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Honda Civic Coupe / Civic Si 2006+

patpat Posts: 10,421
edited September 30 in Honda
Let's talk about the new Si and Civic Coupe for 2006. In case you haven't seen it, have a look at InsideLine's First Drive: 2006 Honda Civic Si and let's go!!
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  • woohoo!
    anyone have a link to the Dana Patrick??? something commercial with red Civic Si?
  • A big thanks to our moderator, Pat, who listened to our request and set up this forum distinct from the Civic sedan. Does anyone agree that with a spoiler, the new coupe will look a lot like the Si ? One of the biggest San Diego dealers told me the new coupes are flying off the lot. None there at present. I'd love to have an MT LX silver coupe and put some 205/55-16 Falken Azenis Sport tires on it. It would be a lot of fun, and would go around the local mountain twisting roads very well. There's no red for the coupe. Guess they've reserved red for the Si. There's a great two-page photo of a wine red Si on pages 80-81 of the November Road & Track that arrived yesterday.

    :P
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Glad to help and let me just note that ClaireS is your host here and she was involved in setting this up - I'll be going back over to Sedans now. ;)

    Anyway, enjoy!
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    I don't think the Coupe is a "poor man's Si." Budget sporty cars are Neons and Focus ZX3's in stripped configuration. The Coupe is $17,000 from a manufacturer that doesn't rebate or offer employee incentives. I view it more as a practical (read: reliable) alternative to a MINI.

    But we have to wait and see how owners rate the actual handling on the Coupe. I hope to drive one at the Honda event in San Francisco this weekend; they have been hard to find at dealers. I had a 2003 Coupe and was not happy with its handling; it wasn't a dog, but it was no better than any competing econo-box.
  • JBaumgartJBaumgart Posts: 890
    I did a check of the local inventory at 4 dealers here in the Twin Cities, and each had anywhere from 4 to 16 Civics in stock. Without doing the math I would say that about 75% of these were coupes, so at least here it would seem that the sedans are outselling the coupes (unless they are just getting more coupes in than sedans so far).

    Also as far as colors go, I believe Honda's web site shows a red color being available in December - comes with a black interior.
  • the online inventory doesn't mean they physically have the cars...
    I bought a Mazda 3 (which probaly works the same for honda dealers). Their dealer inventory is linked to the Mazda site. the exact Mazda 3 we bought was already shown in the inventory. Well, when we bought it (after "watching" it for weeks in the inventory) it still was on the way from Japan. Took additional 2 weeks to actually pick it up. After we already had the car it was still in the inventory. so, the inventory is more about cars that are coming soon or were there some time ago. doesn't mean the cars on the lot are the ones in the online inventory.
    (why did we go through that huggle?.. we wanted Xenon headlights.... and the one with these actually on the lot was white brrr.... so we had to wait for the one we liked to arrive... :-)
    Well, checkin the local honda dealers... their inventory system is even worse than the mazda-one. somehow they have their own, not linked to Honda site. weird....
  • JBaumgartJBaumgart Posts: 890
    herrkaleu, yes I realize the dealers' web sites probably don't match what's actually on their lots at any given point in time, but I was merely pointing out that at least here there seems to be more coupes than sedans, either now available or soon to arrive. It's just a relative measure of which style has the better supply in this area, shortly after launch. One of the dealers also had 10 or so new '05's listed on their site, and all but one were coupes, except one Si hatch.
  • I love the looks of the Rallye Red (available in December). It looks a lot like the Milano Red that was available on Civics for years.

    I wonder if it will be available on the Si or if they'll only have the Habanero Red they've shown in so many of the publicity photos. That one is too dark and burgandy looking for my taste.

    At least the Rallye Red has black interior, my favorite by far! Will the Si have black interior on all models or a choice of others? I remember when you could only get a black interior on anything with an Si badge on it. Those were the days...
  • I'm happy to say I got wrong info somewhere about red for the coupe. Here it is in Rallye Red, "available in January 2006:" http://automobiles.honda.com/images/2006/civic_coupe/customize/base_car/RE_exnavi_34FRONT.- - - jpg

    The fact that the coupe has 2 inches shorter wheelbase and is 3 inches lower than the sedan makes it appealing to me as a sporty car.

    :P
  • hey guys i have an urgent question. Do the honda dealers allow for dealmaking or are they selling the coupes off the lot with no bargains whatsoever?
  • JBaumgartJBaumgart Posts: 890
    Some people in the previous combined sedan/coupe thread have reported getting some discount, but it seems that in most areas dealers are still sticking to MSRP. The general consensus is that better deals lie ahead for those who can wait a while.
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    I would add - most dealers will make you or break you on your trade-in. They know people talk about cash discounts from the MSRP, so they'd rather sell you a car by over-allowing your trade than by discounting the Civic. It's a lot harder to brag (and prove) that you got $2,000 extra on your trade than to say you got $2,000 off the car.

