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BMW 3-Series Run Flat Tires

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  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,253
    I saw all 4 tires on a 2004 Volvo C70 mostly driven in NYC with bubbles on every tire, both sidewalls. The car had around 20-25K miles. They, indeed were low profile tires, as you pointed out, but I do not recall the brand. There was at least 40% tread life on those tires. It was the first and last time I saw anything like that. These were GFT's.

    Regards,
    OW
  • So here's the deal my the runflats on my 330i:

    1. I haven't inspected the INSIDE sidewalls, so don't know what's going on there.

    2. Spoke with the nearby BMW dealership and they tell me bubbles are likely impact damage and, in all events, the tires are not covered by the BMW warranty, and instead I need to talk to Bridgestone.

    3. Spoke with BMW corporate and they tell me that I need to talk with Bridgestone.

    4. Spoke with Bridgestone and they said only 1% of tires are defective and that therefore my bubbles are cause by either impact damage (curbs, potholes, etc.) or mounting damage. They said I would have to take the car to a Bridgestone dealer and have the tires removed and inspected, but most likely they would determine that they are not covered by a warranty.

    This strikes me as ridiculous. I have four tires with bubbles. My coworkers who drive the same roads do not have damaged tires. Obviously something is wrong with these tires.

    Has anyone been successful in dealing with a situation like this?
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,253
    IMO, its probably not worth your time/stress...replace with Continental SSR's. These are good tires I have 10K on them now and they are quiet, handle better than the BS and wearing very well and even. $146 at Tirerack.com.

    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Continental&model=ContiProContact+S- SR

    Regards,
    OW
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    The 330i that milesontime has the problems with has the Sport Package, and I don't believe that Continental has a low profile RFT that fits the rear wheels of that car.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,253
    My bad. I would hate to recommend the BS again...any other options?

    Regards,
    OW
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "...any other options?"

    Well, as you and anybody who's even partially followed this discussion for a while knows (I assume that milesontime is a relatively new member which is why I'm making this post), I would suggest that milesontime buy four new GFTs and a can of Spare Tire in a Can or the Continental ContiComfortKit.

    http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/conticomfortkit/index.jsp

    I don't know if this is a solution that is acceptable for our new member, but there it is. ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • I'm not a fan of the Bridgestone RFT, as some will know from previous posts, but I do come to the defence of the need to check if it is 'impact' damage. Having spent time with a Bridgestone engineer, it is clear that many users run the tyres 'low' on pressure, to try and improve the ride quality. This is a main cause of premature wear and also can contribute to impact/pinch damage. So it can be common for more than one tyre to be damaged on a particular vehicle. What pressures are you running?

    HighlandPete
  • dkg42dkg42 Posts: 11
    BMW is replacing defective bridgestone EL42 RFT's no charge for tires with less than 10k miles..50/50 split 10k-20k. It cost me $350 for 4 new EL42s..

    Keep screaming at the dealership, keep calling BMW corporate to complain and file a complaint with you State Attorneys General, consumer afairs fraud division..make noise it helps
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    In this case I'm highly skeptical that it will help. The fact of the matter is that milesontime does NOT have the defective EL42s. The other fact is that low profile tires are far more susceptible to road damage than the touring tires you have on your car, BMW even says so in all of their sales literature. More or less their warnings say that by buying the SP, you will get better handling at the expense of being far more vulnerable to tire and wheel damage from road hazards.

    If, and I need to stress if, there are signs that these tires were damaged due to road hazards, and/or low inflation pressures, there is no way BMW or Bridgestone should be on the hook for new tires. You pays your money, you takes your chance.

    The flip side of course is that IF both the inside AND the outside sidewalls are blistered (if it's just the outside sidewall, then that indicates encounters with curbs and such), AND IF the inside blisters aren't directly across from from an outside blister (which would indicate an encounter with a pot-hole or other road hazard), then anybody would have a very difficult time convincing me that these tires aren't defective.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • badbeatbadbeat Posts: 5
    These may indeed be impact bubbles.

    On past cars I've owned, I've had situations where large potholes caused bubbles on two tires at once, especially on those with low profile tires. I don't know if you hit a lot of potholes, but it very well could be impact damage and not defective tires.

    That said, I think these tires are crap, but the complaints that I've been hearing on these are related to premature tread wear.
  • dean112dean112 Posts: 2
    I could use a little help with the purchase of new tires. I have a 2006 BMW 330xi with 28,000 miles and currently have Bridgestone Turanza RFT 225/45/R17. I hate my current tires as the noise is awful and any pot hole or crack in the road feels like the world is going to end.

