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SmartCar smart cars?

deaner14deaner14 Posts: 40
edited March 25 in smart
I had the opportunity to make it back to Toronto recently and noticed a number of Smart Cars cruising and parked in the streets.

Although time didn't permit me to seek out the "expert" dealer opinions, I was interested tosee if there were any out there that have first-hand knowledge of these vehicles and what the experience is like. I've been to the Smartcar website and liked what I saw... especially the Roadster version.

I'd consider purchasing one for South-Central Texas although I'm sure it would be laughed at and ridiculed by the "bigger in Texas" mentality.

Also, I'm not sure how to get one of these down here for my own personal use. I thought I had read somewhere that they weren't "legal" in the states just yet.

Any thoughts?

Thanks
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  • yerth10yerth10 Posts: 428
    Hello friend

    Seems lot of people in Texas are trading their SUV's for smaller cars. If you have only 1 or 2 members in your family, u can go for Smart car and zapcars is selling that vehicle.

    Lot of smaller models are coming up while the biv SUV sales are declining.
  • I've sat in one, which was placed inside a department store as a prize or something. It feels quite roomy inside. The quality of the materials is quite high. These cars are good for driving in congested cities, because they get great mileage, and are so easy to park that you can actually park them head first at a curb, since they are as long as some cars are wide.

    The downside is that there is virtually no storage space, no cruise control, and these cars are rather expensive for their size (they cost like an entry-level midsize sedan, or a loaded compact sedan). But being sold by Mercedes, it's hard to expect anything else.
  • Would you happen to remember what the prices were like. Can't seem to find anything accurate on the web without divulging too much info. I'm looking towards the roadster. Thanks
  • I just test drove a fortwo on the weekend. Absolutely loved it! Fun Fun Fun. Very slick clutchless shifting, plenty of zip (esp. low end torque from the 800cc. diesel engine), lots of room, and more space behind the seat than you would expect, (you could pile a few duffel bags behind the seats. The seats are comfy, highway cruising is no problem and the brakes are great. How does 60mpg in the city and 80 on the highway sound? The little diesel is quiet and smokeless yet I have heard they are developing a gasoline engine for the US market (I hope they still offer the stingy, torquey diesel). The vehicle has a formula one inspired space frame that makes the little car safer than many bigger cars. In Europe, where they have been selling since 1999 the Smartcar has a reputation for excellent reliability also. It is my understanding that they sell from $16,900 to about $22,000 Cdn and there is often a waiting list.
  • hi, i own a Smart Passion fortwo. They are a blast. everyone stares. it takes 1/2 an hour to get out of parking lots for all the people stopping to ask ?'s. the cars are hard to get here in the U.S. dealers can't sell them. they have to have emmisions upgrades to get a registration. I live in south florida and this one is up to code and registered it was brought over by a guy who lives in England.
    I will be listing it on ebay as of this friday 3/24 it is a '99 mercedes smart passion fortwo with under 57,000 km great condition, clean no problems. starting bid is $12,000
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    If you don't mind me asking- why are you selling such a fantastic car?

    Are you upgrading to a new Smart ForTwo?
  • just had a baby :(
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    guess two seats won't cut it anymore, eh?
  • watkinstwatkinst Posts: 122
    Zap got the jump on Mercedes and I suspect there will be a big blow up once Mercedes decides they can actually sell the car in the US. More than anything I think its all politics. We have motorcycles with 1000cc engines sold by the hundreds with minimal polution controls on them in the US each year even in California. I ride a motorcycle all the time and if I could trade it for a quality car like the SMART with airbags and a roof I would be there in a second. I think the problem with the small cars and the perception in the US is that all of the small cars we have seen besides the original Civic are total junk. The SMART appears to have serious engineering and quality materials and that is a big plus even if it is a pint sized car. The small GM cars are still $18K or more and they are garbage. Seriously I think the first company to get SMART and sell a quality small car for a resonable price in the US will have a winner. The Mini is clearly to expensive for most people but the concept of a small quality car has made it very popular. I don't see why the SMART car would be much different only perhaps more affordable and great for the daily trip to the office.
  • I was recently in Italy and these cars were everywhere, does anyone know where and if you can purchase one in Southern California?
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    There is this company in Scottsdale, Arizona I think called ZapCars that will modify a Smart ForTwo for you and import it into the US- you have to pay for the modifications and the actual Smart itself.
  • nobigoilnobigoil Posts: 2
    This site and many other cars sites don't seem to know that a small company ZAP (stock symbol ZP) is delivering smart cars that get amazing gas mileage see www.zapworld.com and all electric cars. Why doesn't this site and others list this manufacturer?
  • dawnjdawnj Posts: 2
    my husband and i have paid a deposit and are on the zap waiting list, but there is no way to register the car in california. we call them every couple of weeks to see what is up.