    So shop around, and don't give up!
  • allfiredup,

    Looks like all your wishes are coming true. The Civic Si will come in Rally Red -- the only colors it does not come in are Atomic Blue Metallic and Royal Blue Pearl. Also, all interiors are black. This is right out of the Coupe brochure, which is in front of me.

    I just put my money down to get first dibs on an Si. Of course, I can get my money back if we can't reach a deal. I expect to pay MSRP, but also will push for a good trade-in price. I expect that will be the only way to get the Si's price down at the beginning. Actually, I think there is much interest in this car and it will likely sell at a premium for a while since I hear they are not planning to make too many. My only concern is that I will get respect from the kids at the pump, but the other executives I work with (I'm 49), with their BMWs and Audi's, will look at me cross-eyed for trading in my 328 and getting a Civic. I know better, I had a '00 Si and loved it to death, until it was stolen. Bought the 328 to try and make it a positive experience. I also love the BMW and it is more polished, but I want something I can wind-up to 7500 rpm again.
  • I own a '00 Si currently and love it as well....I plan to sell it in a year or so and then will be looking at the new Si, in addition to the RSX Type-S (supposedly there is going to be a new model for '07.....I imagine that Acura will add a limited slip and probably more HP to separate it from the Si, so it will be interesting to see what Acura does). I'm no spring chicken also (in relation to the stereotypical Civic crowd)--I'm 33--but love playing with sport compacts, minus the ridiculous body kits and massive wings and neon glow kits, etc...
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    One of the enthusiast websites tested an 06 Coupe on a dyno and said:

    Note that the higher of the two runs was performed in 3rd gear. The lower was in 4th gear. Power and torque at the hubs indicate that this engine is producing more like 150-155 hp and 135-138 lbs-ft of torque at the engine. Also note that the power peaks and torque peaks correspond almost perfectly with the advertised peaks of 4300 rpm for torque and 6300 rpm for horsepower.

    I posted some comments on this excerpt on the sedans board - I won't repeat it here lest I spam, since most of you are probably reading the sedan board already.
  • mldj98mldj98 Posts: 378
    Just curious....did you take a big hit on your 05 Jetta TDI__assuming you traded it in?
    What kind of price did you get on the 06 EX CP 5 speed?
  • I am female and don't care for black interior. I have been informed that it is MUCH hotter in the summer months than tan, grey or others. Does anyone else find the temperature to be a lot warmer than the other colors?

    Also, I haven't seen the black but to me black is a lot more bland in other cars.

    In addition, won't the SI be stick shift only?
  • ezpilzeezpilze Posts: 29
    uh... not me, it's more like FEELS hotter, my mom always complains about my car being hot even though I have a grey interior compared to her black one. Hey, if its hot, its hot, the extra 1 or 2 degrees aint gonna make that much of a difference no?

    Yes, the SI is stick only, much like the acura rsx the joy from driving this car comes from its high end revs, so automatic would not be an option unless if you got one of those dinky auto-manuals, but the SI is relatively easy to drive compared to other cars out there.
  • I think black interior is sort of a "guy" interior.

    In addition, if you park a car with black interior at the mall and come out after 3 hrs. in summer heat even a great AC takes a while to cool it.
  • JBaumgartJBaumgart Posts: 890
    Other than the premium fuel requirement, what extra maintenance does the Si need, as compared to the non-Si Couple?
  • mldj98mldj98 Posts: 378
    Thanks for the reply...
    Hope I didn't touch a nerve (it appears that it did)....
    I was just curious....
  • All this tallk of guy colors and parking at the mall -- I just don't know.

    In any case, I have had black interiors on my last two cars, and while it is hotter, if lhou just enter the car and open the windows and top right away, it gets to normal "hot" quick enough. The only thing that really felt hot was the leather seats in my current car, and the Si does not come in leather.
  • Had a 95 GSR red w black leather interior. It didn't get that hot. Also the maintenance wasn't that bad But I got it done at Honda instead of Acura.

    If you are concerned about the heat get window tint 9non-metallic); helps a lot And on the GSR I put cold air intake and a serendipity result was that by unclustering the engine compartment the car air conditioner cooled significantly faster. However, same engine Hondas/Acuras don't always cool fast.

    I don't think black interior is a guy's color, more of a "sporty" color.

    Honda makes one of the best manual shift cars and the Si should be a winner.

    MidCow
  • sr45sr45 Posts: 144
    Finally arrived, and took it home, and noticed that this Civic Coupe EX drove smoothly on both the highway, and city streets. Head restraints, as others have stated to be bothersome, was not a problem for me, I'm 6-3", 195 lbs. The emergency brakes rubbing into the right knee or leg, also not a problem for me thus far, as others have complained about, but I have only driven it for less than 20 miles thus far. Wait, and see on this one. Feel on the steering wheel was just fine, but others who like a sportier feel, and ride may complain as I have read on another forum, but not for me. I did have to lower the back of the seat just a bit, because of the moonroof and my 6-3 frame, but again, not a problem. I got the Galaxy Gray, and like it. I also like the White or Black Coupe as well, but not available with the Nav at this time. Some say its ugly, but not me. Color is very subjective.

