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BMW 3-Series Run Flat Tires

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  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,262
    Here's the article

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/automobiles/20TIRES.html?_r=1&ref=automobiles&- oref=slogin

    Honda still recommend using RFT to preserve ride quality, however.

    Regards,
    OW
  • 330cic330cic Posts: 8
    I'm thinking that a spare would take up too much room in the trunk when I put the top down. That kind of negates the advatage of having a spare. Anyone with a 'vert that has gone to GFT's and a spare? If so, does the spare take up too much room when the top's down?
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Interesting that NY Times is just now picking this up as this is rather old news.

    http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef3f1cf/1221

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • hayes9hayes9 Posts: 3
    Jeff, this is not in the magazine, but on the electronic Consumer Reports for the reliability of "upscale cars". The Acura TSX is rated highest and the Mercedes C-class is lowest. The i is rated above average and the xi is rated average. On a scale from -80 to +80 there is roughly 20 points between the 2 models. Not one of the owners of a xi that I personally know ever mentioned an AWD problem to me. Also, there has been no mention of reliability issues with the xi on the BMW forums. Just as CR has been MIA on the RFT problems, it may well be that they are being hyper-vigilant on AWD systems for sedans. Hayes
  • boskiboski Posts: 4
    I live in Mexico, the land of no speed limits (hehehe) and if it wasn't for the electronic speed governor the only thing I would change on my RFT tires is the letter from "U" to "Y" .
    My front tire blew up at 120mpg and other than some vibration , noise and increase in my heart rate, my 328xi did not loose stability, actually I took another mile or so to safely bring it to stop. I don't care if I have to change my tires once a year, as far as I'm concerned, they saved my life. Paid $40,000 for the car, free 4 year service, what's another $1000 a year ?
    Anybody knows how to dissable the speed governor ?
  • bmwtech1bmwtech1 Posts: 1
    I have worked for BMW in Charlotte for five years the last year and half I've been doing tires. They had just started using conti ssr when I started doing tires I've replaced 2 sets of 16" around twenty five thousand and 1 set of 17" around twenty two thousand for beeing worn out.None of them checked pressures or rotated tires on a regular basis.So if you take care of them they should last you a long time and they do not get noisey.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "None of them checked pressures or rotated tires on a regular basis."

    Last time I checked, the regular basis for tire rotations on late model BMWs is never. :P

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • larry175larry175 Posts: 68
    I rotated my tires every 4 to 5000 miles and the air pressure was always checked on a weekly basis and you are right the treadwear was excelent but the NOISE. The NOISE is unreal. And when you hit a bump or hole in the road you lose all the filling in your teeth. The best thing I did was to get rid of the rfts at 22000 miles.
  • dohrmcdohrmc Posts: 14
    I have no idea how many owners have been bothered or inconvienced by BMW's run flat tire policy. I would think this would make a great story for one of the auto enthusiast magazines like Car and Driver, Road and Track, Automobile or the internet magazine, Winding Road. I would almost think that Consumer Reports would jump on something like this. Are the Germans getting any feedback that this is not a good policy for a big country like this? The question is, do they care? Probably not, as long as lines of people line up to buy their cars who don't know anything about BMWs except that they are the auto equivalent of of a Rolex watch.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,210
    ". . .the auto enthusiast magazines like Car and Driver, Road and Track, Automobile or. . ."

    The odds that any of these would risk enduring the wrath of BMW (& their advertising dollars) with an article of this sort is somewhere between slim & none. That's a lot of why these car rags are so, so useful in terms of real critical review. Stats -- sure. Useful value judgements -- not so much.
  • stephendstephend Posts: 19
    I am looking to purchase the 335xi. But I am concern about the rft based on different posting. I would have all season tires on the car. How much has manufacturing of RFT improved over the year? Should I switch to GFT? Could you put GFT on the rims that came with the RFTs?

    Thanks,
    sk
  • rflrfl Posts: 100
    If BMW were the automotive equivalent it would be a highly polished vehicle that ran poorly..... just as Rolex's do. They are great looking status symbols but none of them keep good time!
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Hmmm, that's odd, all three of my Rolexs keep perfect time, including the one built in 1939. :)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • rprice1rprice1 Posts: 9
    I own a 325i (2006) and recently replaced my Bridgestone RFTs with GFTs (Michelin Pilot Sport PS). The improvement has been huge in respect to the harshnes of the ride and general handling. The car now feels and drives in the way one would expect from a BMW.

    rprice
  • dohrmcdohrmc Posts: 14
    i am wearing the Rolex I bought as a lieutenant in SE Asia in 1970. I have worn it every day since then. It has been maintained, but it keeps perfect time.
  • spinner4spinner4 Posts: 1
    I have a 2006 325 xi with RFT tires that made it to 26,000 miles. The front tires took a beating since I live on a bit of a hill with winding roads. Most miles were on interstate which explains the 26k. BMW service agent told me when I bought the car not to expect much longevity if I lived in the westhills of Portland, OR. They are noisy. Can't really carry on a conversation with someone while out on the highway. That's bad news. I replaced the Bridgestones yesterday with a set of non-RFT Toyo Proxes 4s. At first feel, I like the handling on the OEM Bridgestones better, but the Toyos are quiet and smooth, if not as responsive. With the Toyos the car is like an entirely different vehicle--for good or bad. I not sure the Toyos were the best choice. I'm getting a ContiComfortKit in case in need to rescue myself. I travel across eastern Montana and western South Dakota (somewhat desolate) a couple times a year and always had a concern about service if I got a RFT flat. All problems and issues are hopefully now solved. BMW needs to reevaluate the RFT policy.
  • lehrer1lehrer1 Posts: 54
    "All problems and issues are hopefully now solved. BMW needs to reevaluate the RFT policy."
    RFT was (is) a stupid decision, but a spare will require significant redesign of the car and expensive retooling. We might see a space for the spare only in new models.
    Lehrer
  • upnorth2upnorth2 Posts: 12
    My 10 month old ( 14000 miles ) 328xi got a nail in the rear run flat tire and I sent my wife to get it fixed at the BMW dealer. I was shocked when she arrived home with TWO NEW TIRES at a cost of $780..They told her BMW does not recommend patching the run flats and because of the slight wear on the rear tires, the on board computer would be thrown off if we didnt replace both rear tires. Needless to say I was pissed. I will NEVER use run flats again. Other than this , we love the car and especially enjoy the 6 speed trans. My car is a 911 and I am impressed with the handling and smoothness of the BMW.
  • dohrmcdohrmc Posts: 14
    What liars they are!!!! It is a crying shame horsewhipping no longer has the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval.
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,262
    I just bought 4 new Continental ContiProContact SSR's at my beloved tire dealer. The cost for mounting, balancing and valves was exactly $780, including tax. Never buy tires from the BMW dealer. (330xi 225/45 R17).

    Regards,
    OW
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