, it is worth the same at the end of, say, 4 years and with 40,000 miles on it, no? Therefore, it would seem that the residual value is based on the Cap Cost NOT the adjusted cap. Please confirm or clarify if you would.

3. Finally, it seems that depreciation values set by leasing companies are rather high. If I return a leased car after four years with 40K miles, how am I to believe that the car is, say, 48% depreciated (52% residual value) when the private sale value after four years is more like a 65% residual value? Is this a profit angle or a cover-our-butts strategy to protect the leasing companies from value gaps?

Thanks for the help.

And again, thanks for being there.

3,728Do you have info on current mfr. (by Chase) lease MF and residuals on '07 Legacy GT Ltd/Outback XT Ltd wagons for 24/36 months and 15000 miles/yr? Is Spec B sedan any different? The region is Southeast (FL), if it matters. Feel free to volunteer any special/sunsidized rate they might have with other term lengths. I appreciate your help in advance.

2012 BMW 328i wagon, manual and sports package. No. sold in the US: 1. Probably.

1I'd like to know what you'd consider fair lease terms for an Outback 2.5i Basic 4EAT-S with a sale price of $22,000. I'll be trading in a vehicle with $2,000 of equity in it, and looking for a lease of 3 years/45,000 miles. Thanks.

38,515Vehicles' residual values are always based upon a percentage of their full MSRPs, including the destination charge and any options that can be residualized. So you are right, regardless of how much one pays for their vehicle, it is only worth a specific amount at the end of their lease. Vehicles' residual values are based upon a realistic assessment of what banks believe vehicles will be worth after a specific period of time. Many banks actually artificially inflate vehicles' residual values, making them unrealistically high so that they can provide consumers with attractive lease payments. Manufacturers like BMW do this sort of thing all the time. Most banks don't set vehicles' residuals too low though. There is a great article on how to calculate lease payments here at Edmunds.com. You definitely should check it out: Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.

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1I see the Subaru has a special for $239 per month on the 2.5I Basic.

What are my chances in getting a 2.5I Automatic. $2k down 42 months 15k per year at $290 per month In RI.

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630I am NOT a Subie Newbie, and carman has helped me in the past. Now my wife has had it with our '96 Acura RL, and wants a second subie.

CarMan do you know the current #'s (money factor, incentives, etc) on the 2007 Outback 2.5i? I have tried to get into one in the past, but could never get a favorable lease. I am seeing some nice looking monthly numbers being advertised out here (NJ), so I am hoping we can take the leap, and am starting to e-mail dealers in a 60 mile radius.

Loving my 2006 Tribeca!

AJFITZ

30Here is what I was just offered, and I am HOPING that I might finally get in to a new Outback (although my Tribeca is still very very nice)......

07' Outback Wagon 2.5i 4Cyl

Selling Price: $22,627

Redidual 55%

MFactor .00210

42 month lease with 12K miles a year $314/month which includes taxes, and $626.51 down (includes first months, registration fees, tags, etc).

How does this one sound??

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283191MSPR was $23,950 (might as well say 24k) and i would like to know the lease amounts for a 36 and 42 month, 12k miles per year with 0 down. I am not sure i understand what the Redidual & MFactor amounts are that you keep mentioning in previous posts.

thanks for any help you can provide,

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38,515I would be happy to estimate what this car's lease payment should be like right now for you, but in order for me to do so I need you to provide me with its selling price. The selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable, just as if you were paying cash for or financing them. You may be able to get an idea of how much you should pay for this vehicle right now by visiting the following discussion: "Subaru Outback: Prices Paid & Buying Experience". Let me know what selling price you come up with and I'll crunch some numbers for you.

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11I'm writing from near Detroit. I've leased several vehicles but this would be my first Subaru. Would you have a look at these deals and let me know what you think? They're both for the same car, a 2007 Outback 2.5i manual transmission; MSRP 25,942, 12K miles a year:

2-year option:

24 months with 12k a yr with a total due at signing of $610.52 + plate; payment would be $290.72 with tax

24 months 12k residual is .67 and money factor is .00200 cap cost is $21,400

3-year option:

36 months with 12k with a total due at signing of $608.90 + plate; payment would be $289.10 with tax

36 months 12k residual is .59 and money factor is .00240 cap cost is $21,200

Thanks in advance!

1What Lease Payment do you get with the following terms:

MSRP: 28,346

Sales Price: 25,453 (already includes incentives)

Residual: 15,590.30 (55%)

Money factor: .0026

Acquisition Fee: 595

First mos and security deposit waived

42 mos.

10,000 per year.

New Jersey

Option A

We were going to strip out the tax and title and pay that outright (1782 for tax and 371 for title and registration) plus zero additional down.

Option B

TTR + 1,000 down

Are these good deals? Am I missing something?

Thanks in advance

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38,515The base version of this vehicle has a spread of around $1,700 between its MSRP and its dealer invoice price. Add the $750 cash incentive to that and we have a total of around $2,450 to play with. You were quoted nearly a $2,900 discount on this vehicle, which looks like a very good deal to me. If you like it, I personally don't see any reason not to do this deal.

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10MSRP: 28,138 (does not 1000 LL Bean rebate, but residual worked off of 28,138)

Cap Cost: 23,490 (includes 750 lease cash and 1000 LL Bean Rebate)

Residual: 67% (12k/yr)

MF: .00265

24 month lease

ACQ Fee: 595

-Dan

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1The terms for a lease I'm looking at are:

Term: 42 mo

MF: .0025

Residual: 51% (13029) 15K miles/yr

Selling Price: $23640

MSRP: $25549

I'm looking at a $265/mo (or $298/mo with taxes ect rolled in). This includes a trade-in of $2100. Price includes incentives.

From what I have read, this sounds a like good deal? Any comments?

Thanks.