    Wind noise was less than both my older Corolla or the 05 Rav4, and very happy with the quietness of this vehicle. Other's again think its still too loud. Very picky people on these forums. I'm not much into the radio or cd thing at a high sound setting, and many have complained of the 350 watter on this EX model to be less than perfect, but for me, it again is better than my Rav 4 system or Corolla. I have no complaints thus far. I'm now happy that Toyota failed to get the 06 Corolla LE with all the options in the dealership, giving me another look at and later a purchase of the Civic.
  • bigal3bigal3 Posts: 107
    Is your 06 Coupe EX a manual (or auto)? They said manual is a lot buzzier (noisy) than auto (especially on highway) because of different in gear ratio.

    With a lot of customers complaining about the hand brake lever rubbing/poking into the right knee, I hope that Honda will ask their customer (when they take their car to the dealer for service). If they are bothered by the existing lever handle, the dealer should replace (for free) with a new handle/lever which will not rub into the right knee.
  • only1harryonly1harry NYPosts: 1,140
    My dealer has had no LX coupes so far. His first shipment of the LX coupes is 10/31 or Nov. 1st so I 've reserved one.

    The price: $15,995. I 've bought 3 other Hondas from his salesperson (Internet Mgr.) so I was able to talk him down. 2 Civics and 1 CRV for my wife. He first quoted me $16,550 for the LX coupe MT so I sent him a nastygram and reminded him how many cars I 've bought from him and how many people I 've sent to him over the years. He called me up right away after he read my e-mail. I tried getting it for invoice like I 've done with my previous Hondas, but it was very hard to do that when he doesn't have the car in the lot and when he knows it's a "hot" car right now that flies off the lot as soon as it touches the ground. I was prepared to pay a few hundred $ of invoice but had set my goal at under $16K and made that very clear to him because he was still throwing #s at me in the low 16's. We agreed at $15,995 and he reserved a Galaxy Grey for me that will be arriving at the end of the month. I 'll probably talk him down some more because I don't really like the color choices that come with gray interior..
    What suprised me was that his sticker were higher than the official one. He said all the LX coupes with MT coming in have a sticker of $17,070! About $200 more than the Honda.com web site. He said it's advertising costs. I don't buy it. Maybe these LX coupes have leather steering or cargo net or some other option I 'm hoping but those are usually dealer installed options. They don't come from the factory.

    I really wanted the black coupe but I hate that ivory interior. I wonder what made Honda believe that ivory is everyone's favorite color to make it the exclusive interior color choice on half their cars, and more specifically some of their best exterior color Civics (black, royal blue, white - I 'm talking LX here, not EX which some have 2 interior color choices).

    My blue '01 EX coupe has a tan/ivory interior and it is wearing very badly. It turned gray-black after only 2-3yrs and it looks really bad. Noone gets in my car. I 'm the only one. The spot on the driver side door where I rest my arm (elbow) when I drive, is completely blackened. I tried scrubing it with a sponge and soap and I didn't even make a dent in it. The entire dashboard too has turned a greyish color. The tan seats look very dirty too even though noone has sat in them like the passenger seat and rear seats. It's really weird. The interior looks pretty bad. Ivory fares very poorly unless you 're on top of it and cleaning your interior and shampooing your seats all the time. No thanks. I liked the grey interior I had in my '97 Civic DX HB so I 'll stick with that or anything other than light colors like ivory.
    I hate the fact that the limited interior color choices (only 1) are dictating to me which car to get. My wife has a silver Honda so I 'm not getting a silver Civic. I don't like the atomic blue which also comes with gray interior. I 'm not crazy about the Galaxy Gray either but it'll have to do. I hope I get used to it because my favorite colors are black and royal blue (and red too but I have a red Integra) which come with the ivory interior :(
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • blaneblane Posts: 2,017
    Has anyone purchased a 2006 Civic and, since XM Satellite Radio is not a factory install, had their dealer install one? Honda's cute "XM Ready" wording seems to be disguising a major cost.

    Anyone here able to advise me on how much their installation actually cost?

    I'm interested because EX-L and EX NAV Accords come with an XM radio as standard equipment, with no additional labor and material costs. That could bring the bottom line cost of a 2006 Civic EX or EX NAV much closer to that of a 2006 Accord if you want an integrated XM radio.
  • sr45sr45 Posts: 144
    Is your 06 Coupe EX a manual (or auto)?
    ----------------------------------

    5 speed automatic. Very smooth, but the vehicle seems heavy over my Rav 4 when driving. Will get used to it. Hand brake so far not an issue with me
  • Blane,

    The Civic coupe EX NAV comes with XM standard from the factory. :)
  • I am a guy, so perhaps that explains my desire for black interior. When it is an available interior color in a car I'm buying, I always get it. I even waited two months back in '95 for a dealer to get a black on black Legend for me. It's just such a good looking interior color.
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