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Honda Accord (2003-2007) Maintenance and Repair

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  • tallman1tallman1 Posts: 1,874
    Yes, those filters can be a challenge. Good job. The next time will be easier. :)
  • jefflaw977jefflaw977 Posts: 2
    edited August 2012
    I need some opinions on what to do.. My 2003 Honda Accord's transmission has died. I went to the local honda dealership in an attempt to find out what it would cost to fix and as I expected, the repairs are going to add up.. I did some research on 2003 transmission and I've come to the conclusion that the Honda Accord 2003 transmission is riddled w/ problems..

    In any event, here is what I was quoted by my local Honda Dealership..

    Remanufactured Transmission: $4200 - However they'll do it for $2750 (based on my mileage)

    Since I am at 96k, if i decide to keep the car and fix the transmission, I figured i'd put in a new timing belt, drive belts, water pump and coolant.. This I was quoted for $750

    Then, 2 other codes came up that need to be addressed..

    1) Idle Air Control - Quoted $618.00
    2) ABS tranction Control - Quoted $1179.00

    So without tax, and nor any haggling over price- I am at $5300.00 for a 9 year old car...

    The last 2 items, (idle air control, and ABS) i am not sure need to need to be fixed as they said something about "clearing out the code"

    In any event, the bottom line is that I'd like someone's suggestion as to what to do? Do i keep this car? I really wanted to drive for the foreseeable future.

    I did take it to another mechanic who can do this stuff for some what less.. But again, I am torn..

    Any suggestions?
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,447
    put in a used transmission - much cheaper. Some even come with warranties.

    You might also find a shop that can repair it. What is it doing? Does the car drive at all?

    I am guessing this is an automatic. The manual was/is bullet proof, and would not be so expensive to repair.

    Would you pay $5k for a used one in the same same condition as yours. If the answer is yes you may as well fix it.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,018
    I'd probably fix it. I don't think it's going to cost as much as all that to square the car away, especially if you shop around. The ABS business could be nothing more than a defective wheel sensor.

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  • sockpuppet1969sockpuppet1969 Posts: 293
    edited September 2012
    4 cylinder EX-L MT with almost 150K miles on the original clutch. How long have others gone before having to put in a new one? Has anyone done it themselves? How hard is it? Any special tools needed?

    Thanks in advance.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,018
    It'd be a tough job without a lift and a transaxle jack. Book says a professional mechanic can do it in 6 hours.

    Special Tools Required
    Clutch alignment shaft 07LAF-PT00110
    Clutch alignment disc 07JAF-PM7011A
    Remover handle 07936-3710100
    Ring gear holder 07LAB-PV00100 or 07924-PD20003

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  • How do you get the paint to shine where fuel spilled on it. I can't seem to get the tank filled without it spilling occasionally. Where the fuel spilled the paint looks dull. Any suggestions??? I washed it with car wash, dried it off and tried some ICE synthetic wax but it still looks very dull. :sick: :sick:
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,018
    that's the clear coat, so I hesitate to recommend wet-sanding. Probably a good buffer would do it, if you take your time and don't bear down on it. Once you cut through the clear coat, that's it---no remedy for that but a repaint.

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  • biomanbioman Posts: 172
    Just curious if any owners of 03-07 generation Accord V6's has had a leak in the PS hoses per the up and coming recall. I received an email from my dealer informing me of the upcoming recall. I checked out the PS hose in question and so far, so good.
  • ktnrktnr Posts: 255
    edited October 2012
    2005 LX-V6 at 112K and my P/S hoses are dirty, greasy and swollen in places. No significant leaking but the poor condition of the hoses makes them appear to be needing replacement.

    I just got my car back from my dealer today (completely screwed-up A/C repair that I have a new case with Honda about) and they noted the leaky hoses but recommended new Power Steering Pump seals for $480! No mention of the recall from them of course and what do leaky hoses have to do with new seals?
  • ktnrktnr Posts: 255
    Turns out my Power Steering symtoms (noise when cold) is fully described in Honda Service Bulletin 07-086 which notes that a single poorly designed O-ring is at fault. Repair involves installing new, thicker O-ring at 0.3 hours labor. I can do this simple repair myself in ten minutes for under $2 for the O-ring.

    I'm outraged that the Honda dealter wanted to charge me $480! Hugely dishonest. I'll report back on what Honda NA says about the shoddy repair work and attempts to make fraudulent charges.

