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BMW 3-Series Run Flat Tires

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  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Hmmm, 245/40 VR18s all of the way around? I'm thinking that those would be too wide to fit properly in the front wheel well.

    The two things that I can think of (trade-offs with both) are:
    1) You might want to consider is a set of GFTs in the OEM size. BlueGuyDotCom did this on his 330i SP (same size wheels and tires as your 335i) and was quite pleased with the results. Smoother ride and IMPROVED handling. The drawback(s)? No spare and no Run Flat capabilities. The compromise solution? A can goo that you shoot into the tire to temporarily plug the leak.
    2) The other option is to chuck the OEM rims and go with a set of 17s and either RFTs or GFTs. The taller sidewall will soften the ride (and opting for GFT 17s will soften it further). The drawback(s)? Slightly reduced handling (depends upon the tire sizes). Flat tire recovery same as option #1.

    Were I in your shoes, I might be tempted to buy a cheap set of Kumho ECSTA ASX tires in the OEM size (~$500 for the set) and give them a roll. Let us know what you decide. ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • webby1webby1 Posts: 209
    OW,

    I assume your '06 330xi has sport suspension and 17 " wheels ?

    Regards,
    Webby
  • webby1webby1 Posts: 209
    Thanks Shipo,

    "Hmmm, 245/40 VR18s all of the way around? I'm thinking that those would be too wide to fit properly in the front wheel well."

    BMW dealer thinks that it will fit but will not confirm until mounted.
    My concern is that the wheels are staggered...larger in the back. Same size tire (all 4 )but larger rims at the back...is that an issue ?

    Here is the response from the dealer:

    "The 245/40r18 has an approved rim width of between 8-9.5

    The 225/40r18 are 8.0

    The 255/35r18 are 8.5"
    Regards,
    Webby
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,156
    If you want to go with the same size all around.. you need 8.0" wheels with 225/40-18..

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  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,380
    Webby,

    Yes. 17 inch all around. There is no sport suspension offered on the xi model. 225/45 front/back.

    Regards,
    OW
  • If interested I have a set of 17" Wheel #161 with 1000 miles
    225/45/17 front, 245/40/17 rear Bridgestone REO50AII RFT for sale. These ride as well as 205/55/16.
  • webby1webby1 Posts: 209
    I would be interested in the wheels if they were all one size.
    Regards,
    Webby
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    I don't believe the wheel size is the issue (unless you try to rotate the tires by moving the wider wheels to the front), my concern really is that you might have 1) rubber hanging out beyond the fender, a condition that is illegal in some localities, and/or 2) the wider front tires might rub on the inner fender linings when the steering wheel is at either extreme.

    The question I have is, "Why do you want to mount 45 series tires all of the way around?" I seriously doubt that you're going to improve your ride at all if you use tires of the RFT variety, and if you aren't staying with RFTs, I suspect that you'd be better off (from both a ride and handling perspective) by staying with the OEM tire size.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • webby1webby1 Posts: 209
    My intention was to stay with Conti's Pro Contact.
    If you were selecting for 18 inch staggered wheels which tire combo would you select?

    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?make=Continental&model=ContiProContact&ti- rePageLocQty=

    Thanks and Regards,

    Webby
  • The wheels are staggered. 8" wide to fit the 225/45/17 front the rear are 8.5" wide to fit 255/40/17's. I'm selling the wheel/tire combo for about the cost of the tires alone.
  • BMW does offer the staggered wheel option on the xi model, its an additional $300.00 on top of the sp option.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    By the looks of it, you are intending on going with All-Season GFTs. Yes, no? In that case, I'd just go ahead and get the same size tires the car came with, just in the GFT flavor. As for the Continentals, personally I'm not much of a fan of them, I'd probably go with Kumhos instead, especially so as there isn't a single appropriately sized 18" Conti Pro for your car.

    FWIW, I just looked up the 245/40 VR18s and they have an outer diameter of 7/10ths of an inch greater than is called for on the 335i.

    I'm afraid I'm not being much help here. Sorry about that.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • webby1webby1 Posts: 209
    Thanks Shipo....yes, my intent was to go with GFT but the car that I intend to purchase...335I sedan with sport package comes with staggered 18 inch wheels...8 and 8.5 wide and RFT tires.
    Sorry for not being clear.
    Thanks and Regards,
    Webby,
    P.S. Perhaps I will just delay the purchase for another yr and stay with my perfect 2004 330i !
  • webby1webby1 Posts: 209
    "I'm selling the wheel/tire combo for about the cost of the tires alone"

    How much are you asking ?

    Thanks,
    Webby
  • Selling for $1000.00 plus S&H.
  • webby1webby1 Posts: 209
    I may be interested....how do I make contact with you ?
  • owner6owner6 Posts: 89
    Owner6 RFT Update, (orig mssg # 774)
    its been about 6 weeks and 3,000+ Miles later. The ContiPro RFT are great. Rain, snow, ice, 85 degree Fla weather, Sky Line Drive, PA Tpk, I-95 and its all wonderful, like driving my 2002 330 with more power.
    Good luck to you All.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    One of you needs to make your email address public in your profile so the other can reach you. Then you can go back and mark it private again if you want to.

