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Honda Civic Coupe / Civic Si 2006+



  • Be honest, MidCow...instead of comparing performance with S2000 & Type-R, you made the SI sounds like my mom's "all purpose vehicle" :

    Oh yes, I like the Civic SI because it is cheap, get good milage, can carry more people & have a roof....mmmmm.

    Other than that, I have to agree with only1 harry that I will pick the S2000 & Type-R over the Civic SI anytime.

    The S2000 is a performance car & not a mini van....I sense "sour grapes".
  • Yes, it's unfortunate that such gouging occurs. I remember when the S2000 first came out that dealers were selling them--and very quickly, I might add--at close to $40K. Of course, dealers feed off some people whose "gotta-have-it-right-now" mentality ruins it, at least temporarily, for those who are not wanting to pay over MSRP. Eventually, though, the prices will come down, and I'll probably be looking at getting one in early '07.
    Regarding the Si vs. S2000 comparison...obviously, the S2000 is the clear winner in the performance category, and that's because it is in a different market segment. Not every car is designed to be blazingly fast.... though it's interesting how almost every year cars are getting more and more powerful. Is 500 HP for a car enough? The folks at Bugatti surely don't think so. "We just need more power to beat the competition." And so the HP wars continue. I'm sure we'll see close-to 300 HP Accords in the not-too-distant future. The Si is not a true sports car, though it is a truly "sporty" coupe with a good blend of performance and practicality. It just depends on what you're looking for.
  • coolguy5,

    Actually you didn't seem to follow the thread or the sarcasm implied. The S2000 and Civic Si have completley different demographics. Which doesn't mean that the S2000 is 5 times better as was previously stated.

    The Integra GSR Type-R has not been available since 1998 or I might have bought one.

    CHEAP is the wrong word to describe a Honda Civic Si, but it fits in with the rest of your diatribe. The Civic Si is less expensive, but I wouldn't go as far as to say the S2000 and especially the type-R are more luxurious, maybe more sporty. The Type-R doesn't even have air conditioning or cruise control; but at only 2,577 lbs with 195 Hp and a 8,500 RPM redline who cares!

    The 2006 Civic Si will is a very-fun, practical car with pretty decent handling and performance. It is a SPORTS coupe.



    P.S.- Welcome to Edmunds forums, I guess.
  • Be honest, people buy the Civic SI because of the price...CHEAP. If price is not object to them, there are a lot of REAL "sports coupes" on the market which are more fun, with better handling & performance. are using air conditioning & cruise control as your definition of "luxurious" to downgrade the type-R (S2000?) & upgrade your SI? Be reasonable, we are living in the modern world & it is hard to find a car without air conditioning in US (even for the cheapest economy car). Cruise control is not a "luxury", it is getting very common & is standard in many cars.

    To be honest, down inside, Honda SI is just a Honda Civic...& the S2000 is a real "sports car". I do agree with only1harry that S2000 is "5 times the car the SI is" (& possibly more)....& I will choose the S2000 or type-R over the SI anytime.

    But of course, if you have a limited budget & need a cheaper "sports coupe?" which can carry more people & get better gas milage, you will have to choose the SI.
  • lynerdlynerd Posts: 6
    thats steep i'am paying $360/6 months on a ex coupe manual trans, and have at least one ticket. I'am 43 so is the wife. We live near Portland Or.
  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    You 're starting to scare me a little Midnight. First you spelled VTEC wrong (VTECH) and usually a GSR owner knows how to spell that if anything because VTEC is on the little metal plate on the back of his/her car.. Then you said Integra GSRs and Type-Rs have not been been available since '98! Well they were sold up until May 2001! The Integra's replacement, the RSX, was an early '02 model released in the spring of '01.

    I 'll have to correct you again. Only the '97 Type-R didn't have A/C. In '98 A/C was a dealer installed option for the Type-R. My brother's '98 ITR has A/C and in '00 & 01 models (there was no '99 Type-R otherwise I would 've bought one too but ended up with a '99 GSR) A/C was standard. The only reason behind the optional A/C or no A/C was to reduce weight. The Type-R was built for racing with reinforced larger diameter A, B, and C pillars and no sunroof for additional rigidity, plus a 100 other differences/improvements over the GSR which I won't go into. The interior material and seats, etc. in all Integras was and still is far more superior to that of the '06 Civic. Also my '99 GSR came with standard leather as did '00-01 models. The '06 Civic Si or non, is still an econo car with more plastic than I have ever seen in a Civic before and has average cloth seats at best. Also since you mentioned it, the S2000's interior looks and feels luxurious (comes standard with leather seats and has extra leather & wood trimming throughout!) and puts the Civic's interior to shame. The Type-R's special race seats with superb material and stitching and latteral support cost 2 grand $$ to buy new. I believe that's what Coolguy5 meant by luxurious, that plus the interior material of any Acura is much better than that of any Civic. Sorry I think we 've beaten this to death.
    Back to the Civic :) I 'm still waiting for my dealer to get a black coupe 5sp. in.
  • Only1harry,

    Thanks for the reply. Put down only VTEC because of "temple of VTEC", yes sgould have been VTECH. I agree paying over MSRP is not a good deal and a S2000 would be better. I had a 95 GSR with exhaust system, tires, AEM and it ran very well! The new Si meets my needs for a fun commuter car! I seriously considered a new S2000 but didn't want to spend the extra 10k$ Thanks again for your comments. Tried to look up specs and dates on last Type R, but consider the source Edmunds is flawed. I almost bought a white one in 1999; at the time had some extra money and bought a BMW M3.