    HOWEVER i did see one driving around in san francisco with california plates. i asked the driver how he did it, and he said "you don't even want to know." but i did.

    does anyone know how we could do it??
  • jim1462jim1462 Posts: 40
    Did many of you notice a small article in Automotive News (6/5/06) that said "DaimlerChrysler is leaning toward launching its Smart minicar in the United States". Let's send Smart.com our reply to get Smart in the U.S.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,765
    Saw one in my companies parking lot yesterday, interesting looking car. From what I have heard and read it would be in consideration as a second "commuter" car.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • jim1462jim1462 Posts: 40
    We just returned from a trip to the Medeteraining countries.Smart for 2 cars are in abundance.The car appears to be very agile, and they can be parked in the smallest spots. If imported,I will have one(not interested in the over priced Smart brought in by Zap).
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    So you guys really think Smart can make it here? Mercedes really can't afford for this to flop. I've never seen a Smart in person, but they look to be dangerously small for American roads???

    M
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,765
    So you guys really think Smart can make it here?

    I think there is a good chance especially if they can bring the diesels in and they can get the high mileage with our emission standards. With the way gas prices are going a small commuter car that gets a combined 55MPG should do well.

    My understanding is that Zap has a waiting list for the cars so it would be smart (no pun intended) for Damiler/Chrysler to seriously look into bringing it here.

    I've never seen a Smart in person, but they look to be dangerously small for American roads???

    They are small but supposively they are pretty safe. The Mini Cooper is small and it sells well.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • lonestar98lonestar98 Posts: 48
    one potential way to get a zap smart registered in california is a find a 45 state legal zap smart w/ over 7500 miles on it (kind of tough at this point, but i'm sure it could be done). you are then free to register it in cali. that's how folks are getting diesel e-classes here. but i'd wait and see if the second gen fortwo is coming here. it should be a much better car and if imported it will be cheaper, too!
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,765
    Doesn't Smart make a gasoline powered one? According to Zaps web page the cars they are selling uses regular unleaded (of course I suspect that their website is dated).

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • lonestar98lonestar98 Posts: 48
    the fortwo is available as either a diesel or gas model. canada only gets the diesel. here in the states, zap is only bringing in the gasoline model.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,765
    Ok so if Zap is bringing in the gas ones whats stopping them from being registered in California?

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • jim1462jim1462 Posts: 40
    Yes, we all have concerns being confronted with an SUV while in a small car. But $3.00 plus gas will necessitate thrifty autos. For example take a look at the Mitsubishi i in the June 12 issue of Autoweek. Yes I am expecting M/B will import the Smart, and soon.
  • jim1462jim1462 Posts: 40
    DCX will formally announce on 6/27/06 that the Smart for two will be available for sale in U.S. in 2007.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,765
    Is there any more information? Like how many they intend to import or if they will be diesel or gas or pricing?

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • dawnjdawnj Posts: 2
    probably this is dumb, but what does dcx stand for?
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,765
    DCX? why that means

    Dry Copy Xerox

    Damn Close Xavier

    Dark Colored Xterra

    Actually its Damiler Chrysler.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • bhill2bhill2 Posts: 1,365
    DCX will formally announce on 6/27/06 that the Smart for two will be available for sale in U.S. in 2007.

    Does that include California (oh please, oh please, oh please)?

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv, 2001 Jaguar XK cnv, 1985 MB 380SE (the best of the lot)

  • jim1462jim1462 Posts: 40
    Guys this is all I know

    Chrysler to sell Smart car in U.S. in 2007-report
    26 Jun 2006, 05:43 AM ET
    DETROIT, June 26 (Reuters) - DaimlerChrysler AG will announce a plan this week to begin selling its two-seater Smart car in the United States next year, the Detroit News reported on Monday.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,765

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

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