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Nissan Versa

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  • jd10013jd10013 Posts: 779
    would be nice though to see it show up as an se-r varriant in the next redesign.
  • aladdinsanealaddinsane Posts: 182
    Oh man......Who mentioned anything about a new redesign with the '08 Versa? I speak of improvements, not redesign. I KNOW the Versa is NOT the TIIDA, friend. What you say I know, and you're going way beyond with my simple inquiry input here for this Nissan. You're off key, but so be it. I need not hold my breath for a "redesign" cuz it ain't gonna happen anytime soon. I'm well aware of that. But Nissan can still improve its current version. It probably will, as time goes on, hopefully beginning with the '08 version. This IS/WAS my point!

    That's it!

    Peace!<-- :shades: -
  • jd10013jd10013 Posts: 779
    my appoligies then, I mistook what you were hoping for. But out of curiosity, what changes/improvements would you like to see made to the car?

    My top choice would be a 2 door sports coupe version like the original concept. I've always thought tuner cars should be 2 door. the four door sentra se-r, and se-r spec v just don't look right as a sedan.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,621
    Two things that would make the Versa just about perfect for me (well, ok, not perfect but a lot more desirable) would be standard ABS and re-designing the rear seat so that it folds flat. Tuning for higher fuel economy would be nice also, but considering the car is more like a compact than a subcompact, its fuel economy isn't that bad.
  • bikedorianbikedorian Posts: 48
    "re-designing the rear seat so that it folds flat."

    I did a homemade fix for this. I built a riser in two sections. They're light weight so are easily taken out when not in use which is most of the time. They can be used with a top platform or left open so that little storage space is lost in the trunk. I could spray paint them to better match the interior but since I'll use them to haul mulch and compost (in containers) most of the time, I don't see the point.
    What I would have liked to see was a front passenger seat that folds flat like some of the competition (Matrix). I was able to get six foot sections of lumber in the car with the hatch closed so longer pieces with the hatch open would be no problem. It would have been easier if the front seat folded flat.

    David
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    Well, the JDM Tiida has a major suspension retuning done after only a year of its release in 2004, so anything can happen where you cannot see. My sources in Japan say that, at least for the Tiida, no major changes are forthcoming in the near future (cosmetic changes expected in late fall 2007 in Japan). Whether any such changes actually transfer over to the NA market's Versa remains to be seen. I personally bet against that.
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    I think that the luggage box that they have available for the JDM Tiida is the best solution, and I hope that they will bring that accessory here. It not only creates the flat luggage area when the rear seat folds, but also creates a nice underbox to conceal things. The trade-off is the lost volume in the luggage area when the rear seatback is raised, but that luggage box should work for most people.
  • netranger4netranger4 Posts: 149
    I'm wondering if the Versa Hatchback has underpinnings or moutnting points for a manual wheelchair carrier? Haven't seen one on a lift to see what the underside looks like.

    Perhaps someone out there has had a similar requiremnt.

    Any assistance appreciated.
  • danzigdandanzigdan Posts: 50
    Just an observation. I stopped at the dealer this morning to see what they had and I counted about 12 SL models on the lot and not a single S model! A few weeks ago it was the reverse--they had about six S models and I think only two SL.

    I still find it annoying that of all the SL models only about 1/3 had the ABS package.

    I did see two Versa sedans as well.
  • bikedorianbikedorian Posts: 48
    Which dealer?

