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2008 Ford Super Duty

johnpsjohnps Posts: 2
Will the '07 Super Duty have completely redesigned sheetmetal or will it be just in front and back?
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  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,914
    You're probably not getting responses because no one knows the answer. All of the info we've got on the 2007 Ford F250/F350 is listed in our article.

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  • I have a '99 F250 V-10 and have been very happy with it. Mileage is ok and it has given no problems. It's about time to think of a new one. Any chance Ford is thinking about a V-10/8? I.e. 2 cylinders shut off when not needed. I don't tow every day and this would be a great way to get a little better gas mileage and maybe compete with diesel on a cost per mile basis. Sounds easy to do. Good idea or bad?
  • I've read that the 2007 will probably use a new 6.4L diesel engine. Will this again be produced by International, or after the 6.0 Powerstroke disaster will Ford be finding a new supplier?
  • Bewhite: From what I've read and heard the 07 superduty will not have the new 6.4L twin turbo engine in it. This is because Ford is taking extra time fine tuning the enigine. Yes, it will still be made by International/NaviStar. The specs I've seen rate the engine between 450-500 HP. However, the final engine will be turned down a bit to 400-450 HP. Can't recall the torque foot LBS at this time. It will be available in the 08 superduty being released in the fall of 07. My take on this is don't rush into this new truck. Let the bugs get worked out on this new engine for about a year. Yeah...I got my eye on it as well. It would pull my 12000lb. fifth wheel camper nicely. For now, however, I'll have to stick with my 05 superduty w/ 6.0 diesel enigine.
  • akenatenakenaten Posts: 122
    Is the 6.0 really that bad? I test drove an F-250 today and while the engine is really noisy compared to the Duramax is the Powerstroke a bad motor?
  • bewhite25bewhite25 Posts: 35
    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=109864#2

    Not sure what I think of the headlights, but the rest of the truck looks good. As great as the specs on the new 6.4L Powerstroke look, supposedly a new Duramax is on the way putting out 360hp and 650lb-ft of torque.
  • alex145alex145 Posts: 1
    I got a 2004 350.Should i wait for the 07,or get the 06? It does have better options for work.
  • akenatenakenaten Posts: 122
    The new Duramax is already here.I have it. :)
  • fordguy300fordguy300 Posts: 4
    I don't like the front or back end anymore with the 2007 design. I love ford trucks and have always owned one, but now I'm not to sure what Ford is trying to accomplish by flipping the tail lights over, messing with the grille, and completely re-doing the headlights. Now they are like a chevy, with the parking light on top. That's NOT FORD!!
    The fog lights should have been left in the middle next to the license plate frame, and the steering wheel should have never been redesigned. I'm not to sure I want to buy a truck that looks like this. The 2006 is the best looking style in the Superduty years. Don't change it into that! That AIN'T FORD!!!
  • fordguy300fordguy300 Posts: 4
    Check out the 2007 Ford F-250 and F-350 Superduty. What is going on inside of Ford? The headlights are ( straight shout out from a Ford truck enthusiast and superduty owner ), UGLY!
    The rear end is like an F-150 with the Ford oval in the middle. The tail lights have been turned so the reverse light is on top. That is something a Japanese car company would do. Where does it say "F-250" or "F350" on the tailgate?
    The interior is like the F-150 and looks cheesey and cheap compared to the 2006. Ford is not doing a great job on redesigning the Superduty trucks. Spreading the fog lights is a bad idea. Where they shine is where theres already light.
    Plus, the headlights are on the bottem and the parking light on top. Thats a crappy Chevy idea.
    Keeping them as the 2006 is a great look for the truck. Or how about changing them back to the 1990 style headlights? Ford is turning the Superduyt truck into a "pansie" lookin truck on the inside and just wrong on the front and rear ends. At least the sides haven't changed!
  • schmedlyschmedly Posts: 44
    The 2007 Superduty is unchanged from the '06 moel year. The design change that you are describing is for the '08 model year which will be out early '07 as an '08. I believe they are expecting January as the month it will debut. This also ties in with the new powerstroke that will obsolete the 6.0.
  • fordguy300fordguy300 Posts: 4
    Ford says the re-designed superduty will be out fall 2006. The 6.4 diesel will make 350HP and 650 ft-lbs torque. I still say the 7.3 litre should have never been erased from the newer Ford trucks.
  • toolttimetoolttime Posts: 4
    I like the the look of the new superduty look. I've had 6 superduty. In 03 my 6.0 was crap and ford bought it back. My 04 6.0 has not given problem in 100000km
  • Me and my buddy just bought '06 p-strokes He got a 350, I took a 250, both Lariats They totally rock, He did tromp on the pedal and blew the hose out that connects to the turbo charger, but ford replaced it, other than that this truck is the [non-permissible content removed]. We have had no problems. I hate the look of the new super duty, It looks like a chevy. I would buy an 07 now, you can get good deals. I hate the dodge and the chevy. All my buddys have the Ford. Last year I was hunting in the mts. with 2 guys who had a dodge. It sucked in the rugged terrain.
  • rhausrhaus Posts: 1
    Well the pictures are out! In keeping with the Edmunds forum rules I cannot post any specific sites but a GOOGLE on 2008 and FORD will provide plenty to look at. My '05 F350 has been, for the most part, trouble free, but after the last "update" to the diesel programming I am plagued with hesitations on acceleration. My interest in the '08 is high as the promise of a better suspension, a more responsive diesel and a more user friendly interior is certainly a plus over the '05-06's and so called 07's.

