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Honda Civic Coupe / Civic Si 2006+

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  • hey, did you use 10w30 or 5w30 amsoil in your car? hows it work at 6-8,000 rpms? thanks you
  • about those turbos for the Si, id wait a little bit longer to put one in, im sure more will come out. But, if you go to youtube and type 2007 civic si turbo, or something along those lines, many people have done it. Some good races on it too. Si racing a m3 on the street for a loong time, pretty much neck and neck everytime, sometimes Si barely comes out in front, sometimes m3 barely comes out in front. Quite cool. :D
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    there should be plenty of turbo kits for the new si, since the k20 has been around for awhile, even if its tuned slightly different for the 06+ si's.

    They may need some re-working to fit the engine bay though!
  • error438error438 Posts: 17
    I have a normal 140 HP civic with a MT. Sometimes I miss a gear while I'm gunning it so it's just in neutral.(I'm still learning) Will it damage the engine to be flooring it in neutral ar does the rev limiter save me?
    Also I was wondering if anyone would suggest summer tires over the stock all season M+S tires.
  • kork13kork13 Posts: 90
    error, the rev limiter is there for that exact reason. It shouldn't let you take the revs to the level that you'll actually do any real damage to your engine. At the same time, though it's there to keep you from accidentally causing damage, it's best not to tempt fate... personally, i'd recommend getting a bit more confident on the MT before really trying to floor it from a stop. However, in short response to your question, No, you should be okay. Just don't do it too often.

    As for the tires, it depends on how you drive, and where you're at. It sounds like you drive for some performance, so the summer tires would give you a bit more bite in your accelerations. Where do you live? If it's somewhere that you can reasonably expect to get snow/ice (and have it stick around for at least a couple days), it might be good to have the all-seasons. If that's not much of a factor for you, then there's no real issue with getting the summer tires. Another option, if you get the summers and you do have a snowy winter, you can get a set of all-season or winter tires in addition to the summer tires, then just swap them out when the weather turns white. I live on the Rampart Range in Colorado, so I sided for just getting the all-season tires. I still get really nice performance out of them in my Si. It's really just a balance of what you think is reasonable and what you want.
  • bf04bf04 Posts: 6
    I have had my SI for about week with 500 miles on it. It has probably been rev up to 8k 2-3 times, due to dealer showing off, wife..etc. I am trying to baby it little now till I hit 1200-1500 for full breakin. Do you think their could be any damage or anything due to rev it high so eariler? So far it drives awsome.

    I do not live near a honda dealership so I will be going to Jiffy lube for oil changes. I am thinking of going to synth but never used it before. I plan on keeping the car a long time. So is the synth that jiffy lube uses good and anything I should know about switching oil?

    Thx
  • kork13kork13 Posts: 90
    I don't think the high revs should be an issue for you. It's only 2-3 times, and probably only for just a few seconds, so it's not going to greatly impact your break in.

    For oil, I haven't quite come up to my first change yet, but I'm planning on switching to a synthetic oil. I'll prolly talk to my a mechanic first before actually doing it to make sure it would actually be better, though.
  • bruinftbruinft Posts: 8
    I'm new here, but I'm hoping that someone can answer my question. I'm virtually dead set on getting a Civic SI. But there is one question that I need to have answered before I can make the purchase and it won't get answered by a test drive. How comfortable is the driver's seat in the Civic SI during long drives, like an 90 minutes or more? What about during extended bouts of bumper to bumper traffic (I live in LA)?

    Also, on a side note, I'm going to get the Civic as soon as I learn how to drive manual. My friend offered to teach me how and he suggested renting a manual transmission car. Anyone know where I can rent a MT car in LA? All of the major car rental companies seem to only rent automatics.

    Thanks
  • kork13kork13 Posts: 90
    bruin, I guarantee you that the seats are GREAT. I made a 17 hour drive in my Si, and the seats were VERY comfortable, and the same goes in normal traffic. They're really supportive, and nicely firm. As an added bonus, they really hold you in place when you're playing and doing hard cornering.

    I'm pretty sure you won't be able to find a rental agency that rents out MT's unless you go to Europe. Just find a friend who doesn't mind you learning in his/her car, because you won't be able to find a rental. They don't carry MT's for that reason specifically, so that people new to MT's don't drop the transmission in the rental cars.
  • bruinftbruinft Posts: 8
    Thanks for the input. Since I spend a lot of time in cars, it's important to get an idea of how comfortable the interior is.

    My problem is that I only have 1 friend that's local that knows how to drive manual. Everyone else that drives manual that I know lives pretty far from me. I've read online that people that don't know how to drive manual have learned how to drive on their new car without causing a lot of excess wear and tear. I might have to go that same route.
  • kork13kork13 Posts: 90
    Yea, it's not a problem if you learn the stick on a new car. Just take it slow and you'll be fine. There are alot of people who have been pretty violent learning MT, and the car in nearly all cases will be just fine.
  • the SEATS ARE THE BEST in the SI. Since the car has a wider body, they were able to make the seats wider too. They arent some cheap bucket seats, they have full support, its GREAT for long drives. its easy to drive in bumper to bumper traffic. IT just can be quite frustrating, My baby wants to eat up road and fly through the curves. When i switched from my Jetta GL to the Si, i got much more impatient getting stuck in traffic. So ive had to use alot more self control, hehe. Now i just plan around traffic so i dont have to deal with it.

