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Mid-size High Performance 5 Door Hatchback Recommendations Wanted



  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,278
    It can be argued if the 2006 A3 is a first year model or not. It is definitely the first year model for the US spec and US version. How much different it is from other continents' A3's is a matter of opinion.
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,747
    A Pity there is no exact comparative list showing the differences between Euro and US versions.

    C&D May pretty much tore Caliber apart, feeling it needed a lot more development. The SRT-4 version, they were much happpier with, but felt at present it may not be suitable for racing because it sits higher off the ground than the SRT-4 coupe did.

    The 3.2 A3 they liked the handling of, but bemoaned the weight increase and gasped at its cost. They also were hoping the new VW R32 currently in Europe would make it over here without waiting for the 2008 Golf redesign.

    Hope Edmunds will have its own comparo soon. :D
  • allhorizonallhorizon Posts: 483
    Current indication is that there will be approximately 5000 US R32 starting this fall, likely with DSG, perhaps 5-door. Manufacturing costs do not allow much of a variation in terms of transmissions or number of doors. Ths is a one-time shot before the Wolfsburg plant changes over to the MkVI platform (which may allow a R36 in the future).
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,747
    Sounds like a repeat of the last time VW did the R32 exercise, only now with a newer model.
  • allhorizonallhorizon Posts: 483
    Yeah, I don't know why they don't make it a regular staple item. The profit margin certainly is high enough to alleviate any fears of negative impact from Audi cross-shopping. And interest is high, especially after the great Top Gear video and results.

    By the way, in this never-ending saga, manual rather than DSG may be on the horizon, and the 5-door thing may be out unless they can somehow wring out an additional 5000 units or so.

    Also, I would not underestimate the "only now with a newer model" part. From all reviews I have seen, this is a phenomenal handler. Although I still think the 3.2 is somewhat outdated, and would have preferred either an upgraded 2.0TFSI or the 3.6 FSI VR6. :shades:
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,747
    new R32 sounds nice, but lack of DSG option (if that happens)is minus. Will be interesting to see if VW mandates XM or Sirrus with its options for that one.

    The 3.6 FSI or updated 3.2 with FSI would have been better choice for A3 3.2, given C&D found the current 3.2's not much quicker than the 2.0T.
  • allhorizonallhorizon Posts: 483
    VW/Audi have signed an exclusive deal with Sirius.

    The required beefed up transmission for the 3.6 doesn't currently fit into the MkV platform. Since the MkVI is only 2 years away, for those that can wait there are better things on the horizon.

    I still find it mind-boggling that the AWD/2.0TFSI combo is not available on any VW/Audi product - and the first one that get's to the US may be the heaviest of the bunch ... the Passat...
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,747
    Did some visiting of the new Edmunds TrueCostToOwn feature and found the A3 cost $12K more to own and run over its 5 year rating period than the somewhat similar '06 VW GTI cost.

    Any comments? I did find their insurance pricing was somewhat off wrt my provider.
  • allhorizonallhorizon Posts: 483
    I got about a $9000 difference - and much of that due to the fact that Edmunds assumes the A3 insurance is more than twice as high as that of the GTI, which is clearly not the case. Time to inform Edmunds about their inconsistencies?
  • SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
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  • Hi all,

    Need your advice. I have scratched my car against a pillar about 1 month ago. The scratch is 2 feet long. No significant dents but the scratch is pretty deep such that the metal is exposed. It is a leased toyota matrix with 6 months lease remaining.

    I am in a dilemma as to which is now the best action to take. Received 4 auto body quotations and the price for painting the quarter panel and the rear door range from $700 to $1200. What is considered to be a reasonable price?

    As it seems that the paint job is quite expensive, i am tempted to do a paint job myself using the paint brush. Am sure the end result will look horrible as i have never done a car paint job before. And I am not sure what repercussions will there be if i decide to return a scratched car at the end of the car lease.

    So should i do the paint job myself or send it to an auto body shop? If you recommend to the latter, would also highly appreciate it if you could also recommend a reliable auto body shop. :confuse:

    thanks for your advice! :)
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,278
    True, my insurance for the 2.0T A3 is like that of a family wagon, not a sport car. It's extremely low, lower than wife's Civic.
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