    If you're in downtown Atlanta, watch your dealer service VERY closely or they'll attempt to rob you blind.
  • ktnrktnr Posts: 255
    Honda got back to me. I had faxed them Denso’s warranty on their compressors (requires system purging and dryer replacement or the warranty is immediately void) along with industry articles describing the importance of thoroughly cleaning A/C systems to avoid contaminating a new compressor. I faxed them a copy of the Honda Service Bulletin showing the easy and very inexpensive alternative to the dealer’s suggested $480 power steering pump rebuild to cure a minor noise issue. I explained how the Service Advisor switched from protesting AGAINST additional work that would be wise (but would have required him to come in on his day off OR split his commission with someone else) to pushing unnecessary and over-priced work the next day (once he was resigned to protecting his commission by coming in on his day off, the Service Advisor wanted to make it damned worth his while). I explained how the dealer tried to charge me 8.976111 shop hours (a plugged number they made up) before they backed off their “mistake” and cut the labor charge by 40%.

    Bottom line: Honda said repairing a contaminated A/C system just by replacing one part at a time was “proper”. The attempted over-charges and commission wrangling are solely between me and the dealership. Honda suggested I contact the dealership Service Manager again to see if he can explain what they had previously refused to explain. In a word, Honda offered me NOTHING.

    If you’re looking for Honda dealer service in downtown Atlanta, you’d be wise to go far North (Woodstock, Georgia) or far South (Morrow, Georgia) instead. Even then, ask in advance to insure that your Service Advisor will be working the next day too in case your car needs to stay overnight. If anyone quotes you a price over the phone, get their full name to avoid hassles over service prices and commissions. Better yet, find a small, local shop who works off their reputation and repeat customers.
  • By golly ... 59.95 is a downright steal for a 15 dollar filter and 3 minutes work. My Honda dealer wants 99.95.. Those service writers are salesman on a commission.
  • ktnrktnr Posts: 255
    I used to think that owners were Honda's customers and dealers were just a necessary evil. I'm thinking now that it's the other way around. Auto dealers and their lobbyists are where the money and the power is. The people who drive the products are just an unpleasant annoyance for the manufacturer; always complaining about things that blow up or catch fire or fail to work safely.
  • mr_gonemr_gone Posts: 50
    I have had nothing but good experiences with my Honda dealers in the Twin Cities.
  • ktnrktnr Posts: 255
    edited October 2012
    Before the economic crisis in 2008, it seemed to me that Honda was holding the feet of it's franchised dealers to the fire. Honda wanted to ensure that every customer was treated well by dealers they kept on a short leash. It's a different world today where not only Honda but even Acura is challenged by the Korean competition. Honda seems to have backed off their pro-consumer stance and is now willing to allow it's dealers far more latitude in finding ways to lighten the customer's pockets. A "Honda" sign on the building no longer means that you can reasonably trust the people working there. If your Honda dealership's service department happens to be honest, then I'm happy for you. It's not that way though because Honda insists.

    Then again, what about all the premature transmission and A/C compressor failures in the last decade? Honda behaved in a very stubborn and cost-conscious way in handling the design and manufacturing mistakes that cost Honda drivers a LOT of money. I had my doubts then but now my bubble is fully burst - Honda isn't any better than any other large auto-manufacturer. Shame that.
  • WHy should Honda dealers be any different than others? The service department is the profit center. Your service writer is basically a salesman. I waited for my warranty to run out and then took my car to a neighborhood repair shop. No issues here. When you put a company or a person on a pedestal they are bound to fall off. Now everyone loves Hundai. How much of the Sonata is made by Honda? Its all global. Buyer beware. Second car is a 96 Subaru. Never had one problem. Never will. My 2007 Honda had brake issues. Took it to dealership after rotors went at 5,000 miles and brakes at 10. They jerked me around telling me I didnt know how to drive and said Honda would not pay. I am 58. Took my car to my repair shop , Had them yank out the whole brake system and put in a new one at a cost of 1,000. I dont have time for dealerships and their games. Will never buy a new car again.
  • Have dual A/C. The drivers side blows hot while the passenger side is fine. The car has 136,000 miles so i do not want to put big money in it. What could be the problem and any idea of cost to repair...Thanks in advance.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,018
    Sounds like a stuck blend door (diverter door) or broken actuator that works said door. Might not be a big fix IF...IF...you can get at it without tearing the car apart.

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  • I have 07 I4 SE Auto and about a month ago, 'Check Fuel Cap' message appears while i was driving.
    Pull over the car, stop engine and to recap, and message is gone right away.

    Ever since then, with same driving condition and the fuel consumption becomes worse: about 4 miles less per gallon.

    Car is out of the warranty, anyone experience such problem?

    I know the rule about fuel cap: click at least 3 times (i done 4) after refuel.

