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Honda CR-V Towing

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  • Hello Big Daddy,

    I can't speak to the tow limits of your vehicle, but I can say this; It is a machine. I have been an industrial mechanic for 34 years. In industry, machines are run until they break and then we fix them and then they are run until they break again and we fix them... again.

    Be safe, follow the guide lines which the manufacture establishes as close as you feel comfortable. Your vehicle will break down before it breaks in two.

    My Honda is a 2007 CRV with a 1500lbs tow limit. I read the owners manual and it is very confusing. It seems they are limited the vehicle to 1500lbs total, in car and towed weight.

    Use your own good sense.

    We have a class 3 hitch and have rented UHaul utility trailers to move stuff to the dump, bring in landscaping gravel, mulch, etc, etc. We have at times double our tow limit of 1500lbs without damage, but the car suffers performance wise.

    My advice is to install or have installed a hitch, rent a UHaul for $18 a day, and clean up your house and yard. This will give you a good feel for what its all about and it will also make your wife and neighbors happy.

    Good Luck
  • Finally I did find someone to put on the hitch I needed without it costing
    over 500.,we found a used trailer too ,its a start will get us use to driving
    with a trailer,may upgrade in the soon future.
    UHaul was of no help but we had several people tell us to try to rent one
    from them first.
    Do you know me and or my house I have done lots of work to it this year
    new roof,painting the exterior,new gutter,new front porch.
    I can do so much in the wheather we have here in Oregon and don't really
    care what the neighbors think.
  • I am towing a Fleetwood Cobat with my 2008 CRV (1,340 lbs unloaded). I was very nervous about buying it based upon the amount of discussion regarding this topic. However, my CRV is pulling it NO PROBLEM. I live in Colorado and have pulled it over Kenosha Pass, Monarch Pass, and Eisenhower Passes at 55mph+. Plenty of power, but you know it's there.
  • That's about the same weight we are pulling with our Scamp travel trailer. Again, no problems so far. I do notice a slight "whine" that last only a few seconds that seems to be coming from the front of the CR-V "2007". The sound is spiratic, and can happen at any speed and condition. It sounds like something being activated in the transmission or differential. Any help?
  • No idea. I haven't had any problems like that. When I have been pulling up a very steep hill for a long while, I HAVE smelled a little bit of a tranny smell, but that's about it.
  • l0g1kl0g1k Posts: 9
    To answer this question:
    Are transmission coolers and larger brakes really available for the Gen 1 CR-V?

    I don't know for transmission coolers, but the 1997-2001 Honda CRV share the exact same front discs and pads has a 1998-2001 Acura Integra Type R.

    So for front break upgrades there are endless possibilities in the aftermarket.

    As for me, I own a 1999 CRV with manual transmission.

    I'm planning on buying an old Gitan travel trailer (made here in Canada and I beleive they weren't sold anywere else).

    The model I'm looking for is 16 feet long rated at 1450 lbs. I plan on changing the CRV next year for a used Honda Ridgeline or a brand new Jeep patriot (still undecided) so I'll be towing this trailer only one summer.

    However I live in the mountains and I wonder if the CRV will be up to the task.

    With the equipment I'm pretty sure the Gitan will be a bit over the 1500 lbs limit.

    I'll be upgrading the break pads for a set of PBR ceramic pads.

    On another note, a guy around here used to tow is 2200 lbs race car on a dolly with a 2000 CRV and didn't seem to have any problem.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,371
    I wouldn't be worried about the brakes (Brakes? We don't need no stinkin' brakes). I'd be worried if your ten-year-old clutch is up to the job... I had a '98 CR-V with a stick, and though it was down about 20 HP from your model, the torque was about the same... I can't imagine pulling an extra 1500 lbs. around with it..

    I don't have any practical experience with a trailer. But, the clutch would be my area of concern..

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • l0g1kl0g1k Posts: 9
    My clutch is also my main concern.

    I'v pulled trailers with small cars before and never had any problem.

    I even pulled my Yamaha Warrior in a trailer with a 1990 Suzuki Swift with a 70 hp engine. Altough it wouldn't go faster than 60 mph in 4th gear (engine would slow down in 5th gear) it wasn't that bad.

