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BMW 3-series vs Lexus IS

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  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    Maybe your IS350 is superior to "all the BMW's," but I doubt it. More likely, your wife is the most talented driver south of the Mason-Dixon Line...
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "... so much for the BMW's great handling capabilities." :P

    Then again, I blew away an IS350 on a double wide freeway ramp this weekend, and I was driving my wife's minivan.

    ...so much for the vaunted handling capabilities of the Lexus IS twins. :P

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    Shipo, maybe the one that you blew away is an IS250, which ain't hard to do. :P
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "Shipo, maybe the one that you blew away is an IS250, which ain't hard to do."

    True I'm turning 50 next week and haven't started wearing corrective lenses yet, but my eyesight ain't that bad (I'm one of those types that needs longer arms to read the paper but have no problems reading road signs a mile away).

    As you probably surmised, my point was that a 1966 VW Beetle (the most diabolical handling car I've ever driven) will blow away a Ferrari in a turn given enough difference in the drivers.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    Yeah...

    A 1966 VW Beetle could also blow away a Lambo if that Lambo driver was just out for a nice Sunday cruise.
  • jimbresjimbres Posts: 2,025
    A '66 VW Beetle? I wrecked one of those on Route 17 (upstate NY) near the Rock Hill exit in September, 1968. Rolled it over 2 1/2 times. Car was totaled, but I walked away. Not a scratch on me, but I was constipated for the next week.

    A predictable occurrence, given the combination of a fundamentally unstable vehicle & a young, stupid driver.

    Apologies for the digression...
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "A predictable occurrence, given the combination of a fundamentally unstable vehicle..."

    Yup, I'm thinking that "diabolical" may not have been a strong enough adjective to describe how that car behaved on roads that were straight as an arrow as well as those that were Route 17ish (or worse). BTW, I leased my two BMWs from dealerships on Route 17 (New Jersey), and drove them quite often on 17a west of Sloatsburg. Lots of fun!

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,369
    Happy B'Day in advance Shipo!

    I've got you by 2 years and my arms are still long enough to read but approaching the extent of focus, so to speak.

    I think spiritinthesky had both IS350 and 335 in his hands on a recent test at an old airport runway and can probably provide the best feedback on the better performing car (as opposed to the official editor expert reviews). His family owns both and is selling one for a people mover. Guess which one is being sold?

    Let's assume the Asians are getting better but not there yet in the best handling category. That's an opinion I'm sure will be a quite heated debate.

    Regards,
    OW
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Thanks. ;-)

    Yeah, I'm still within focus most of the time for most things, however, I needed to send my RAZR in for service last week and I needed to read the IMEM (or some such) number off the label behind the battery. Uh-huh, not happening, time to get the cheaters out. ;-)

    Mrs. Shipo on the other hand lost the ability to read children's books (big type and all) when she was 41, and it drives her nuts that I'm still not wearing glasses (yet of course). If for no other reason than the fact that she's irked by my eyesight, I'll hold off on spectacles for as long as possible. ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,630
    I'm developing a system for those of us driving enthusiasts of a certain age---prescription windshields!.

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  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,369
    How the heck can I hold the windshield the the proper distance?? ;)

    Oh, heck, I get it...just adjust the seat, silly me!

    Regards,
    OW
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,630
    yes we'll have Lexus develop radar-focus for the power seats----great idea, LOL!

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  • I own 2006 IS-250 AWD and I regret buying it because its tight interior space. Specially rear seat is absolutely useless for adults. Buy it only if you dont expect it accommodate average size 4 adults. I know my next would be a BMW 3-series.
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,369
    I wouldn't be surprised if future variants of the IS get bigger. That seems to be a major issue with some owners.

    I owned Lincoln LS and the 3-series is "cozy" in comparison but livable for 4 on most drives. It's far from a long-trip cruiser for 4.

    I would buy another 3 just for the driving dynamics.

