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Honda CR-V Towing

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  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346
    How is the Gitan working out? Are you still towing without trouble? I too am in mkt for a small trlr with toilet and shower. Now that yopu are done with it, are u interested in selling that trlr?
  • So, I desperately need a little advice here (not a beating)...

    I recently bought a 2005 T@B trailer, which according to title weighs 1500lbs. It has surge brakes, and an emergency stop cord. I have a 2007 CRV, with a tow capacity of 1500lbs. I plan on getting a Kurt hitch and a transmission cooler installed.

    I plan on putting MAYBE 100-150 lbs in the trailer. My son and I together might weight 200lbs. I may put another 100-200 lbs of stuff in the CRV.

    I have read this entire board and seen both the pros and the cons of towing over the max. rating. I have also been told by some that it is completely doable, while others have said no way.

    So I am just a little confused at this point, and would LOVE to figure out what the reality of it all is...
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346
    edited April 2010
    I have reported a viewing error as follows trying to reply to 10g1k in post #111.

    and he included a bunch of pictures. But I can't read all text on right side of columns and worse, there are no reply buttons cuz they are also on the right.

    Even the poster below his, even tho no pictures, their post is also chopped down the right side. I suspect the picture posting is what screwed it up. I really wanted to see what was written though.
    Any ideas why it is not displaying properly? >>

    So as you can see I wasn't able to read all of your post nor reply to it cuz the right side page is chopped and that is also where the reply buttons are if i remember. I had to create a new message in order to post.

    Is anyone else having this difficulty viewing the page?
    Sorry, I would really like to know what you said too. Was a very informative post :(

    edit - But if you copy/paste your message again here on this page but without the pics on this page I will be able to see it, it seems after posting mine here now. I can read all of the posters post below yours now that it is on this page.
  • kyfdx@Edmundskyfdx@Edmunds Posts: 25,959
    Click on the post number of the 1st post below the one with the pictures... That will fix it.

    The pictures are too big for the page, causing the posts below it to run over, as well. But, if you start with the next post, you'll be able to read, reply, etc..

    regards,
    kyfdx

    Moderator - Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346
    edited April 2010
    Thanks, I tried what you suggested. I clicked on #112. It is still chopped. And now my own post is chopped too. I guess the only time I could see it was in edit mode. Altho I thought I had seen it after but i guess not. In any event I wonder if anyone else sees the chop and can't fix it either? Any other suggestions? If you can tell poster with pics, I would like to see what he said, maybe you could c/p here for me. Altho all the posts here are chopped still so I don't know..

    edit- yes please, post (c/p) here, so far this page isn't chopped.
    I still don't have a save/reply box so had to subject line you
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346
    edited April 2010
    Thanks, I tried what you suggested. I clicked on #112. It is still chopped. And now my own post is chopped too. I guess the only time I could see it was in edit mode. Altho I thought I had seen it after but i guess not. In any event I wonder if anyone else sees the chop and can't fix it either? Any other suggestions? If you can tell poster with pics, I would like to see what he said, maybe you could c/p here for me. Altho all the posts here are chopped still so I don't know..

    edit- yes please, post (c/p) here, so far this page isn't chopped.

    this time it gave me a save/reply icon? weird..

    edit 2 - ok - i have to click on the post # in order to get a box that includes the save/reply - but still can't see the post i want because it is on the previous page.

    Clicking on #112 wouldn't fix it, but clicking on my own #113 did, but only on this page, as soon as i go PREV page, it is back to #111 at the bottom and nothing lets it display in whole.

    Ok, i managed to drag and highlight it and c/p it myself into a text file and was able to read it that way. Still seems to be glitch though if clicking the post below his post # doesn't make it display right. I guess because #111 is a bottom of that page by chance.
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346
    ok i managed to read all your post by jumping through some hoops.

    Very interesting though that the Element managed easier. It is heavier and not as aerodynamic as the CRV. The one difference it the gearing. It is geared lower to allow for its extra weight etc. but what is shocking is that it, in 5th, was more capable than the CRV in 4th. That is astonishing. I wonder if the Element is tuned differently also and has a more useable fuel map if needed. (which of course would use tons more fuel if it does, but also would increase exhaust manifold temps considerably).
    Aside from oil and tranny coolers when towing, exhaust temps is another result that few owners or even journalists comment on when towing.

    As for your 120kph pull being easier than 100kph, I believe it. I get better mpg at 100kph than I do at 80kph. And it is true that Honda engines especially acquire their torque at higher revs.

    For interests sake, with my 05 5 speed I managed 26.5 to 27.5 mpg all winter with 2/3rd rural hwy and 1/3 city driving. It'll go up now that the warmer wx is here. But it is hard pressed to get the numbers it is supposed to on a regular basis. It doesn't seem to have as much torque taking off in a hill as my X Trail did, and requires more clutch slipping. But it runs smoother, if radio is on you sometimes look down and realize you are still in 4th or even 3rd at rare times. Now that is a smooth running 4 cylinder.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,362
    Are really not designed for towing heavy loads and I cringe when I see a CRV or other small SUV pulling a heavy load.

    If someone is smelling a hot automatic transmission, that transmission is being abused and overheated. It's life will be shortened.

    Trucks and large SUV's are much better suited for towing.