    I used to pull the same ATV with a 99 Ford Escort Station wagon and wouldn't even notice a difference with the trailer or without (about 600 lbs combined trailer + ATV).
  • I've towed up with several small cars including approx. 1400lbs with a '03 Toyota Corolla. They all manged fine. the brakes were more a concern o nthe smaller cars.

    The worry about the clutch is over emphasised unless you drive a LOT of stop and go traffic. You only need hte clutch to get up to 10mph. After that, it's not being used. Just besure no to slip the clutch too much when getting started. Use the torque of the engine rather than the clutch and accept that it will be a little slugish until 15mph.

    My '09 CR-V does great with my 900lb trailer when loaded with a motorcycle. It has PLENTy of braking power, very stable and the transmisison works a little harder, but the shift logic deals with the laod as though it's on a incline or driving into a headwind. So it doens't hunt much and typically picks a gear and locks the torque converter. With a heavier load or very hilly terrian, I would lock out OD. But on flat ground at freeway speeds, it's not nesseary and can hold 5th gear with the TC locked.
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,345
    So a couple years later now....are you still towing it without trouble? I am in mkt for a small trlr with toilet and shower also and have a std tranny 05.
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,345
    How is the Gitan working out? Are you still towing without trouble? I too am in mkt for a small trlr with toilet and shower. Now that yopu are done with it, are u interested in selling that trlr?
  • So, I desperately need a little advice here (not a beating)...

    I recently bought a 2005 T@B trailer, which according to title weighs 1500lbs. It has surge brakes, and an emergency stop cord. I have a 2007 CRV, with a tow capacity of 1500lbs. I plan on getting a Kurt hitch and a transmission cooler installed.

    I plan on putting MAYBE 100-150 lbs in the trailer. My son and I together might weight 200lbs. I may put another 100-200 lbs of stuff in the CRV.

    I have read this entire board and seen both the pros and the cons of towing over the max. rating. I have also been told by some that it is completely doable, while others have said no way.

    So I am just a little confused at this point, and would LOVE to figure out what the reality of it all is...
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,345
    edited April 2010
    I have reported a viewing error as follows trying to reply to 10g1k in post #111.

    and he included a bunch of pictures. But I can't read all text on right side of columns and worse, there are no reply buttons cuz they are also on the right.

    Even the poster below his, even tho no pictures, their post is also chopped down the right side. I suspect the picture posting is what screwed it up. I really wanted to see what was written though.
    Any ideas why it is not displaying properly? >>

    So as you can see I wasn't able to read all of your post nor reply to it cuz the right side page is chopped and that is also where the reply buttons are if i remember. I had to create a new message in order to post.

    Is anyone else having this difficulty viewing the page?
    Sorry, I would really like to know what you said too. Was a very informative post :(

    edit - But if you copy/paste your message again here on this page but without the pics on this page I will be able to see it, it seems after posting mine here now. I can read all of the posters post below yours now that it is on this page.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,371
    Click on the post number of the 1st post below the one with the pictures... That will fix it.

    The pictures are too big for the page, causing the posts below it to run over, as well. But, if you start with the next post, you'll be able to read, reply, etc..

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,345
    edited April 2010
    Thanks, I tried what you suggested. I clicked on #112. It is still chopped. And now my own post is chopped too. I guess the only time I could see it was in edit mode. Altho I thought I had seen it after but i guess not. In any event I wonder if anyone else sees the chop and can't fix it either? Any other suggestions? If you can tell poster with pics, I would like to see what he said, maybe you could c/p here for me. Altho all the posts here are chopped still so I don't know..

    edit- yes please, post (c/p) here, so far this page isn't chopped.
    I still don't have a save/reply box so had to subject line you
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,345
    edited April 2010
    Thanks, I tried what you suggested. I clicked on #112. It is still chopped. And now my own post is chopped too. I guess the only time I could see it was in edit mode. Altho I thought I had seen it after but i guess not. In any event I wonder if anyone else sees the chop and can't fix it either? Any other suggestions? If you can tell poster with pics, I would like to see what he said, maybe you could c/p here for me. Altho all the posts here are chopped still so I don't know..

    edit- yes please, post (c/p) here, so far this page isn't chopped.

    this time it gave me a save/reply icon? weird..

    edit 2 - ok - i have to click on the post # in order to get a box that includes the save/reply - but still can't see the post i want because it is on the previous page.