    About switching to full synthetic oil. DO it after you break the car in. MAKE SURE THEY USE 5W 30!! LOTS of the dealerships have an ERROR in there technician manuals that honda sent them! it says to use 5W 20! Once i showed the manager at my dealership the user manual and the engine oil cap. He was like "o [non-permissible content removed]..." then showed me all there service manuals. It was hondas fault for sending tech manuals that say to use the wrong oil. Im just suprised no one else has caught this earlier. I also found out that almost all the dealerships in the area have been using the wrong oil. SO make sure you check with your dealership! If it doesnt get too cold around there, I suggest using 10w 30 for the best protection and i personally like Mobile 1.
  • error438error438 Posts: 17
    I have an '07 civic lx and just bought a new shift knob. i am having problems getting it on. i can unscrew the knob, but the fake leather part under it(boot?sleeve?)just dangles. can anyone help with it. its a pilot motorsports knob. thanks
  • If you live in LA I advise NOT getting the SI. Why? Because you will be constantly shifting in bumper to bumper traffic. I recently moved from Cleveland to the Metro DC area, and I hit massive traffic to and from work. The constant shifting can get quite old. And, do to the fact that you don't even know how to shift? I think your making a mistake!
  • franceyfrancey Posts: 21
    RE the oil.
    My manual recommends for the Civic Si model 5W-30.
    I have a Civic EX and the manual recommends 5W-20.
    I checked my first oil bill and they have used 5W-20, as required.
    That gave me a start when I read of a possible error in oil viscosity.

    I have to laugh.... When I went in for my first oil change, I had a coupon from Honda giving a free first oil change and presented it to them. Turns out it was a 'come-on' to get you to go to Honda for the change. The coupon was a 'play on words' and wasn't worth the paper it was written on. I was disappointed that Honda would do something so under-handed. I guess business is business in these days and times.

    Regardless, I do think my EX is a marvelous car. The seating is so comfortable, the car handles beautifully and the mileage in-town driving is 32-33, and distance driving 36.

    How many drivers would like to get an extra 'free' 50 miles per gas fill up, during in-town driving? I have an automatic transmission. I was alerted to this savings when stopped and noticed that when you take your foot off the brake the car continues forward at about 9 mph. This occurs in every car I've driven, so it's not unusual. I figured that was a waste of gas to be sitting with my foot on the brake while the car is still trying to go forward so I shifted into neutral and the car's forward momentum stopped. Putting 2+2 together, and shifting into neutral when the gas pedal wasn't needed, I was astonished to discover that I got 50 extra miles per fill-up as a bonus for doing that.

    Whenever you take your foot off the gas pedal, shift into neutral. You'd be surprised how many times this occurs and how many long hills there are that you can coast down rather than drive down. I drive and coast neutral at whatever the highway speed signs are, so doing this doesn't disturb traffic speed. As far as I can tell, it doesn't affect the drivability or engine in any way. Everything handles the same. However, if you are not comfortable doing this, don't do it. I live in east Tennessee where the roads are gently
    rising and falling hills in general, and I drive in neutral for about the same amount of time I drive in drive.

    It also taught me to view way ahead and when other's brakelights go on, I shift into neutral and coast to the red light or
    whatever else is making them brake and always shift into neutral while stopped and waiting for traffic to move. I tested this on a full tank of gas and I found that I got an extra 50 miles for free, just for the extra effort of using neutral. Now it's gotten
    to be a habit, to shift neutral when I take my foot off the gas pedal.

    A lot of people could care less about how much gas they burn, so this is directed to
    folks like me, who just hate to see the oil companies profiting billions because us
    citizens just won't drive conservatively. Try it, you may like it. -smile- Bye. Francey
  • kork13kork13 Posts: 90
    Regarding francey's gas-saving solution, I have always done the same in any manual car I drive (I currently have an '07 Si). It's almost like a game for me, to see how far I can coast on a slight downhill and still keep up the same speed. I agree, shifting into neutral is a GREAT way to save some gas, because if you're in gear, your engine is still spinning at 3k-ish rpms. In neutral, it drops below 1k.
  • kork13kork13 Posts: 90
    Sorry, I meant to include this in my last post here... Concerning doing this with an automatic (shifing in/out of neutral alot to save some fuel), does anyone know if doing hat would slowly cause undue wear of the tranny, or its fluids? I MT's are designed to be shifted in/out of gear all the time, but AT's seem specifically built to stay in drive. Anyone with some mechanical know-how?
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    Actually, shifting manually won't hurt an automatic half as much as a typical manual. But you will wear out your brakes faster, so that has to be factored in versus the 2 gallons a week you are saving. (say 100 gallons in a year and replacing your brake pads every year, and rotors every 3-4) Not quite as much of a savings as you'd think.

    But it is a good tactic if you are on a long trip or trying to eek out a few MPG to make it to a station.
  • Hi,

    I am in the process of buying a new 2007 Honda Civic LX Coupe W/Automatic Transmission in Indianapolis, IN area.