    Regards,
    OW
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    Didn't you test drive the car? Why did you buy it in the first place if the big issue is rear seat space? I can understand it's the driving dynamics that you don't like after own it a while but now almost 2 years and you complain about rear seat space? Sorry I just don't get it because it isn't making any sense.

    Also, why are you posting the same post at different IS boards? Even the IS-F one? What does it have to do with the IS-F? :confuse:
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Maybe it shrank more after he washed it? ;)
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    Oh well then he better get the 5-series instead because after a wash it'll become 3-series size.

    ;)
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,369
    Listen, how do you think they got the 1-Series? Gave the 3'er a shower and put it on a low-fat diet!

    Regards,
    OW
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    Oh darn, now it all makes perfect sense...
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,665
    Lets not get into his shrinkage :shades:
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,369
    Oh boy!

    image

    Regards,
    OW
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Ya got the wrong discussion, that's a photo of the new CTS. ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    LOL, that's brutal.
  • caminacamina Posts: 31
    I looking to buy a new luxury sports sedan really soon. I have been driving a 1988 BMW 325. I want something sexy but I am concerned about gas mileage and reliability. Power is not one of my priorities although I prefer to stay with a 6 cylinder. My top 2 choices are an IS250 and BMW 330. I also like the C300 and CTS but they are not good on gas. The TSX is a 4 cylinder but doesn't offer that much better gas mileage than the IS250 or 330. The IS250 gets 21/29 and the 3 series gets 19/28 for automatic. So, right from the start the IS250 has a slight edge. I live in Boston and wondering if there is a major difference between the 2 in terms of winter driving. I don't want the AWD on either so I can get better gas mileage. Please give me your unbiased opinions on each or suggest another car altogether.
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    1. BMW doesn't make 330i anymore

    2. IS250 is more comparable to the 328i in terms of performance and pricing
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Uhhh, pricing maybe (depending upon how they're configured), however, in the case of manual transmission versions of these cars, the 328i will mop the floor with the IS250. I know the stats look kind of close on paper, but after you drive them it will be quite obvious that the IS250 is considerably slower with regards to its acceleration, and its numb handling just makes it seem all that much slower.

    That said, if the OP is looking for a cushy boulevard cruiser, then the IS250 is probably the perfect choice.

    Best Regard,
    Shipo
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,246
    back seat thing. This is where the IS really takes it in the shorts, both for the lack of room & the lack of fold-down seats.

    The BMW 3 (& TSX, by the way) will carry two adults comfortably in the back seat and can be had with fold-down seats, which add immensely to the practical value of the vehicle (IMHO, of course).
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,665
    The back seat isn't as bad as I initially thought.

    I recently helped a co-worker purchase a new car and her top choice ended up being a loaded IS250. The 3 series was too expensive when optioned like the IS, the CTS was too big (and the test car gave a bad impression with a vibrating steering wheel). The IS NAV is also much better than the CTS

    She didn't care about the power of the IS350 and wanted the NAV instead of the extra power (odd concept for me).

    I can squeeze into the back of an IS (6'3")...but others with shorter legs will find that the back of the front seats have indentions that give additional (much needed) space.

    We recently took her car for lunch and 4 of us fit fine (I don't see the middle seat being used by anything other than a child).

    Not my top choice...but a real nice car that she's trilled to own.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    What's sexier than an 88 325? :blush:

    In your case, I vote for the TSX.

    The TSX and IS250 are pretty much a toss-up on fuel economy and engine output. The biggest difference between them is that the TSX is more spacious and is actually fun to drive. The TSX also has a track record of outstanding resale value.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,246
    "The TSX also has a track record of outstanding resale value."

    Thank you, thank you sir. I'll take whatever postive reinforcement I can get these days.

    Seriously, with my 5-month old TSX I can certainly tell that it's not RWD, but otherwise (how was the play, otherwise, Mrs. Lincoln?) it's been delightful. My bicycle fits in the trunk & everything else works too, every time.

    Oh, and it gets 28 mpg in mixed driving to work and back.
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