    Thank you,
  • Mr. Shiftright is correct. My 2003 Accord EXL 4cyl does the same thing from time to time. Here is how I fix it:

    1. Turn the climate control to AUTO (make sure DUAL is off).
    2. Turn the temperature all the way down then all the way up and then set to your desired temp.

    So far this has worked every time the door has stuck for me (usually in the middle of the summer!). My car has almost 150K miles and I have no plans to get rid of it anytime soon. If this problem became permanent and was cost prohibitive to repair, my eyes might start wandering though...
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    It seems that because you bought a Honda, you don't expect anything to ever go wrong with it. And if anything does, you expect the dealership to fix it free of charge. Honda, just like other car companies, is in business to make money. I bought my first Accord (92) back in 91. The few times I did have a problem the local dealership was terrible, at even finding the cause, much less fixing it in a timely manner. The lazyness of the mechanics at the dealership convinced me to buy a Honda factory service manual, and do all the maintenance and repairs myself, if possible. I spent about $1200 on repairs during the 12 years and 140k miles I had the car ($500 of that at the dealership). Not bad IMO. So, when I decided to buy a new car, it was going to be another Accord. I bought the 2003 Accord (V6) over 10 years ago, and have yet to spend $1000 on repairs at this point ($600 of that at the dealership). My point is, the service at the dealership hasn't been any worse than it was 20 years ago, and the car hasn't been any less reliable. The 03 Accord has been just as good, or better, than the 92 was. I've learned a lot about how these cars work, and I'm saving myself a lot of moola. The Honda (helm) service manuals are easy to understand, and very detailed, unlike the Toyota service manual I bought for my truck, which I guess you had to be an ASE certified tech to understand. So I haven't blamed the car, for the incompetence at the dealership. The cars are great, if you can avoid the dealerships.
  • Did you ever get a solution to your console light problem ? I recently repaired the Radio/HVAC display issue (resistor in the radio) and everything was fine for about a week. One day all the console buttons, as you described, no longer light up with the dash lights. Also, the Radio/HVAC lcd display no longer dims when the headlights are on.
  • I had the lights on the radio and the climate control go out one night. No hint to a problem, just OUT one night. I watched a YouTube video on a fuse on the circuit board of the radio being the issue. I followed the video precisely and easily made the fix. It took me ten minutes to remove the radio and a very slim soldering iron to repair it. I snipped the fuse with a pair of needle nose pliers and then soldered a bridge over the two contacts with just a piece of solder. The hardest part was getting to the actual contact to solder it. It has been a couple of months and to date is working perfectly. My local (in town) Honda dealer acknowledged the "common problem" but said they would not cover it because of the age of the car (2003) even with the low mileage (40,000 miles). If you are handy it will help. Just search YouTube to find the repair video and give it a shot. There were no parts needed, just a little patience and about half an hour removing and replacing the radio. Good luck.
  • wise1wise1 Posts: 90
    It finally died, 1.5 months short of 6 years. I read previous posts about using a battery for the v-6 in 4-cyl models accords. My question is, has anyone bought a battery for their 4-cyc accord using the 35 series in the past 6-8 months and what CCA and CA does it have and does it crank immediately or is it taking a lot of time to crank? This is about a 2007, SE 41--- miles. I called Honda in my area and the v-6 battery they offer for about $90.00 has only 460 cca which is way too little for my liking!! We have in my area Advanced Auto, Autozone, and O'Rilley's. And of course wal-Mart. Any suggestions???? :)
  • wise1wise1 Posts: 90
    I replaced my battery today and now need to know the procedure for entering the radio code. I have the code that was written in my owners manual at the dealership the day I bought it. I tried cranking it up turning on the radio which said CODE and tried to put in the 5 numbers but it would just spell the word CODE and ERR1. It would not register any numbers. Any one know the correct procedure??? The owners manual doesn't say anything about the procedure. :confuse: :confuse: The glove box does NOT have any numbers printed in it.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,018
    Try this

    Disconnect battery cable for 2 minutes. (because you have tried too many times to enter the code)

    Turn key to "accessories"
    Press radio power to on
    CODE appears

    Then wait for a BEEP

    Then enter your code with the presets

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  • finzzfinzz Posts: 40
    Had the exact same problem with our '06 accord and brought it to a shop to diagnose Was advised that it was simply low freon. They charged the system and we haven't had a problem since. Easy fix: buy a can at Walmart and give it a shot - you might get lucky.

    Good luck
  • On my 2005 Honda Accord all of the LEDs on the door panels and the steering wheel are going dim. The steering wheel itself is the worse and are nearly gone out. Been looking on youtube for answers but no help there so far.
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