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Honda Accord (2003-2007) Maintenance and Repair

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  • I think people buy Hondas for "peace of mind" but realistically, that's very hard to buy in any area of life.

    But you can't argue with the success of the Accord. I mean, GEEZ, has there ever been a more successful Japanese car? Corolla, maybe, but it's in a different price class where price was a strong factor.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,407
    My brother has a G-20 and it has its share of problems. Most notably the gear shift will pop out of 5th while driving on the highway. Know issue for the stick version.

    The car has over 300,000 miles on it now, so it has been reliable overall.

    I expect my Accord to go just as far. Nearly at 100k now after 3.5 years. I'll give it to one of my boys when it gets about 200k and he can drive it for another 100k miles.
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    Not a bad plan, especially insurance wise, at that point one can put the minimal amount of insurance on the car if one chooses.
  • chucko3chucko3 Posts: 793
    My 03EXV6 is 8 years old with 91K miles.
    Will wait another 5K miles or 4 more months.
  • just bought a used '03 accord EX... everything on the dash cluster comes on EXCEPT for the "D" gear indicator. how do i fix this?
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    everything on the dash cluster comes on EXCEPT for the "D" gear indicator. how do i fix this?

    This could be a lot of things (shift position switch, MICU, ECU, wiring). You could get trouble codes from the MICU (Multiplex Integrated Control Unit), which is part of the under-dash fuse box, but it's a pretty complicated procedure. Got a Helm shop manual? If the "Check Engine" light is not on, the ECU (engine/transmission computer), you probably wouldn't get any codes with a scanner.

    Are there any other problems associated with the "D" light? Transmission shifting funny?
  • My 2003 Accord sedan (V-6) is almost 8 years old but has only 42,000 miles of use. It has beem maintained by the book and is in excellent condition. Recently my mechanic recommended I change the timing belt (plus water pump, tensioner, etc. that goes with the package). While Toyota recommends this service at 105,000 miles, the mechanic says that the age of the belt makes the work necessary.

    Any thoughts on this? Also, does this engine (V-6) suffer other damage if the belt breaks?
  • buyahomebuyahome Posts: 26
    edited November 2010
    Carlupi,

    I have a similar question. My 2003 Honda Accord has less than 15,000 (yes 15,000) miles on it. It was always garaged, has been very well taken care of and is a V-6.

    I was told by several people that I should replace the timing belt NOW as opposed to waiting...(based on age alone). I heard there could be severe engine damage if the belt lets go. The rubber gaskets, the paint, the vinyl moldings are all in incredibly nice shape. Could it be the timing belt rots with AGE that much? Anyone out there that would take a chance and drive it for another year or two? I plan to drive it less than 12,000/year from this point on.
  • Most probably will total the engine when your timing belt breaks.. Is it worth taking the chance? Too bad , the 4 cylinder has a chain.. I would change the belt in a New York minute in order to give me piece of mind. Who knows how the quality of those belts are in the first place. * years is a long time... I have the same problem with my subaru but unlike the Honda if the belt breaks the engine just stops, no damage..

    The problem is You have been told by many to change the belt and you now have that in the back of your mind.. Do you wait till 20,000? No answer.. Not worth the worry.. Change it .. You should own the car and not the car owning you
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    They aren't trying to cheat you. If you check an owner's manual (if like the '96 and '02 Accords in my driveway) it'll tell you to do it at 105k miles - 90k for my '96 - or 7 years, whichever comes first. If that belt goes, you might as well buy a new car because it won't be pretty.

    Shop prices on a belt and water-pump, they can vary wildly with reputable shops. My normal shop wanted $720 to do the job. My dealer? $850. The mechanic who worked on my car after an accident charged $400 plus the price of the water-pump. I went there, spent $478. This was two years and 30k miles ago, so figure $600-$700 a good price, maybe a bit higher for your V6.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    edited November 2010
    I also have an 03 V6, and it has 82k miles on it right now. I haven't changed the timing belt yet. I took the front timing cover off (easy to do) and inspected the belt. It looked pretty good compared to the new belt I bought last month. I will probably change it over the Christmas holidays, when I have more time. The interval for timing belt change is 105k miles, or 7 years. I inspected the belt because you never know if a seal or gasket has leaked oil or coolant onto the belt shortening it's life. If you do put off changing the timing belt, listen to the engine periodically. If you hear noises coming from under the timing covers, don't hesitate to get it checked out. Personally, I think the belt could last a few more years, but I'm not going to be the one to tell you to wait, even though I am waiting a few months.

    PS: Yes, if the timing belt breaks, it will do major damage to the engine.
  • chucko3chucko3 Posts: 793
    Mine is also 03EXV6 with 91K miles and 8 yrs + 5 days old.
    Coolant & oil still not leaking or burning. Knock on woods.
    Dealer said the timing belt is due to time.
    I thought of postponing it for a few more months, but with the winter is coming the last thing I want is to be stranded on the highway with a snowstorm.
    Not worth the risk. Will do it after Thnaskgiving.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Unless you take one of the timing belt covers off, and inspect the belt, you will not know if one of the seals/gaskets has leaked on the belt. A pulley bearing will usually make plenty of noise, before it goes out completely, but a coolant/oil soaked belt may not make a sound, until it slips or breaks. If you are going to wait, I would suggest inspecting the belt for wear and coolant/oil contamination.

    I hang around on 4 or 5 different Accord forums, and I have yet to hear of one J30 (7th gen Accord V6) engine with a timing belt failure. That tells me these engines aren't prone to timing belt failures.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,407
    Never had any belt of any kid fail on any car I have owned, and have never heard of one failing either. I do change the timing belt on my cars because I can't see them, but the other belts go 200,000 miles or more over 10 or 15 years without breaking. And I inspect them when I change the oil.

    I did change a regular belt once on my 1980 Scirocco, because it was a little frayed, but it was nowhere near breaking.
  • no nothing is wrong with the transmission, the car runs great. just earlier, i did notice that the "D" indicator does come on when the key is turned to on position....(when all the warning lights show and then dissapears). it will come on for a few seconds. when the engine has turned over and running, that's when it fails to light up. .
  • Just to be clear about this belt/water pump issue...

    The need for replacement at 90k/7 yrs. applies only to V6 engines, correct? I have never heard of a similar chain replacement recommendation for the 4 cylinder, and I'm definitely not looking forward to such an expensive job with my 2006 I4.

    Chains have been known to fail as well (I once owned a Chrysler K car where it happened) but I haven't heard of any such problems with Accords. Is it not reasonable to expect to drive the car for 10 yrs or more (or say 100k miles) without any such problems?
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Timing chains started being used in the K-series of engines for 2003-current (2.4L I4 models). The 2.2L and 2.3L I'm talking about in the '96 and '02 had belts.
  • I didn't know about the change from belts to chains. Thanks for the info.

    So, the bottom line on gen7/I4's is that the track record is a short one. I put my trust in the Accord power train when I purchased the car, and I've never doubted my judgment. I don't expect any rude surprises, but you never know for sure, I suppose.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Some chains do go bad. I had to change the chain on my truck twice, but the chain was not the problem, it was the tensioner. I haven't heard of any chains, or tensioners going bad on the 4 cylinder Accord engines, so that should be one less worry for you.
  • gordy6gordy6 Posts: 14
    I have a 2004 Honda Accord EX V6 and controller for both the outside power mirrors is no longer working. I reviewed the list of fuses in the owners manual as well as under the cover on both the interior and under hood fuse boxes. However, it doesn't tell me which one is for the mirrors. Does anyone know which fuse I should check?

    Thanks in advance for your assistance.
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