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Honda Accord (1990-1993) Maintenance and Repair

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  • austinman7austinman7 Posts: 313
    Hey, thanks for all the good background information. I'll save it in case I wind up buying the one I drove the other day, or if I run into the same issues with another one.
  • dexter6dexter6 Posts: 1
    I have a 1990 Accord EX 2.2. I have replaced both rear wheel cylinders, the Master, inspected for leaks, bled the system and replaced the pads, and the right front wheel bearing. However, when I turn all-the-way left or right the pedal goes to the floor and I loose all braking ability. When I straighten the wheel I get full pedal pressure and good brakes. I am stumped. Please help.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116
    That sounds like a bad line to one of the front wheels. I would check the connection to the caliper and where the soft line connects to the hard line. You might also want ot check all the clips that hold the soft line in place going to the wheel.
  • austinman7austinman7 Posts: 313
    Well, if anyone's interested, I got my answer to the question about replacing the motorized shoulder belt with a normal belt anchored on the side. Honda won't do it, as a matter of policy, since it involves a safety issue originally designed into the car.

    So, my search for a good used Accord will continue, focusing now on the 1992-93 models that have airbags instead.

    Also, I asked the body shop about fixing the rusted areas in the rear quarter panels at the front of the wheel housing, that showed up on the one I drove the other day. He said he'd do it, but not warranty it, since it tends to come back, sooner rather than later. Just wondering if any of you have had any luck fixing this problem in a more permanent way.

    Thanks.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116
    Also, I asked the body shop about fixing the rusted areas in the rear quarter panels at the front of the wheel housing, that showed up on the one I drove the other day. He said he'd do it, but not warranty it, since it tends to come back, sooner rather than later. Just wondering if any of you have had any luck fixing this problem in a more permanent way.

    Once rust is there, there is very little that can be done to get rid of it. I would suggest searching for vehicles in climates less prone to rust/corrosion. This also makes maintenance much easier.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Yes, shop for cars here in the south. It is very rare to see a car with rust here in Alabama. I have an 11 year old Honda with absolutely no rust to be found.
  • cafetomcafetom Posts: 4
    Hello there,

    I apologize for jumping into this thread, but I am having a similar issue.

    on my 1992 accord LX, I just replaced my rotors, calipers, pads, ball joints, control arms, sway bar ends, and front wheel bearings. PHEW.

    I bled the front brakes and everything seemed to be going well. Suddenly, about 2 days after getting it all together, my brakes go to the floor, and there are NO leaks.

    The auto shop wants to sell me hoses, and I just don't see anything wrong with them. They don't bulge.

    Then they said that I need to bleed the rear passenger, then the front driver, then rear driver, and front passenger. Does this sound right as a possible problem?

    Did that person who started this thread have to replace their Master Cylinder?

    Also, the link you provided for bleeding brakes doesn't work. I am wondering if there is some mid-point bleeding needed?

    Tom
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    If your brake fluid has never been changed (it should be changed every 3 years), you probably finished off your master cylinder when you bled the brakes.
  • cafetomcafetom Posts: 4
    thank you.

    Last time the brakes were touched was in 2001. Okay then. :)

    Can you give me the link to bleeding the brakes?

    Tom
  • cafetomcafetom Posts: 4
    Sorry my friend. It doesn't appear that this link is good. Can you try it and let me know?

    Tom
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    It works when I click on it. Maybe try copy and paste.
  • austinman7austinman7 Posts: 313
    That's an idea -- thanks.

    And to thegraduate in Alabama -- just send one of those rust-free 1992 or 1993 models, with low mileage of course, up to me in Kentucky, and all will be well. :)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    austinman7,

    My mom had a 1993 Accord EX. It was immaculate. No door dings at all over 7 years we had the thing (110k miles). We sold it on our Odyssey.

    It was honestly the best car my family EVER had. No rattles. No repairs. No problems at ALL.

    If I could, I might would trade my 1996 LX Accord for it today. I grew up in that car (the '93)!

    Good luck on your quest for a 92-93 with less than 200k miles though. Remember, we're talking cars that are 15 years old now. RELIABLE ones! :)
  • austinman7austinman7 Posts: 313
    thegraduate,

    As a certain ex-president used to say, I can feel your pain about letting that '93 EX get away from you.

    Your comments confirm my impressions from driving the '90 LX the other day. In spite of its slight front end vibrations, it was amazingly smooth and quiet at 70 mph. It just seemed so well put together, and this was a 167,000 mile car that needed a little TLC.

    I liked everything about it (except the mouse belt). The low cowl, the seating position, plenty of headroom. And the body design itself is very appealing to me. I think Honda just "got it right" on this generation. I envy those of you with a real nice model from this generation.

    I'm also driving some cars from the 1994-97 era, which I see you now have. Are you happy with that one? What would you say are the main differences from the 90-93 gen to the 94-97 generation, especially in terms of the "fun to drive" quotient?