    I know I wouldn't buiy a used CRV with a Class 3 hitch on it.
  • davidefdavidef Posts: 3
    I need some help....I own a 2007 cr-v. I am moving from florida back to canada and I need to add a trailor hitch. Any suggestions? AND will be towing a 4x8 uhaul (ikea kids bed, and around 10 med to large boxes). I will have the lighter boxes about 3 in the back of my cr-v. distance to canada is around 1400 miles.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,039
    Maybe we can get l0g1k to park the photos in a CarSpace album and repost - our software doesn't handle large photos gracefully.
  • l0g1kl0g1k Posts: 9
    I see that my post got erased, it's a bummer because I'll have to redo the whole post and not just fix the pictures.

    On another note, the Element has the K24 engine, the same as a 2001+ CRV as my 1999 has a B20Z engine, 2 litre instead of 2.4 for the element.

    My guess is that a 2001+ CRV would tow as easily as the Honda Element.
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346
    I managed to make a copy of it if u like (the text) u want me to post it as a quote copy/paste? It'll save u the typing.
  • l0g1kl0g1k Posts: 9
    That would be grately appreciated.

    Thanks!
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346
    edited April 2010
    Posting a copy/paste of his quote (l0g1k) at his request. You're welcome, it was a good post and will be helpful to others also.

    "Well I didn't buy a Gitan finally, I went with a trailer-tent instead. It's a big one however, 12 feet long and weight about as much as a Gitan. Actually the Gitan weights less on the tongue than my Bonair, I can lift up a Gitan by myself but I can't lift my tent-trailer (about 200 lbs on the tongue is my guess, I got 2 20 lbs propane botles and a 60 lbs deep cycle battery).

    I drove a lot of millage with it and it does pull hard when I get up hills. On the flat it's really easy to pull but it seems to have a lot less trouble pulling at 120 km/h than at 100 km/h. The RPM is higher and the CRV delivers more torque I guess. At 100 km/h going up an overpass brings the speed to about 85/90 km/h if I floor it and don't downshift.

    Breaking isn't as much of a concern as I tought, I even had an electronic break controller installed and I'm not even using it anymore (I would need to have the Bonair breaks fixed).

    The main problem for me is that I like to go in the woods and as I expected the clutch isn't up to the challenge when going up hill from a stop. I'm looking to change my CRV to a bigger, automatic SUV.

    I also moved my girlfriend with a rental trailer witch was a lot more heavy than the tent trailer. Pulling it wasn't that bad altough we were on the flats all along. The suspension had alot of problems, the shocks were at their lowest.Even when I'm towing my Bonair, the rear suspension is really low. The coil springs arn't stiff enough.

    On a different note, I've pulled the tent trailer with a lot of my friend's different vehicules and one of them has a Honda Element. It's the same meccanic as a 2001 + Honda CRV and it pulled my Bonair butifully. We were 4 in the Element fully loaded and it didn't even need to downshift a big hill around my place where I have to floor it in 4th gear to stay up to speed.

    As a bonus, the CRV near a lake"
  • l0g1kl0g1k Posts: 9
    ">Here is the original post:

    Well I didn't buy a Gitan finally, I went with a trailer-tent instead. It's a big one however, 12 feet long and weight about as much as a Gitan. Actually the Gitan weights less on the tongue than my Bonair, I can lift up a Gitan by myself but I can't lift my tent-trailer (about 200 lbs on the tongue is my guess, I got 2 20 lbs propane botles and a 60 lbs deep cycle battery).

    I drove a lot of millage with it and it does pull hard when I get up hills. On the flat it's really easy to pull but it seems to have a lot less trouble pulling at 120 km/h than at 100 km/h. The RPM is higher and the CRV delivers more torque I guess. At 100 km/h going up an overpass brings the speed to about 85/90 km/h if I floor it and don't downshift.

    Breaking isn't as much of a concern as I tought, I even had an electronic break controller installed and I'm not even using it anymore (I would need to have the Bonair breaks fixed).

    The main problem for me is that I like to go in the woods and as I expected the clutch isn't up to the challenge when going up hill from a stop. I'm looking to change my CRV to a bigger, automatic SUV.

    I also moved my girlfriend with a rental trailer witch was a lot more heavy than the tent trailer. Pulling it wasn't that bad altough we were on the flats all along. The suspension had alot of problems, the shocks were at their lowest.Even when I'm towing my Bonair, the rear suspension is really low. The coil springs arn't stiff enough.

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    On a different note, I've pulled the tent trailer with a lot of my friend's different vehicules and one of them has a Honda Element. It's the same meccanic as a 2001 + Honda CRV and it pulled my Bonair butifully. We were 4 in the Element fully loaded and it didn't even need to downshift a big hill around my place where I have to floor it in 4th gear to stay up to speed.

    As a bonus, the CRV near a lake

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,362
    edited April 2010
    I would want to buy that CRV.

    Just because they "can" do something, the strain is tremendous and the car will pay a price.

    You idea of buying something that was built to tow is a great idea!

    Edit...I would not want to buy that CRV!
  • l0g1kl0g1k Posts: 9
    A year later, I don't think the CRV suffered much from the towing, engine and transmission are still runing great, the car has 160 000 miles on it and still drives great.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,362
    edited April 2010
    Well, maybe no long term damage was done but it still was abuse.

    Honda can take a beating and still run well!
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,039
    Thanks, that fits. :)
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,803
    On another note, the Element has the K24 engine, the same as a 2001+ CRV as my 1999 has a B20Z engine, 2 litre instead of 2.4 for the element.

    My guess is that a 2001+ CRV would tow as easily as the Honda Element.


    Element has K24 block but a slightly different head than the CR-V. 2002-2006 CR-V has K24A1, while I believe Element has K24A5 or A3, someone with the Element can confrm that.

    The 1997-1998 CR-V has B20B engine
    The 1999-2001 CR-V had B20Z engine.
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