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Honda Accord (1998-2002) Maintenance and Repair



  • user777user777 Posts: 3,341
    i think that these quick change places are going to try very hard to upsell you on additional things you don't need. i don't see how they can make $$$ charging $12 (?).

    no, if you go into an auto-supply store, expect to pay about $2.00 to $2.50 for a quart of name-brand 5W-20 oil. you'll need to buy about 5.

    for a good oil filter, expect to pay $6.00 to $10.00.

    i believe shops have to pay disposal fees they pass along to the consumer, so $12 just doesn't mathematically add up.

    i want to say, for the oil (Castrol or Penzoil) and filter (Mobil1) I purchase, it costs a DIYer like me $24-$26 for each change. no, i don't use a new compressible ring for the drain plug each time, but I think honda dealers do. that must add a half-dollar or so.

    then there is time.

    i value my time... so i do it myself. ;) actually, it gives me a chance to look at stuff on the underside of the cars on a periodic basis, and I KNOW what is going into the vehicle and that I'M getting a new filter.

    a dealership is supposed to do a multi-point inspection as well.

    to each his own.
  • 02 accord w/130K miles 5 speed
    I am looking for some inf=sight as to what should I do in this case. I took my car for an oil change and I asked if they see any leaks, because I saw some oli for some time where the engine and the transmission meet. The dealer quote was:

    Rear main seal leak : $900
    Oil pan gasket leak: $290 ( even though I have replaced this gasket 1 1/2 years ago by a different dealer)
    They also suggested doing a power steering flush for $120 and a BG fuel induction service for $ 150 !!!! ( i know this service = $$$ in the dealer's pocket)

    Is this a reasonable price for fixing the leaks? and is it possible the oil pan gasket that I replaced has gone bad?
    I called another dealer inquiring about a power steering flush, and they told me that they don't do it , as it is not recommended by Honda,
    Last time I flushed the power steering was at 64K, so should I do this or not?

    any comments or suggestions are highly appreciated.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,353
    It is highly unlikely anyone is going to use a torque wrench on an oil pan plug. I'm sure if I looked it up there is probably a torque value listed but this isn't critical.

    Just make sure it's snugged up and don't over tighten it.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,353
    Well, in my experience some technicians think every car should be perfect. It's a six year old car with a ton of miles on it.

    Is it dripping in your driveway? Do you have to add oil?

    If not, I would just keep an eye on it. Thre is a big difference between a gasket or seal that "seeps" a bit and one that really leaks.

    And I wouldn't do a flush or the fuel injection service either.

    Now, if you haven't replaced your timing belt, you are overdue. this I would do without delay.
  • is it dripping in your driveway?
    a few drops after I park the car, which leads me that it is leaking a few here and there while driving. My commute is 90 miles/day!!

    Do you have to add oil? I add around a quart of oil every 3000-4000 miles. The timing belt +water pump was done at 105K miles.

    so do you suggest the leak is not severe enough to replace the rear main seal? I'd like to keep the car for another 100K miles if I could and all my driving is highway which is not wearing the engine that much. Yes, its a 6yr old car with tons of miles, but they're all highway miles and it a Honda ! :)
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    If the oil was leaking enough to where I had to add oil between oil changes, I would have that fixed, especially if you want to keep the car for another 100k miles. It's not going to get better, only worse.
  • first of all thanks [isellhondas] and [elroy5] for your comments...
    elroy5, just to confirm what you said, so if I had to add half to 3/4 a quart every 4000 miles ( my average oil change interval), then you recommend replacing the seal? If I'm doing this type of work, should I ask them to assess the condition of the clutch plate, pressure plate...etc?
    Going back to the oil leak, as far as I can see, I see several drops of oil after I get home and park the car, so I assume the oil is leaking while I was driving?
    Regarding the power steering fluid, the Dealer said it is low and contaminated :confuse: and they recommended a flush. Another dealer said don't touch it. I guess it'll be alright if we just add some PS fluid and call it a night? I know [isellhondas] said not to change it, what do you recommend?
    I know I am throwing a lot of curve balls out there, but I just want to make a sound decision about these issues.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,353
    I didn't say not to CHANGE the power steering fluid although I don't think this is part of Honda's maintenance schedule.