    Clicking on #112 wouldn't fix it, but clicking on my own #113 did, but only on this page, as soon as i go PREV page, it is back to #111 at the bottom and nothing lets it display in whole.

    Ok, i managed to drag and highlight it and c/p it myself into a text file and was able to read it that way. Still seems to be glitch though if clicking the post below his post # doesn't make it display right. I guess because #111 is a bottom of that page by chance.
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,345
    ok i managed to read all your post by jumping through some hoops.

    Very interesting though that the Element managed easier. It is heavier and not as aerodynamic as the CRV. The one difference it the gearing. It is geared lower to allow for its extra weight etc. but what is shocking is that it, in 5th, was more capable than the CRV in 4th. That is astonishing. I wonder if the Element is tuned differently also and has a more useable fuel map if needed. (which of course would use tons more fuel if it does, but also would increase exhaust manifold temps considerably).
    Aside from oil and tranny coolers when towing, exhaust temps is another result that few owners or even journalists comment on when towing.

    As for your 120kph pull being easier than 100kph, I believe it. I get better mpg at 100kph than I do at 80kph. And it is true that Honda engines especially acquire their torque at higher revs.

    For interests sake, with my 05 5 speed I managed 26.5 to 27.5 mpg all winter with 2/3rd rural hwy and 1/3 city driving. It'll go up now that the warmer wx is here. But it is hard pressed to get the numbers it is supposed to on a regular basis. It doesn't seem to have as much torque taking off in a hill as my X Trail did, and requires more clutch slipping. But it runs smoother, if radio is on you sometimes look down and realize you are still in 4th or even 3rd at rare times. Now that is a smooth running 4 cylinder.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,762
    Are really not designed for towing heavy loads and I cringe when I see a CRV or other small SUV pulling a heavy load.

    If someone is smelling a hot automatic transmission, that transmission is being abused and overheated. It's life will be shortened.

    Trucks and large SUV's are much better suited for towing.

    I know I wouldn't buiy a used CRV with a Class 3 hitch on it.
  • davidefdavidef Posts: 3
    I need some help....I own a 2007 cr-v. I am moving from florida back to canada and I need to add a trailor hitch. Any suggestions? AND will be towing a 4x8 uhaul (ikea kids bed, and around 10 med to large boxes). I will have the lighter boxes about 3 in the back of my cr-v. distance to canada is around 1400 miles.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,010
    Maybe we can get l0g1k to park the photos in a CarSpace album and repost - our software doesn't handle large photos gracefully.

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  • l0g1kl0g1k Posts: 9
    I see that my post got erased, it's a bummer because I'll have to redo the whole post and not just fix the pictures.

    On another note, the Element has the K24 engine, the same as a 2001+ CRV as my 1999 has a B20Z engine, 2 litre instead of 2.4 for the element.

    My guess is that a 2001+ CRV would tow as easily as the Honda Element.
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,345
    I managed to make a copy of it if u like (the text) u want me to post it as a quote copy/paste? It'll save u the typing.
  • l0g1kl0g1k Posts: 9
    That would be grately appreciated.

    Thanks!
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,345
    edited April 2010
    Posting a copy/paste of his quote (l0g1k) at his request. You're welcome, it was a good post and will be helpful to others also.

    "Well I didn't buy a Gitan finally, I went with a trailer-tent instead. It's a big one however, 12 feet long and weight about as much as a Gitan. Actually the Gitan weights less on the tongue than my Bonair, I can lift up a Gitan by myself but I can't lift my tent-trailer (about 200 lbs on the tongue is my guess, I got 2 20 lbs propane botles and a 60 lbs deep cycle battery).

