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2008 Dodge Grand Caravan

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  • samnoesamnoe Posts: 731
    Of course the automatic is the best and easiest. I also use it many times. But not always. Especially if I am not at the van and other family members are opening the liftgate, it's get uncomfortable.

    And not always i have the time and patience to wait the extra 5-6 seconds it takes for the power to beep 4 times and close. I just open/close it myself quickly, and I'm ready to go.

    So again, for manual opening, the Freestar is the best design IMO.
  • samnoesamnoe Posts: 731
    With so many recent bad weather, snow and ice, I really miss the windshield wiper de-icer. It's such a useful feature, And I am so angry that they eliminated it from the current models. Hopefully it's going to be returned on the 2008's.
  • aaron_taaron_t Posts: 301
    The Touring gets the 6-speed with the 3.8L and does not have leather. Touring Package 1 does not have leather seats.

    The Dodge counterpart has the the SXT trim level with Package 3 or 4 and the 4.0L/6-speed.
  • dennisctcdennisctc Posts: 1,168
    Has anyone seen or read what the tow rating is for the 4.0 w/6 spd??? My 2005 3.8 w/4 spd was rated at 3800# with tow package. I'm hoping for 4500#. I have the "Cook book" from the Detroit Autoshow (press days) and there's no tow info listed there. Thanks
  • albookalbook Posts: 1,282
    What they (and most consumers) care about is a good ride and exciting handling,
    Consumer Reports doesn't care about exciting ride. And if ride is too sporty, they will complain. THing is, they aren't the real experts. Car and Driver and Motor TRend is. And sometimes, they are a little biased in not giving some Domestic models a chance.
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    Cool but NOT wanted by many of us.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    If you don't want it, then either don't turn it on or don't buy a DCX minivan, fairly simple solutions....

    -mike
  • dave210dave210 Posts: 238
    "Cool but NOT wanted by many of us."

    I'm sure Chrysler's market research has shown that it is a desirable option. Rear seat DVD players, navigation systems, power trunks, doors, etc. are becoming more and more normal in these minivan segments.

    Being an empty-nester that doesn't fit the gizmo-loving "young family" demographic, it's no surprise you may not want this option, but by no means does it mean "many of us" don't.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Being an empty nester would probably put you out of and off the radar of any marketing team for a minivan! ha ha

    -mike
  • samnoesamnoe Posts: 731
    "...I'm sure Chrysler's market research has shown that it is a desirable option..."

    I am also sure, that Chrysler's market research has shown that people need an elegant, inviting interior with superior fit & finish. My own market research has shown the same thing, as well. And so "your" market research. If so, then why do I read all over about the bad interior designs of recent Chrysler / Dodge offerings? Why does the upcoming 2008 model minivans interior look so not-promising?

    Seems that Chrysler is using the same interior designer, even after all the critics. Somehow, they love him and can't part with him. What's up with that stupid-placed shifter; complicated temperature controls that sit almost as low as your feet; 2-nd row and rear seat which is as uncomfortable as the current vans, even though they increased the well behind the rear seat; and many more details.

    Offering the new 4.0L engine and 6-speed auto in the top of the line LIMITED only, is one of the biggest mistakes they can do. That's not competitive at all. All other minivans offer a minimum of refined, 240 hp engines and at least a 5-speed. But Chrysler, who still wants to be the leader, will offer it only on the top shelf minivan. All other gets sub 200 hp and 4-speed trannys. Yes, in 2008.

    I don't see Chrysler should do a lot of market research. I own already their products for many years, and so is our business and other friends and relatives, and NEVER have we been contacted by Chrysler, whether by mail, phone or e-mail, to ask us how satisfied we are, and what they can do in order to improve products so we stay a Chrysler customer in the future.
  • dave210dave210 Posts: 238
    Who knows why their interiors are still not up to snuff? Because they're Chrysler and they like being known for crappy interiors year after year?

    Personally, having owned three Chrysler's in the past, I always felt the interiors were designed great, the quality just wasn't always there.

    While I'm done with Chrysler and have been since 2003, I'm still surprised at the things they think of to put in these vans (to their credit).

    As for the market research comment, that was purely hypothetical. I was just making a point that while one person may think a power trunk, automatic climate control, rear seat dvd players, etc. are "silly and a waste of money," that doesn't necesarily mean the majority of the minivan buying public would also agree.

    ...otherwise these types of car options in this segement would have stopped advancing/getting copied by other makes years ago!
  • aaron_taaron_t Posts: 301
    The hightest sales volume mid trim levels will have the 3.8L with 240ft-lb of torque and a 6-speed automatic.
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    NOT so. The highest sales volume are the GC SE and T&C LX to fleet and rental. They will still have the 3.3L with 170 HP / 200 lb ft torque and 4 speed AT. :blush:
  • aaron_taaron_t Posts: 301
    Fleet sales are about 25% of DCX minivan sales and I'd say less than half of those are the GC SE and T&C LX models. Most are either SWB or DGC SXT based on airport rental lots. Also based on local dealer inventories, the DGC SXT and T&C Touring models are by far the most stocked. I don't have the exact sales numbers, but I still think more mid trim level minivans are sold/driven than low end.
  • dennisctcdennisctc Posts: 1,168
    Living in Detroit, actually Auburn Hills, right next to Chrysler, I'm seeing a lot of 08 minivans running around with no disguises. The Town and Country looks fantastic...very classy, and the interior looks great. A huge step up. Now if they really stick to their just released prices, you'll be seeing Hondas and Toyotas being discounted. I'm still leaning towards a new Buick Enclave - it'll tow more, and is extremely quiet!!
  • samnoesamnoe Posts: 731
    I agree that it's better looking inside and out, and really wait to see one in person, and read reviews in magazines, but I have a feeling it's gonna end up the same way the Sebring ended...

    The old-tech low hp engines which is the lowest in class, years behind the competition, and the newer more powerful is available on the Limited edition only (I hope it's will be an option on the Touring), the weird shifter which is somewhere between the column and IP, and interior design, will give it some bad ratings...
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