    What you don't want to do is post out in the open any kind of contact information. :)
  • Webby

    Check my profile, I set up an a new Email address just to discuss this.
  • webby1webby1 Posts: 209
    E mail sent
  • kirkrkirkr Posts: 17
    Just took my 2006 325xi non-SP in for its first scheduled service at 19,700 miles by BMW dealer. (I change oil every 10,000 and rotate tires every 5,000). Asked them to check the scalloping on the EL42 tires(which in reality was not very bad). They told me all four tires needed to be replaced and would be done free labor and half price for tires. Asked if they would be EL42's again. They said probably Conti's because of backlog on EL42's. Cost is $200.00. Will post final result.

    Kirk
  • kirkrkirkr Posts: 17
    The dealership did replace my EL42's with Conti's according to January 2007 Tech Service Bulletin SI B 36 06 06 Wheels and Tires. I, fortunately, have an excellent dealership. I live 100 miles away from dealer. For all warranty work (oil sensor, HVAC problems) they pickup, leave me a Merc or BMW and return the car (washed) when done. All problems fixed to my satisfaction.

    Kirk
  • owner6owner6 Posts: 89
    I paid $430.00 4 tires 1/2 price and labor charge. Tires $85.00 each and $90.00 for mount and balance 4 tires.

    What was your price per tire?

    Please let me know.
    Owner6
  • kirkrkirkr Posts: 17
    My price was $65.50 per tire for 16" Continentals no charge for mounting and balancing. Total cost $262.00. The bulletin I listed in post #851 spelled out specifically how bad EL42's were to be handled. Hope this helps.

    Kirk
  • I find all of the complaints regarding the Bridgestone runflats very interesting. I took my 2006 330i in for 15K mile service this past weekend with only 13,500 miles. I was advised by the dealer to replace all 4 of my Bridgestone RFT for $1,400.00 US. Dealer said the lifespan for these tires is not more than 12K and it's the only option that will eleviate the loud noise and the car pulling to the left, as if I needed a wheel alignment.

    The noise is so loud that I thought I had a trans or drive train problem, but what do I know? I certainly didn't expect the noise to be tire noise as loud as it is.

    Of course the dealer didn't offer any concessions to me and I told him I would get back to him after I did some research because I didn't want the same tires put back on the car. At times, I must admit, the car feels unstable and can really make me feel nervous even though I've been driving BMWs since 1978 and have never experienced anything like this tire issue. I'm hoping that when I respond to the dealer with all of the complaint knowledge I've gained from everyone who responded on this site, he will offer me the same cost savings and replacement tires (Conti) as many of you have received. My thoughts were that $1400 for tires at 13,500 miles is a bit much since I bought the car May 30, 2005 when the new 3 series made its debut. Not a lot of driving performed to have to replace all 4 tires.

    Thanks for sharing. I have a lot of years and great driving with BMW's 3 series and 5 series cars. I hope BMW doesn't screw things up with this tire issue. They should step up to the plate and recognize the problem to promote excellent customer satisfaction, instead of running away from the problem.

    Thanks to all for sharing your experience.

    dgibson43
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Assuming that you don't have a car with the Sport Package, have your dealer look up TSB SI B 36 06 06 published in January of 2007. If that's the case, BMW will partially offset the cost of new skins for your car.

    That said, if you have a car with the Sport Package, well, the new rubber is all on our nickel.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • owner6owner6 Posts: 89
    I checked with the Service manager at my BMW dealer in Rehobeth Beach Delaware. He informed me the 225/45/17 are more expensive then your 205/55/16. he said your dealer "ATE" the labor cost for you.

    Owner6.
  • Hi shipo ...

    I was thinking that today was my lucky day. I was told, about 2 weeks ago, that I need to replace 4 of my tires on my 2006 330i (w/Sport Package) - at a price of $1500. Given that I only have 16K miles, needless to say, I was NOT HAPPY. Then, I found this forum, and another on automotive.com discussing the issues with the RF tires and thought - hey, this is a common issue - and I might not have to pay full price. Then I read your post regarding cars with the sport package.

    Why are Sport Package tires exempt from this "issue"?

    I have Bridgestone Potenza's (front: 225-40 R18 88w rear: 255-35 R18 90w).

    I'm a 40 something single Mom who finally got to drive her dream car and now Im wishing that I never did it because I just cannot afford $1500 per year for tires!!!

    Can you fill me in on the Sport Package comment?

    Thanks,

    Deb
  • 16k miles on a performance sedans tires sounds normal to me. Shrug.

    So just get go-flats. 4 tires installed from tirerack.com will run you about $600. I did it last year. 8k miles on my current set and they should hopefully last me at least another 10k.
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