    I drove a lot of millage with it and it does pull hard when I get up hills. On the flat it's really easy to pull but it seems to have a lot less trouble pulling at 120 km/h than at 100 km/h. The RPM is higher and the CRV delivers more torque I guess. At 100 km/h going up an overpass brings the speed to about 85/90 km/h if I floor it and don't downshift.

    Breaking isn't as much of a concern as I tought, I even had an electronic break controller installed and I'm not even using it anymore (I would need to have the Bonair breaks fixed).

    The main problem for me is that I like to go in the woods and as I expected the clutch isn't up to the challenge when going up hill from a stop. I'm looking to change my CRV to a bigger, automatic SUV.

    I also moved my girlfriend with a rental trailer witch was a lot more heavy than the tent trailer. Pulling it wasn't that bad altough we were on the flats all along. The suspension had alot of problems, the shocks were at their lowest.Even when I'm towing my Bonair, the rear suspension is really low. The coil springs arn't stiff enough.

    On a different note, I've pulled the tent trailer with a lot of my friend's different vehicules and one of them has a Honda Element. It's the same meccanic as a 2001 + Honda CRV and it pulled my Bonair butifully. We were 4 in the Element fully loaded and it didn't even need to downshift a big hill around my place where I have to floor it in 4th gear to stay up to speed.

    As a bonus, the CRV near a lake"
  • l0g1kl0g1k Posts: 9
    ">Here is the original post:

    Well I didn't buy a Gitan finally, I went with a trailer-tent instead. It's a big one however, 12 feet long and weight about as much as a Gitan. Actually the Gitan weights less on the tongue than my Bonair, I can lift up a Gitan by myself but I can't lift my tent-trailer (about 200 lbs on the tongue is my guess, I got 2 20 lbs propane botles and a 60 lbs deep cycle battery).

    I drove a lot of millage with it and it does pull hard when I get up hills. On the flat it's really easy to pull but it seems to have a lot less trouble pulling at 120 km/h than at 100 km/h. The RPM is higher and the CRV delivers more torque I guess. At 100 km/h going up an overpass brings the speed to about 85/90 km/h if I floor it and don't downshift.

    Breaking isn't as much of a concern as I tought, I even had an electronic break controller installed and I'm not even using it anymore (I would need to have the Bonair breaks fixed).

    The main problem for me is that I like to go in the woods and as I expected the clutch isn't up to the challenge when going up hill from a stop. I'm looking to change my CRV to a bigger, automatic SUV.

    I also moved my girlfriend with a rental trailer witch was a lot more heavy than the tent trailer. Pulling it wasn't that bad altough we were on the flats all along. The suspension had alot of problems, the shocks were at their lowest.Even when I'm towing my Bonair, the rear suspension is really low. The coil springs arn't stiff enough.

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    On a different note, I've pulled the tent trailer with a lot of my friend's different vehicules and one of them has a Honda Element. It's the same meccanic as a 2001 + Honda CRV and it pulled my Bonair butifully. We were 4 in the Element fully loaded and it didn't even need to downshift a big hill around my place where I have to floor it in 4th gear to stay up to speed.

    As a bonus, the CRV near a lake

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,762
    edited April 2010
    I would want to buy that CRV.

    Just because they "can" do something, the strain is tremendous and the car will pay a price.

    You idea of buying something that was built to tow is a great idea!

    Edit...I would not want to buy that CRV!
  • l0g1kl0g1k Posts: 9
    A year later, I don't think the CRV suffered much from the towing, engine and transmission are still runing great, the car has 160 000 miles on it and still drives great.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,762
    edited April 2010
    Well, maybe no long term damage was done but it still was abuse.

    Honda can take a beating and still run well!
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,010
    Thanks, that fits. :)

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  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,797
    On another note, the Element has the K24 engine, the same as a 2001+ CRV as my 1999 has a B20Z engine, 2 litre instead of 2.4 for the element.

    My guess is that a 2001+ CRV would tow as easily as the Honda Element.


    Element has K24 block but a slightly different head than the CR-V. 2002-2006 CR-V has K24A1, while I believe Element has K24A5 or A3, someone with the Element can confrm that.

    The 1997-1998 CR-V has B20B engine
    The 1999-2001 CR-V had B20Z engine.
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