    I'm driving an '04 Accord sedan, and my son has a '98 coupe with about 140,000 miles that we bought new for him, and it's still tight as a drum. But among those four generations, I'm still liking the '90 I drove.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116
    I liked the low hoodline of the 90-93 Accord, personally. I think it was tighter, lighter, and feels more responsive to me from a handling standpoint. I also like the interior better, and felt the greenhouse afforded better visibility.

    The 94-95/6 was available with VTEC (as was the '93 elsewhere), had a larger interior and trunk, and felt like it had a bit more shoulder room in the back. The later ones also had dual airbags vs the single driver airbag on the 92-93.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    I still miss my first two Hondas. :cry:
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  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    Excellent taste on the apprx. 1985 bike. You shoulda got the V65 Sabre. They have a front fender spoiler. :)
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    1985 bike. You shoulda got the V65 Sabre.

    You guessed it, 85. But the Shadow was fast enough for my first bike. I miss the car, more than the bike.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Before our beloved 1993 (maroon) we had a "Rosewood" '92 model identical to that one!

    AUSTINMAN,

    I never drove the 1993 (I was 13 when we got rid of it), but my 1996 is still lots of fun, if not particularly fast (its the 130 hp LX, non-VTEC version). At about 2,800 lbs, it's more spry than my 2006 EX, however. With new shocks (mine have 173k miles on them) I imagine it would be a real fun ride!). I love my 1996, and it has been a wonderful first car for me. The best part is that it still gets 28 MPG in my mixed hwy/city commute. Can't ask for much more from a 12 year old car.
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    I think you should reconsider getting a second,older car "just for fun". Calculate the additional annual cost of the older car. Surely you can find something better and more fun to do with the $ in Austin. No offense,just my .02.
  • austinman7austinman7 Posts: 313
    blufz1,

    Well, if I lived in Austin you'd probably have a point, but here in Kentucky all there is to do is sit on the veranda, sip our mint juleps and wait for next year's Derby. ;)

    Hey, give me a break -- Edmunds is a place for people with above average interest in cars, right? I confess, that's me. :)
  • austinman7austinman7 Posts: 313
    lilengineerboy,

    Thanks for your perspective on the 94-97 gen, which I'm looking at, but the overall design just doesn't appeal to me like the 90-93 gen.

    I agree with all your points about the 90-93 models.
  • austinman7austinman7 Posts: 313
    thegraduate,

    Sounds like you have a nice 1996 model and are quite happy with it. As I said in the above post, I'm driving a few of those too, but the 90-93 gen has the styling appeal to me. Interesting that your 1996 Accord seems quicker than the 2006. Maybe the weight difference accounts for that.
  • djkotodjkoto Posts: 1
    I have a chance to get a 93 accord and VERY good aesthetic condition that runs well. the problem is I dont know much about cars and how long they can go, and it has 210k miles. I know any other car would probably blow up tomorrow with that millage, but does this accord still have enough life to get me to work and sometimes road trips?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,044
    That's impossible to answer. Statistically, the car is finished...that's the normal lifespan (and then some) for just about any car built on earth. But if it had excellent care, or perhaps a rebuild at some point, who knows how far it might go? Generally the bottom ends of those engines can last quite a while, but head gaskets and valves and camshafts can be pretty tired by 200K. When they talk about an engine "blowing up", it's usually not a thrown rod or bad crankshaft, it's usually a head gasket, or oil starvation and seizing because the engine has burned oil for so long and somebody forgot to check oil level. Also oil pumps can fail, etc.

    All I CAN say with some assurance is that you should pay very very little for a car with 210K miles on it, because you are in a high risk situation. Certainly not anything close to "book" value.

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  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Interesting that your 1996 Accord seems quicker than the 2006. Maybe the weight difference accounts for that.

    Well, I didn't mean faster, just a little "lighter on its feet" when handling curves. It drives like a compact (which it is) while the 06 drives like a larger yet-still-excellent vehicle. The 2006 is definitely the speed AND economy champ though (that 2.4L is freakin' fantastic!).

    To clarify the weight/power issue, the 1996 Accord has 21.96 lb for each horsepower (2855 lbs, 130 hp), while the 2006 has only 19.26 lb for each horsey (3,200 lbs, 166 hp). Basically, my 2006 is as fast with 500 lbs on board as my 1996 is empty.
  • miyage007miyage007 Posts: 5
    I just signed in on this awsome site and maybe someone can help me with this problem. My 1990 Ex Accord just started making buzzing/clicking noise when the car is running and discovered that its coming from the return signal/hazzard relay.

    I replaced it but clicking noise is still there. Signalling to the left or right seems to work normally. Its pretty anoying when you have to go for a long drive. I also got the feeling that the relay itself will eventually die from this. Does the signal handle itself causing this? Maybe its worn? Anyone here has any idea on how to resolve this?
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    So,then,they don't have nice restaurants in Kentucky? :)
  • austinman7austinman7 Posts: 313
    Hmmmm...not sure how to relate eating out to the subject of my (obviously satiric) post. But we do have nice places to eat out, as you do everywhere. Of course, we practically invented gourmet dining, aka KFC. ;)
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