    I said I wouldn't FLUSH it. to me, flush means removing the old fluid under pressure and replacing it. Personally, I would probably just leave it alone.

    OK, if it is leaking bad enough to drip on your driveway than that rear main seal and oil pan gasket need to be replaced. I've never heard of having to replace a rear main seal on a Honda but I guess they can go bad. ALL highway miles, huh? That sounds familiar. :)

    And, yes, it's a Honda and it can easily go another 100,000 miles and more.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    If I'm doing this type of work, should I ask them to assess the condition of the clutch plate, pressure plate...etc?

    It would be a good idea to check it while it's apart. I think that would be automatically done, if it's a reputable shop. I would be hesitant in suggesting they do anything extra though (kind of like giving them a way to pad the bill) so that's your call.

    Regarding the power steering fluid, the Dealer said it is low and contaminated and they recommended a flush. Another dealer said don't touch it. I guess it'll be alright if we just add some PS fluid and call it a night? I know [isellhondas] said not to change it, what do you recommend?

    The price was $170, correct? That is outrageous for that simple procedure (unless it's a lot harder on an 02 than an 03, which I doubt). If they are going to charge you over $100, tell them to shove it, IMO.
  • tylerptylerp Posts: 1
    where is the windshield wiper fluid reservoir on my 95 honda accord ex!?!?!?
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    On most Accords you don't really see the tank itself, only a large clear tube coming up with a blue cap on it. It should have a windshield symbol on the cap.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    elroy has it right.

    If you are standing there with the hood open, the reservoir is closest to the front of the car, on the right (driver's) side.

    Happy Hondaing, and welcome to Edmunds.
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    I think you need to go to the dealer that is not trying to sell you all these "fixes." That way, you can better find out what really needs to be done.
  • Thanks [elroy5] for your advice, you don't know how much I appreciate this. I got my answer for the PS fluid flush ( or whatever the heck the dealer wants to call it and charge $120). I checked it this morning, and it lookes a bit low, so I'll add some more fluid and leave it alone. I could not find anything in my owner manual regarding this maintenance, so that explains it.
  • I agree with you [blufz1], but it is hard to find a dealer that will only diagnose the problem and don't give you a laundry list of what your car needs. I thinks someoine replied saying that a rear main seal leak on an 02 Accord is rare, so it is interesting to hear other people's opinion. It will help me make a better decision.
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    Hey,guys,. Has anyone got a neat front license plate bracket that does not require drilling into the front bumper with a mounting screw?? Thanks!
  • ivicaivica Posts: 34
    Finally after almost 10 years and 255,000 kms my muffler has started to go. In Canada I priced the following
    1. muffler man and they want $370 for parts and labor including gaskets
    2. Honda dealer wants $303 parts + $87 labor + gaskets + taxes = $505 dollars.

    I priced a muffler on line at Majestic Honda and their price is $158 + shipping and handling. Then I need to install it.

    Has anyone purchase a muffler from Majestic Honda? Are they stainless steel like the OEM parts?

    Any responses would be appreciated.

  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Yes, I would definitely get the one from Majestic. It will be a Honda muffler, and will bolt right up. Aftermarket mufflers can be tuned differently from the factory muffler, sound bad, and fail quickly. I found that out the hard way with my 92 Accord.
  • ivicaivica Posts: 34
    Thanks Elroy. I will probably buy the muffler from Majestic and pay a muffler shop to install it. I don't have a torch at home to cut the old bolts/clamps off.

  • Better give the whole system a close look to make sure you don't need other pipes. You can give them the crush test with hose clamps to see if they are rotten on the inside. Otherwise, they'll cut your old muffler off only to find out perhaps that you need more---and then you're stuck, you'd have to buy from them.
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