    This being the starting message I am in hopes that in the coming months there will be a lot of input on perception and just general feedback on the new super duties as they become available to see and touch.

    As a side I would hope that Ford would monitor this forum and take heed on what its potential customers are saying. Let me start by saying, "please loose the faux wood dashboards".

    Let the forum begin!
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    "please loose the faux wood dashboards".

    Are they as nice as GM's or do they look cheap ?

    Rocky
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,712
    The new-look Super Duty is a 2008 model, not a 2007 model.

    Bob
  • I have the new issue of "truck trend" and the 08 is in there. My opinion on the new truck is the headlights are upside down and they really made the grill ugly by stretching it too much towards the window. The interior is nicer than my '06 but I wanted it like the 1/2 ton which has always been nicer than the HD's. But I cant wait for the real hp and torque #'s from the twin turbo 6.4ltr. the #'s are only an estimate of what they may be. I know people who put twins on dodges and the hp is more like 400 hp and 710 ft lbs. in spring 08 I will wait to see if they grow on me enough to buy one. In my eyes the 06 I have has an exterior that is styled nice with black paint, chrome pkg and lariat interior pkg. The 06 and 07's body styles are better than the 08's....well front end any ways.
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    The 2008 Super Duty's unique reverse-stacked headlamps place the high beam under the running lamps and turn signals making them more compatible with other vehicles and reducing unwanted glare.

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  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    The new 6.4 liter twin-turbo diesel is manufactured for Ford by International Truck and Engine Corp and makes 350 hp and 650 lb-ft of torque. The new V-8 uses a state-of-the-art piezo fuel injection system.

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  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    The 2008 F-Series Super Duty's side vents, a design inspired by the TONKA concept truck, dissipate engine compartment heat and designate what type of powertrain lies beneath the hood; red for diesel, black for gasoline.

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    F-450 Lariat Crew Cab

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    The 2008 Ford F-Series Super Duty's patented, hydroformed body structure is made up of two high-strength steel side rails that are welded to the bulkhead and frame. They not only serve to create a very rigid foundation, but the system's modular construction eases assembly and delivers a more dimensionally accurate truck.

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    Suspension

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    The 2008 Ford F-Series Super Duty's frame features a fully boxed front section that has been optimized for safety. The unique front frame horn design lowers the frame by seven inches meeting vehicle compatibility standards without the need for a blocker beam. The design also provides improved vehicle cooling as well as a solid footing for the hydroformed body structure.

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  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    The following is from Bob Kehoe of The Oregonian August 26, 2006:

    Automakers earn an average profit of $13,000 for each full-size pickup they build, excluding incentives and other marketing costs, according to estimates from CNW Marketing Research in Bandon [Oregon].

    New Ford Super Duty
  • I work in oilfeild transportation, amoung people that put on 80,000 miles a year the 6.0L is about as popular as herpes. People are trading these trucks in at 1/3 of what they paid for them after one year, there just terrible. Ford has tornished it's rep so bad with this engine it should be thinking with a clean sheet mentality. They should have dropped Navistar as there engine builder and picked up a small diesal from Caterpiller. Like Cummins, just the name Car would sell a sizable number of trucks and it would show the general public that Ford saw the problem and did something about it besides wiggling out of warranty work.

    If any of you Dodge owners are reading, sad days are coming, the 5.9L is completly redone for 08 with 70% new parts, and let me tell you with the new Cummins for bigger trucks as their benchmark, they will be terrible.
  • mettechmettech Posts: 28
    I hope that Edmunds will put a '08 SuperDuty PowerStroke in their longterm fleet.
  • What exactly went wrong with the 6.0L???
  • First year '03 model had lots of birthing pains. Took several iterations of engine control software to get it right. There were a bunch of other problems with oil and coolant leaks, turbo tubes blowing off, the "thrum" and the "romp", etc., etc. They had a lot of the problems resolved by end of '03. But there is still a higher incidence of problems than there was with the previous 7.8L Powerstroke. When it runs right, 6.0L is supposedly a wonderful motor, but when it's got problems, it's driving folks nuts. IMHO Ford goofed, Navistar has this engine running great on its own vehicles, but in an effort to save cost, Ford decided to redesign all the engine controls when they contracted with Navistar to build the engines for them. I think the Ford bean-counters shot themselves in the foot.

    Ford went with the new 6.4L engine to be able to meet the new much stricter emmissions standards for diesels, and to be able to handle ultra low sulphur diesel fuel. Hopefully they learned a hard lesson with the 6.0L
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    It is my understanding that the 6.0 was unique among diesels in using both electronics AND oil pressure to control fuel injection. All other engines were one or the other.

    Oil viscosity variations change engine performance. PLUS
    Ford did not get the word out DO NOT MOD THIS ENGINE.

    Mark.
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