    Could you please suggest me what should be the best price for this model. So far I have got the quotation for $17,150+Tax & Title.

    If any one in this or surrounding area has got a better deal then please let me know the price and dealer details.

    Thanks
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    You found the best place for help with this when you posted here: samautobuy, "Honda Civic: Prices Paid & Buying Experience" #5959, 24 Aug 2007 11:59 pm. Let's continue at that link. Good luck!
  • bruinftbruinft Posts: 8
    I was just on the Honda site and saw that the 2007 Civic Si's are supposed to have tinted windows as a standard feature. Is it supposed to be noticeably tinted or is the tint so light it not really noticeable? I just want to be sure before I call the dealer because my windows don't really seem to be tinted at all.

    Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,849
    It's not tinted in the sense that most people think of these days..

    But, it is tinted.. I think every model car has glass that has a tint of some degree... The last car that I had with true clear glass was in 1977.

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  • Thanks for the info. That's pretty much what I thought, although I was kind of hoping that a darker tint would be standard. Normally, I wouldn't care since I usually wear sunglasses, but with a black interior of the SI, it's so hot after a day of being parked in the sun.
  • Does anyone know about a turbo/supercharger kit for an '06-'07 Honda Civic LX coupe (non-Si)?
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    if you go online, to 8thgencivic.com, there are some protoypes in the works...

    however;

    i'm very against this, and would love to hear why you would want to do this. the money it would actually cost to accomplish this would be better spent just buying an si...because at least it is already equipped with the OTHER performance mods you need, like a better equipped suspension, better seats, and most importantly, an engine that was almost made for tuning!

    the r18 is a fantastic engine: sounds good, makes good power for its size, and gets outstanding fuel economy.

    Why would you want to ruin that? Granted many have souped up the d-series engines in civics of yore, but those have a bit of potential, simply because they have been around forever. Plus, most of the reason why they get good fuel economy is because they are small and sit in a light chassis: the new civic, while not heavy, is no lightweight, and its engine has been engineered to haul it around AND deliver outstanding economy.

    again, why ruin a good thing? :confuse:
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,938
    ...
    again, why ruin a good thing?


    To make it better? :confuse:
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    except that it wont!

    did you read my response at all?

    the r18, while it probably would be reliable even with a turbo as most honda engines are, was NOT made for this type of application; thats why cars like the si exist.

    If he had these plans from the get go, an si should have been his first consideration, especially since it trumps the regular civc about 2 seconds on its zero to sixty time, which is about where a small turbo would put his civic.

    and if he was resloved to turbo anyway, the si is a fantastic platform, remember, his civic will need all kinds of suspension work done to compensate for the extra power, again another expense that makes it not worth it.

    so in a few paragraphs, no, its not 'better' its unnecessary. thats what the si is for. if it was free, ok. but unfortunately, its going to cost a lot, totally negating any 'benefits' of a project like this.

    It also makes you wonder if honda's marketing is working, because people are actually sitting there thinking about all the stuff they can do with their civics, instead of just having bought an si. Its not more cost efficient, and the si is not expensive! what gives? :confuse:
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,938
    The Si costs a good clip more than an LX. And a lot of people don't even bother with suspension, chassis, brake upgrades when throwing on power adders. But even if he did, he might be able to get a turbo system and some springs and still come out a little less than the cost of an Si, especially if he's talking about a coupe. The Si coupe costs right next to seven thousand dollars more than a base coupe.
  • k5ldbk5ldb Posts: 50
    The Si coupe costs right next to seven thousand dollars more than a base coupe.

    Not sure where you are shopping but the MSRP is $16,760 LX manual and $21,090 Si manual for a difference of $4330 not almost $7k. As already stated, the Si is going to do far better than an LX as a builder platform, especially at this price difference.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    And a lot of people don't even bother with suspension, chassis, brake upgrades when throwing on power adders.

    These people are known as ricers, and shouldn't be allowed to touch any car with intentions to modify it with a ten foot pole.

    Sorry for assuming he was going to 'tune' his car the RIGHT way. I guess i should have known he wouldn't after reading that he was considering turboing an lx civic to begin with! :sick:

    But even if he did, he might be able to get a turbo system and some springs and still come out a little less than the cost of an Si, especially if he's talking about a coupe. The Si coupe costs right next to seven thousand dollars more than a base coupe.

    even a base coupe ( a dx) costs 15k. So at the very most, you are talking about a 6k difference. But he has an lx, so the difference is more like 4500.

    Slapping some springs isn't going to do much with stock wheels and tires except make his handling WORSE. and when you turbo a car, you MUST prepare the suspension and chassis (coilovers, or springs, struts, strut tower bars etc) first, or youll be ready for disaster.

    Do you realize how much turbo kits are? they are not cheap, especially for newer cars. And if there are any turbo kits for the r18, a lame company probably attempted it and again, we have a recepie for unreliability.

    And when all is said and done, even after the turbo, he'll have a car thats slightly quicker than the si, and certainly not worth the cost it took to do it. ON top of that, it wont hold a candle to the si's handling.
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