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BMW 3-Series Run Flat Tires

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  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    My suggestion: spend some time reading tech specs and reviews on www.tirerack.com.

    That's a great source of tire info.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,678
    Oh that's quite interesting. I didn't have a clue about that.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,545
    One other point (courtesy of capriracer)..

    Treadwear ratings are not necessarily consistent between manufacturers.. just between tire models within their own brand.

    I know... that makes no sense, but nevertheless..

    So a 200 treadwear tire from Michelin will have half the treadwear of a 400 tire from Michelin, but might not be the same as a 200 treadwear tire from Bridgestone..

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  • capriracercapriracer Somewhere in the USPosts: 798
    '.......One other point (courtesy of capriracer)......."

    Sorry, but you've got that wrong.

    You CAN compare treadwear ratings between brands because they are compared to the same - standard - tire. The problem is that there can be a lot of games played, so you have to realize the number is not precise.

    And the problem exists within brands as well.

    So a 200 treadwear tire from Michelin will have about half the treadwear of ANY 400 tire regardless of brand. The operative words here is "about".
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    I used the Nissan Versa example because of personal experience. I have 2 daughters, one with an 09 Versa and the other with an 08 Altima. Both cars came equipped with the same series Continental tires.

    The Versa tires had no tread left at 30K miles, while the tires on the Altima have over 50K miles, and at this point, I think they'll easily pass 80K miles. There were no alignment issues on either car, which I had verified by a local shop.

    Now, some might say that different driving characteristics are at play, and to some extent, that's true. In this case, I replaced the Versa tires with a set of Generals, and with 25K plus miles on that set, they hardly look worn.

    If you ever see diametrically opposed tire-wear reviews on sites like www.tirerack.com, this scenario is quite likely the reason for the wide swings and discrepancies. So, even though a particular sized tire in a brand gets exceptional/poor mileage, it may or may not reflect what one would see on a different sized tire of the same brand/series.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,678
    Fact is, the treadware rating started out as a good idea but has morphed into something that is "not what it seems" and so, is only of limited use to the consumer.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,777
    If you want a UHP all season GFT I would suggest the Cooper Zeon RS3-A and the Pirelli PZero Nero All-Season. I've run both tires on BMWs as well as a Mazdaspeed 3 and I've been very happy with their performance and tread life.
    For an inexpensive summer tire that you can also track I strongly suggest the Dunlop Direzza Star Spec. If your car doesn't see the track all that much I like the Michelin Pilot Super Sport- although it is a bit pricey.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • okcloookcloo Posts: 11
    How much did you pay for the Tire warranty? How many years? What tire size?

    Thanks!
  • nkeennkeen Posts: 316
    A lot of the comments about wear fail to distinguish between the base tire and the sport package tire, which is very sticky and has a very short life. In my experience the RE050 becomes very noisy long before the tread wears out (around 10K miles on the current set, with plenty of tread left).

    As for the concerns about the snow traction of the summer-only sport package tire on a $45,000 car, well, this raises questions about the need for anything beyond a very rudimentary education to do well in today's economy.
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,563
    The Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 Run Flats on the BMW 335iS I am driving [ includes MSport Package ] are 225/40ZR18 fronts & 255/35ZR18 rears.

    At 24,000 miles, I perceive no significant increase in noise, so far. Tread is wearing well. The Goodyear Run Flats on the 2007 Corvette I drove for over 30,000 miles were well worn, and noisier, but these Michelins appear better in every aspect.

    [[ Living in the Atlanta area, the snow performance is not a high priority for me. ]]
    YMMV.
    - Ray
    For Run Flats, these are the best I have yet encountered . . .
  • nkeennkeen Posts: 316
    Ray, thanks for the info. I don't see them in 17" on Tire Rack. Wonder if they are available elsewhere.
  • dino001dino001 Tampa, FLPosts: 3,541
    I have Continentals ExtremeContact2 runflats, sports package, same tire widths sizes except 17 inch wheels. 20 thousand miles, the wear seems very nicely (still good treadlife left, it seems), at this point still great dry traction and marginally lower wet traction vs. new. The tire has never been quiet on rough pavement, I think there is a gradual noise increase. As a replacement I'm considering Bridgestone 960AS RFT, which tirerack pegged as best all-season run-flat. The wear index is higher than the Contis, but this doesn't mean sure thing (each mfr. uses different scale and benchmarks).

    2012 BMW 328i wagon, manual and sports package. No. sold in the US: 1. Probably.

  • dino001dino001 Tampa, FLPosts: 3,541
    The choice of sizes is extremely limited in RFT category. The manufacturers don't make even half of the sizes of regular tires, so there is no surprise you can't see them. They probably don't exist. You may consider changing the size a little bit (e.g. from 255 to 245), which usually means the radius will also be slightly different, but as long as left to right match, it's OK.