    David
  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    The best thing to do is contact a Nissan dealer. Most car manufacturers have special programs for assisting drivers with handicaps. They should be able to answer your questions.
  • idntnvuidntnvu Posts: 251
    My sister is considering a new Versa. She will probably go pretty basic with the power options and an automatic. Any big differences between the CVT and the 4-speed auto? Which one would you recommend? We're trying to keep the total price under $14,000. Do you know if a cd and cassette audio option is available? Her other option is a new Toyota Yaris, but I'm also going to make her look at the Sentra, Toyota Corolla, Honda Civic, plus Kia and Hyundai small cars as well as some used alternatives that might be in the price range. Any suggestions or ideas?
    Thanks!
    idntnvu
  • bikedorianbikedorian Posts: 48
    The difference between the four sp. auto and the CVT is not subtle but how much that matters to someone is very much an individual thing. You'll get a bit better mileage with the CVT as well.
    Those are all decent cars you're considering. Do extended test drives on each one and know in advance what the vehicle will be used for. There are big differences in interior space on each and how that space is apportioned is different. A hatch is a lot more VERSAtile than a sedan but the looks aren't for everyone. A sedan should also weigh a little less and cost a bit less.
    Last, don't let a few hundred dollars be the deciding factor. Get the car you want. And be sure your sister has a fun experience shopping for a car. It's tough to make a good decision when we feel stressed.
    Audio cassettes are obsolete. If you have to have one, buy an older used car. To retrofit a tape player into a new car will be a big waste of money.

    David
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,621
    You'll get a bit better mileage with the CVT as well.

    Actually, tests by C/D showed the 4AT gave better fuel economy than the CVT on the highway. So depending on driving pattern, someone could get better FE with the 4AT.
  • bikedorianbikedorian Posts: 48
    "So depending on driving pattern, someone could get better FE with the 4AT."

    Of course driving pattern has a great deal to do with fuel economy and if you drive like C/D, you're going to get poor fuel economy regardless of transmission. C/D and it's subscribers are not interested in fuel economy. I haven't read that review in quite awhile but it was not geared toward the normal subcompact car buyer. I believe most of us are buying these cars for the best bang for the buck, not ultimate performance.

    David
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,621
    I am referring to the test C/D did specifically with the Versa CVT vs. the 4AT in response to a challenge from Mr. Ghosn that the CVT offers better fuel economy. It was a long highway trip, which is something many people do. It was not the typical C/D review, not 0-60 oriented (although they did test 0-60 and found the CVT offered a small advantage there).
  • bikedorianbikedorian Posts: 48
    The review I remember, although I can't currently find it on their website, had them getting poor mileage from the CVT. I chalk that up to driving habits. My CVT equipped Versa gets approx. 35 mpg highway. I haven't seen anyone claiming that with a four speed regardless of driving habit.

    David
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,621
    It was from the May 2007 issue. Here's the start of the thread in this discussion, with some more details:

    backy, "Nissan Versa" #985, 31 Mar 2007 10:46 am

    The point of the article was that when two Versas, one CVT and one 4AT, were compared on exactly the same highway course, the 4AT was more efficient. So maybe if you had the 4AT, you could get more than 35 mpg on the highway.
  • bikedorianbikedorian Posts: 48
    Do you have a link to the article itself? One unscientific test is is just a data point. C&D is an enthusiast's publication. It's not a scientific publication so don't read too much into it. Lots of folks are posting their actual mileage figures and the CVT is the clear winner from all that I've read.
    Mileage aside, the CVT is noticably quieter and smoother than the 4 speed. If the Versa had only been available with the 4 speed, I might be driving something else right now.

    David
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,621
    Here's the link, although the web page doesn't include the results table:

    http://www.caranddriver.com/columns/12751/the-steering-column-a-pair-of-industry-bigwigs-talks-technology-at-the-detroit-auto-show.html

    Here's what the original article had for FE results:

    CVT: EPA 30/36, C/D Test Loop 33.2 mpg
    4AT: EPA 28/35, C/D Test Loop 35.4 mpg

    I am not sure why you think this was an "unscientific" test. Since it was done simultaneously, on the same test loop, with professional drivers and fuel measuring equipment, it seems more scientific to me than a single Versa owner reporting his/her results. And the editor, Csaba Csere, offers up some scientific rationale for why the 4AT would do better on the highway than the CVT.

    Just because one publication found that the 4AT gets better fuel economy on the highway than the CVT doesn't mean the CVT isn't the right choice for you, or others. But if someone is looking for optimum fuel economy in a Versa for mostly highway cruising, the CVT may not be the best option.
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