    I live in Chicago and this is my only car so I definitly need all season tires. I'm not a car guy but I would like my new tires to not make any road noise and a softer ride so I don't feel like my car is going to fall apart when I go over a bump.

    Any help would be appreciated.
  • dglassmdglassm Posts: 9
    I would recommend the Michelin Pilot Sport or Axalto great tires , in fact being used for the 2008 M3 (Sport). Why BMW insists on putting these bogus tires (rft) on the 3 beats me .
    If these tires and its associated spareless world are so great then why no rft in m3 and 5 series ?
  • rflrfl Posts: 100
    I put a set of Conti Pro Contact's on my 2006 330xi and am totally pleased. Quieter, don't lose nearly as many fillings when I hit a bump and they're going on 17000 miles with little tread wear showing. Best of the evils ! BTW...will NEVER buy another car with RFT's and no spare. I hear rumor that BMW is going to make them optional on the 2009 model year... it would be the ONLY reason I'd ever reconsider another BMW. FYI...my dealer replaced the horrid Bridgestone's at 4000 miles at NO CHARGE.
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,253
    Ditto on the Conti's. Actually, because of the performance of these tires, I am having less of a problem accepting the run flat scenario. Believe me, I know where you are coming from. My first flat when the car had about 5K miles was a horror show that cost me over $300 when all was said and done.

    Continental RFT replacements for the 3'ers with 17" rims have comparable cost with GFT for the all-season tires.

    I do completely agree that ALL car companies that adopt this should have an option to keep the spare tire if so chosen by the customer. I assume RFT's will grow more prevalent throughout the auto world quite soon.

    Hopefully, they go back to dip sticks at BMW as well! :cry:

    Regards,
    OW
  • badbeatbadbeat Posts: 5
    I would highly recommend the Nokian WR. I have them on my '07 328xi. They give great foul weather performance and have significantly cut down on the shocks from bumps that I experienced with the Turanzas. They're somewhat expensive (around $180 per tire on tiresbyweb.com), but worth it.
  • bemerbemer Posts: 20
    Do you have RFT or GFT? RFT's are $244.00 for 225/45R17....
    http://www.tiresbyweb.com/pc-6631-128-nokian-wr.aspx

    http://www.tiresbyweb.com/pc-6631-128-nokian-wr.aspx
    Does anybody has any expierience with Nokian RFT?
  • dean112dean112 Posts: 2
    Everyone seems to think the continental tires are the way to go. Most people have suggested the contipro-contact or the contipro-contact SSR, which is the RFT model. Does anyone prefer either model or have experience on either one?
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,253
    Conti RFT's are great by me. I would buy these again, No question.

    Regards,
    OW
  • jasondjasond Posts: 28
    I'm posting here even though my question is not about RFT. I could not find another active site for BMW tire discussions in the forums. I have a 2003 BMW 330xi without the sports package. It has about 14,000 miles on it. It came equipped with Continental ContiTouring Contact CV95 tires (205/50R 17 93V). I have been satisfied with the ride. The tires have not worn too well, however, and my BMW dealer recommends replacing them with the same tire now (i.e. after about 4 years). When I have looked up reviews at Discount Tire and Tire Rack most buyers have found that these tires (i.e. the Continentals) don't wear well, as has been my experience. The Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S Tire is very well reviewed by buyers. Tire Rack offers it for the BMW, but Discount Tire does not even list it for the BMW. My BMW dealership states that the Michelin is not a recommended tire for my 2003 330xi and that I might not be satisfied with how it runs on the car despite all the good reviews with other vehicles. Does anyone have any thoughts on this matter? Should I stay with the original tire that came with the car i.e. the Continentals or try a Michelin or any other tire that you can recommend? Thanks, Jason
  • kod1kod1 Posts: 2
    I just took my BMW in for service with 21000 miles stating it was very loud riding. They explained that my run flats are due to be replaced. The cost of replacing them is $995, This is a crime, I am advising anyone who looks to purchase a car with these tires DO NOT DO IT.

    They are loud, offer less mileage, can not be plugged you must purchase new ones. The will however sell you a warrantee for them for $779!!!! normal wear not included.

    I guess my questions when looking at a new car and it will not be a BMW ( Owned 7 and now done )will involved they tires.
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