    2012 BMW 328i wagon, manual and sports package. No. sold in the US: 1. Probably.

  • johnsamjohnsam Posts: 55
    AGREE with nkeen 100%.
    Had used run flats on 2 Bimmers (2001 330i & 2006 330i) until I smartened up and changed to standard Michelins 4 years ago. Never looked back. As nkeen states, wear too quickly.
    My words.....son't waste your money on RFTs. Yes they do serve a purpose but my experience, keeping a spare "donut tire" in the trunk + all the required tools including a jack that simply plugs into the carr's lighter solves all the problems that "may" arise.
    Well stated "nkeen".

    John G.
    Springfield, OR.
  • blueroadblueroad Posts: 10
    Has anyone gone to the Bridgestone 960AS RFT from non-RFT? We had RFT on a 325 that became exceedingly noisy at 10,000, so we went to Michelins, got over 50,000 smooth miles, but now it's time to choose the replacement.
  • nkeennkeen Posts: 316
    edited April 2013
    The RE050 excels at dry handling and they're not bad in the wet. They have a really sharp turn-in too. When they are in their prime they really mean business, but they don't stay in their prime for long. I think the wear issue is more related to the no-compromise high performance nature of the tire -- their wear rating is a solid 140. The noise they make is like a rough, oscillating, grumbling rumble whose pitch varies with speed. It is independent of any road noise generated by varying road surfaces (milled concrete, etc.)

    I am loath to switch to a non-runflat as I believe that the car is engineered to work with the stiff sidewall of the RFT. I swap to 16" LM22 Blizzaks in the winter.
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,563
    The Michelin Pilot Sport ZP [ run flats ] are rated at 220.
    - Ray
    One data point...
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    edited April 2013
    I have Continentals ExtremeContact2 runflats..."

    My wife replaced the original Goodyear RFTs on her 05 Mini with those Continentals, and for the first 10K miles they held up well, and were mostly quiet.

    The next 20K was a totally different story, with extreme tire wear and noise, but there had been no change in driving habits. That's something I've seen with other RFTs as well as performance tires. Little evidence of wear for some period of time, and then a period of exponentially increasing tread wear.

    Fortunately, her Mini came with a spare, and I convinced her to go with a GFT setup this time. She ditched the Continental RFT "slicks" and I put a set of General GFT's on it. The tire noise is now 1/10 of what it was with the RFTs, and I can't see any difference in handling, other than the ride is much more pleasant now. BTW, neither of us are overly aggressive drivers, so one that routinely pushes the car's limits might feel differently...
  • skinhealerskinhealer Posts: 33
    edited April 2013
    Want to get new tires for my 328XI 2008 base model 205/55R1691H. It has about 67K miles. Don't want to get Run Flat Tires.

    Most of the time I am on the highway/city. (70/30).

    I am thinking of buying either a Bridgestone Turanza Serenity Plus or Michelin Primacy MXV4.
    They are both the same price.

    Please advise on which one to choose.
  • rflrfl Posts: 100
    Whenever you can buy a Michelin tire for the same price as a Bridgestone...it's a no brainer. Bridgestone makes and in my opinion has always made an inferior tire. (especially their run-flats) .Have you thought about Continentals?
  • I didn't know that Michelin was better than Bridgestone. I did want the conti's but that isn't available at the wholesale store where I want to go.

    Thank You for your input.
  • johnsamjohnsam Posts: 55
    Go Michelin.....Go Michilin

    I switched after RFTs for 2 Bimmers both new 3 Series cars.
    Finally smartened up and had Michilins installed keeping "donut" in trunk with all required tools to change tire (if necessary-----has not been necessary so far after 40,000+ miles on conventional Michilins.
    For the needed car jack, I opted for a power unit (from Harbor Freight Tools---RECOMMEND THERE JACK FULLY EVEN THOUGH IT IS DIRT CHEAP)
    Hope you are ultimately happy with your choice as I was.

    John
    Springfield, Oregon
  • reggie6reggie6 Posts: 26
    Hi. I had a 2007 328 xi coupe that I couldn't wait to change from run flats. I purchased a set of Conti's DWS. They were OUTSTANDING. Great grip in all weather ( Never took the car out in more that 4 inches of snow) and quiet. I purchased the BMW donut and jack kit , put it in my trunk and I never looked back. Only problem was that my son smashed the front end of the car about 6 months later, we ended up totalling the car because both airbags were set off and the damage was almost as much as the car's value to fix. Now I have the donut and jack kit ….but no car!!! Actually we replaced it with a BMW X3 and we are back to run flats again..
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