  • You sounds quite mixed up......

    If you are refering to Honda, only1harry is should be VTEC (not VTECH). VTECH that you mentioned is the brand name of a CHEAP CORDLESS PHONE (in HongKong / China).

    Although SI may be considered as a good commuter car, if you want to talk about fun & brag about performance, you will need to go for a S2000 (i.e. if you can spare that extra $10K).

    There were no BMW M3 between year 1999 to 2002. If you almost bought a Type-R in 1999, but changed your mind to buy a BMW later on, it can not be a M3 (unless it is a used older model second hand car).
  • Only1Harry and Coolguy5,

    Last explanation,

    Fast typing it was a typo with the H , should have been VTEC.

    Don't really car whether a Si makes a performance statement to anyone else or not. It is what I want for a fun reliable commuter car that I will probably put 20K miles per year on.

    Concerning the M3, It was a new 1998 (E36) Apline White 1998 sedan that I bought in December of 1998. At the time the 1999 Acura Integra Type R's were out and the Acura dealer had a white one available.

    Concerning whether I could afford the extra $10K or not. My finances are none of your concern, but I bet if we compared I would be substantally higher than you on the assets scale.

    Anyway, I have a 2006 Civic Si Coupe on order and that is what this discussion is about; it is not a comparison. If you want to further discuss comparions between a 2006 Honda Civic Si and a Honda S2000 or a Acutra Integra Type RI suggest you start a separate thread!

    Have a goodday,

  • My tail like lens is cracked and I want to replace it. Does anyone know how to remove the lens so I can install the new one?
  • I just took delivery on my Si yesterday. Just wanted to know if others actually have one or just chatting. For those who really have one,let's have some feedback. I paid 500 under MSRP. I am going on an extended ride today. The Roads were a little icy yesterday. The Michelin stock tires are on it. Any suggestions for improvement here? Thanks.Kazoo
  • Kalamazoo,

    Congratulations on the Si!. I don't have mine yet, put money down and ordered on December 17, 2005 Rallye Red with NAV, summer tires and fog lights at a little under MSRP.

    Double Sixes,

  • I can't believe you guys are debating which of you has more money- how juvenile!! Are you teenagers?
    I'm really enjoying my 2006 white Civic coupe. But I admit I am still trying to get used to the much more limited field of vision than I used to have on my Corolla sedan... Anyone else having issues with this? I raised my seat as much as I could (without my head touching the ceiling!).
  • earthearth Posts: 76
    My view is OK in the front, but have to be extra careful when making lane changes with that over sized rear pillar. Not happy with the seat belt either. Have to reach further back to get it. Guess I am still used to the corolla and Rav4. But, the ride is smooth and the mpg is OK. Wish it was better than 25 mpg in city only driving with the automatice, nav system
  • Just placed an order for a black si with navi. Ordered from an Arizona dealer for $21,790, $500 under msrp. I'll also get free tint, mud guards, wheel locks. Car is supposed to arrive in March. I live in Washington State, where most dealers are asking $2,000 over msrp. Might as well fly down in March, watch some spring training baseball, pick up my car and drive home. I drove a new non navi si 2 weeks ago at the local dealer. It's a great car, alot like my 2002 RSX type s. (seemed a bit slower, less rough) looking foward to the xm radio & navigation.
  • I would look closer at the other civic SI's that's something that I noticed too but that part is painted for all the SI's I ordered the Habanero Red by accident, I was told that the color was brighter than Rally red. This is Wrong, I hope that they can change it or something because I sure don't feel like painting a new car a whole diffrent color and I dont have the cheese for that. The car hasn't even been built yet and I'm sure that it will only take a phone call or two.....I'm hope
  • chuckd2chuckd2 Posts: 12
    I've been driving mine for just under 2 weeks. It's fast and handles great. I love all the features...moon roof, power everything..almost., great sound system and so much more. I do agree with the rear blind spots and how far back the seat belt holder is. From 7 to 8 grand this engine sings a nice song!! How many miles do you guys wait before "performance" testing? I probably started a little early...
    I'm getting 30mpg with mostly highway driving. I'm happy with that.
    This car was sitting on the dealers showroom floor. I walked in and bought it, and drove it home the same day. That was Jan 2. Other dealers told me it wouldn't be available until mid January. I paid 20,540. They had super fancy wheels on it that would have cost an extra 2500 but I had them put the nice stock ones back on...2500 is just a bit to much for wheels for me.
  • I drove my first extended drive in my new 06 Si yesterday. The field of vision is horrible. I have owned many coupes and sports cars, and this one will take some adjustment. I am short and raising the seat makes the field of vision worse. Also, the glare from the dashboard runs half way up the windshield which I have never experienced, drives me crazy. Maybe a black dashcover will work. I have had over 30 cars in the past 10 years and this is really unlike any other. BUT,, the car is fun,fun,fun.
  • My husband is monitoring my driving to break the car in for 600 miles as per the manual, but I pat the dash every drive and tell Chili Pepper that she soon will sing!
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